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post Nov 14 2009, 01:54 PM
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QUOTE (Pedja Simovic @ Nov 14 2009, 01:39 PM) *
Ok Roman lets work this out.

Lets say we have any major scale right? The purpose of major scale as it has 7 different letter names and notes. It is impossible to have G# and G or G and Gb or G# and Gb in the same scale. Same goes for any other letter name. We simply can't repeat same letters twice unless its an octave (root of the scale where we start and end the scale).

Now lets look at C major scale

C D E F G A B C
Its all the different letter names right?
The distance between the notes is W W H W W W H step correct? C to D whole step, D to E whole step, E to F half step, F to G whole step, G to A whole step, A to B whole step and B to C is half step!
C is I, D is II , E is III, F is IV , G is V , A is VI , B is VII and C is VIII. Those are our scale degrees.
In my theory and harmony board I harmonized the scale and explained why the chords appear on what scale degree and what is their function. In short we have Major chords on scale degree I IV and V, minor II III VI and VII diminished. 4 part chords are Maj7th on I and IV , Dom7 on V , Min7th on II III and VI and Min7b5 on VII.

Now back to the original question. If C min is III what is II ?
What is the distance between II and III scale degree? Look at the original C major scale and tell me what is the distance between E and D notes backwards ? You should work your way around with C minor as III bringing us down to what II?

Let me know if this helps.


Well the distance between II and III is a whole step. So between E and D we have D#/Eb. