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post Nov 21 2009, 06:17 PM
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post Nov 21 2009, 10:01 PM
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post Nov 21 2009, 10:24 PM
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good job Whitesnake, you hit a good phrase that works with the backing,


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post Nov 22 2009, 10:31 AM
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QUOTE (Daniel Realpe @ Nov 21 2009, 10:24 PM) *
good job Whitesnake, you hit a good phrase that works with the backing,

Thank you man,i hope i can do better in future.
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post Nov 23 2009, 11:16 AM
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whitesnake:

Rhythm: Very nice rhythmical phrase to start your solo with, I think the main phrase you chose is a very good one, and accents the rhythm of the backing quite nicely. However, in terms of rhythm, there were hardly any development at all. All the rhythmical phrases that you used were almost the same, and besides one 16 note sequence phrase towards the end, all the phrases were pretty uniform in terms of note duration content. This can be a problem sometimes, because even in the melody is different, when the listener hears something repeated with the same rhythm several times, that same listener will tend to percieve it as the same thing.
Phrasing: your main theme here was excellent, and you did a call & responce approach, with several pairs of them lasting 2 bars or even 4 bars in the second part. The way you built your melodies was quite good, but I would say it was again a bit uniform, because of the frequent root landings in the end of the "response" phrases. Remember that landing note is very important, and even if you have different melodies all together, listener will tend to remember the last note most, so if you play lots of phrases differently, and land them on the same note, they will all tend to sound similar.
Technique: Good playing in general. Judging from what I heard here, I think you can possibly work more on your bending technique to make it more precise, and to get a good tone while bending. Also, some more work with the picking hand is needed, so you can play those 16th note sequences on the same comfort level as the rest of the take, which is very important because of the tone.
Sound: Sound was pretty good, nice smooth round tone, but with more spacial effects than needed. Try to lower down the reverb level, and cut the tail down short, because it is really not needed. Reverb shouldn't even be audible that much in the mix.

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Rhythm: Good slow-paced rhythmical phrases, mostly constructed out of quarter/eight note combinations. I like the way the rhyhtmical phrases are scattered, but I can suggest the use of some other note durations as well to escape uniformity. Learning only one 16th note passage, and using pauses can really help here, cause there are many ways to combine these simple elements to form even more interesting rhythmical structure. My advice is - focus on at least one 16 note passage.
Phrasing: Very good phrases, nicely played, and nicely developed. Your scale knowledge has improved. The areas where I think there could be more improvement are horizontal movements on the neck (bridgin positions together), and also, arpeggios. Arpeggios playing will help greatly to understand how to properly finish the phrases (on what notes to land)
Technique: Very nicely played take, with slight problems regarding bending technique. Bending should be more stronger and in pitch, so I advise more work on that.
Sound: The sound was very good and round, and I liked it. What I think could be better is the reverb. It is too long and it is making the sound a bit muddy. Reverb should be very light and very discrete.


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post Nov 23 2009, 03:20 PM
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QUOTE (Ivan Milenkovic @ Nov 23 2009, 11:16 AM) *
whitesnake:Thanks Ivan, i have a lot to learn,but i am happy i made my first,thnks for good teaching.

Rhythm: Very nice rhythmical phrase to start your solo with, I think the main phrase you chose is a very good one, and accents the rhythm of the backing quite nicely. However, in terms of rhythm, there were hardly any development at all. All the rhythmical phrases that you used were almost the same, and besides one 16 note sequence phrase towards the end, all the phrases were pretty uniform in terms of note duration content. This can be a problem sometimes, because even in the melody is different, when the listener hears something repeated with the same rhythm several times, that same listener will tend to percieve it as the same thing.
Phrasing: your main theme here was excellent, and you did a call & responce approach, with several pairs of them lasting 2 bars or even 4 bars in the second part. The way you built your melodies was quite good, but I would say it was again a bit uniform, because of the frequent root landings in the end of the "response" phrases. Remember that landing note is very important, and even if you have different melodies all together, listener will tend to remember the last note most, so if you play lots of phrases differently, and land them on the same note, they will all tend to sound similar.
Technique: Good playing in general. Judging from what I heard here, I think you can possibly work more on your bending technique to make it more precise, and to get a good tone while bending. Also, some more work with the picking hand is needed, so you can play those 16th note sequences on the same comfort level as the rest of the take, which is very important because of the tone.
Sound: Sound was pretty good, nice smooth round tone, but with more spacial effects than needed. Try to lower down the reverb level, and cut the tail down short, because it is really not needed. Reverb shouldn't even be audible that much in the mix.

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Rhythm: Good slow-paced rhythmical phrases, mostly constructed out of quarter/eight note combinations. I like the way the rhyhtmical phrases are scattered, but I can suggest the use of some other note durations as well to escape uniformity. Learning only one 16th note passage, and using pauses can really help here, cause there are many ways to combine these simple elements to form even more interesting rhythmical structure. My advice is - focus on at least one 16 note passage.
Phrasing: Very good phrases, nicely played, and nicely developed. Your scale knowledge has improved. The areas where I think there could be more improvement are horizontal movements on the neck (bridgin positions together), and also, arpeggios. Arpeggios playing will help greatly to understand how to properly finish the phrases (on what notes to land)
Technique: Very nicely played take, with slight problems regarding bending technique. Bending should be more stronger and in pitch, so I advise more work on that.
Sound: The sound was very good and round, and I liked it. What I think could be better is the reverb. It is too long and it is making the sound a bit muddy. Reverb should be very light and very discrete.

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post Nov 23 2009, 11:56 PM
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Kaznie

Rhythm: Great rhythmical figures throughout the solo. I think your solo can be divided rhythmically in 3 main sections. In the first one, there were lots of 16th notes, in the second section, you slowed down a bit, and inserted longer pauses, although 16th note sequencing is present here in short bursts. The last ending section has longer notes. In general I think this kind of a structure is very good, but I would try a bit more reversed approach so that the shorter note durations are positioned more towards the end of the solo, and in the beginning there is a nice slow leading into the story.
Phrasing: Great main theme that is nicely developed all the way to the end of the take. I think you utilized the minor scale excellent here, and really nailed the ending properly on the root. What I think could be better are some landing notes in some phrases, that didn't quite had the proper function. In some places you bended the note and that bended note was not the strong note so it gave an impression of unfinished thought. What I suggest is to try to learn the bended notes as well as fretting notes, so you can use them better.
Technique: Great use of legato techniques, and picking is good as well. There are some problems with string noise, and some of the bends could be more precise. The last bend could be better controlled.
Sound: You had a good idea for the sound, but too much overdrive made it a bit buzzy and undefined. For a lot smoother preset, try to lower down the gain a lot, and EQ the signal a bit so you remove the harsh top end sizzle. Space effects could be lowered down a bit as well.


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post Nov 24 2009, 03:17 PM
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QUOTE (Ivan Milenkovic @ Nov 23 2009, 11:56 PM) *
Kaznie

Rhythm: Great rhythmical figures throughout the solo. I think your solo can be divided rhythmically in 3 main sections. In the first one, there were lots of 16th notes, in the second section, you slowed down a bit, and inserted longer pauses, although 16th note sequencing is present here in short bursts. The last ending section has longer notes. In general I think this kind of a structure is very good, but I would try a bit more reversed approach so that the shorter note durations are positioned more towards the end of the solo, and in the beginning there is a nice slow leading into the story.
Phrasing: Great main theme that is nicely developed all the way to the end of the take. I think you utilized the minor scale excellent here, and really nailed the ending properly on the root. What I think could be better are some landing notes in some phrases, that didn't quite had the proper function. In some places you bended the note and that bended note was not the strong note so it gave an impression of unfinished thought. What I suggest is to try to learn the bended notes as well as fretting notes, so you can use them better.
Technique: Great use of legato techniques, and picking is good as well. There are some problems with string noise, and some of the bends could be more precise. The last bend could be better controlled.
Sound: You had a good idea for the sound, but too much overdrive made it a bit buzzy and undefined. For a lot smoother preset, try to lower down the gain a lot, and EQ the signal a bit so you remove the harsh top end sizzle. Space effects could be lowered down a bit as well.

Thanks man! Phrasing needs work, always tongue.gif


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post Nov 24 2009, 04:28 PM
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Kaznie maybe a little less distortion for this type of solos?


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post Nov 24 2009, 09:38 PM
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QUOTE (Daniel Realpe @ Nov 24 2009, 04:28 PM) *
Kaznie maybe a little less distortion for this type of solos?

Yeah indeed biggrin.gif


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As usual im in the 11'th hour..... I still haven't got my steel-string back from my friend, otherwise this guitar would be a perfect choice for this nice backing! :-)

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QUOTE (Staffy @ Nov 25 2009, 11:58 PM) *
As usual im in the 11'th hour..... I still haven't got my steel-string back from my friend, otherwise this guitar would be a perfect choice for this nice backing! :-)

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very nice take! you nailed the latin feel! with some rock licks at the end, good!


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QUOTE (Toroso @ Nov 24 2009, 09:38 PM) *
Thanks Ivan! smile.gif

No problem man, glad to see you on this collab! Great playing! smile.gif

QUOTE (kaznie_NL @ Nov 24 2009, 09:45 PM) *
Yeah indeed biggrin.gif

Some less would be nice, yes wink.gif


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A message for all the collabs I'm in...I've been having quite a few problems and will try to post all my takes tomorrow...I was going to post some takes sooner but the GMC Forum modifications made me take care of other subjects first, if it's not possible to receive one more day to make the collab, I'm sorry for taking someone's place smile.gif

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Staffy:


Rhythm: Very good rhythmical phrases with notes that are nicely defined and on proper places. There is some sense of repetition with pairs of 16th notes that have pauses between them, but I think everything is fitted nicely. One thing that I noticed is that although passages have a good flow to them, there are some places where timing is a bit loose. I think a bit more precise picking would be very good. The first part of the solo was good in timing, but the second one a bit more loosier..
Phrasing: Great accurate phrasing techniques are displayed in this solo. I like the way you accented important notes and the way you used intervals and arpeggios to build your improvisation. Great sounding. The thing that I noticed as a listener is that some phrases were a bit glued into one another, specially the last arpeggios, although the faster legato line in the second part was a great pinnacle of the solo. So structurally, I can recommend a bit more fluidity in the way you form phrases, to make them a bit more natural in a way.
Technique: Great fluid playing, everything was on the spot, and I think the only thing I can recommend really, is to be careful when picking, so that the notes come tight in a bar where needed. This is specially important in the last part.
Sound: Great smooth tone that accents the dynamics quite nicely, and very well blended with the backing. Excellent work. Minor suggestion on the small amount of hum noise present in the beginning.


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QUOTE (Ivan Milenkovic @ Dec 4 2009, 01:16 AM) *
Staffy:


Rhythm: Very good rhythmical phrases with notes that are nicely defined and on proper places. There is some sense of repetition with pairs of 16th notes that have pauses between them, but I think everything is fitted nicely. One thing that I noticed is that although passages have a good flow to them, there are some places where timing is a bit loose. I think a bit more precise picking would be very good. The first part of the solo was good in timing, but the second one a bit more loosier..
Phrasing: Great accurate phrasing techniques are displayed in this solo. I like the way you accented important notes and the way you used intervals and arpeggios to build your improvisation. Great sounding. The thing that I noticed as a listener is that some phrases were a bit glued into one another, specially the last arpeggios, although the faster legato line in the second part was a great pinnacle of the solo. So structurally, I can recommend a bit more fluidity in the way you form phrases, to make them a bit more natural in a way.
Technique: Great fluid playing, everything was on the spot, and I think the only thing I can recommend really, is to be careful when picking, so that the notes come tight in a bar where needed. This is specially important in the last part.
Sound: Great smooth tone that accents the dynamics quite nicely, and very well blended with the backing. Excellent work. Minor suggestion on the small amount of hum noise present in the beginning.


Thx. Ivan ! as usual I know exactly what You mean... biggrin.gif But the timing is what we are working on, isn't it??? tongue.gif
Great collab, I just love latin music!

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post Dec 7 2009, 11:02 PM
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QUOTE (Staffy @ Dec 4 2009, 10:21 PM) *
Thx. Ivan ! as usual I know exactly what You mean... biggrin.gif But the timing is what we are working on, isn't it??? tongue.gif
Great collab, I just love latin music!

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It was excellent work Staffay, thanks a lot for participating in this collab. I think you have pretty good timing, but here the comment was focused on this take.


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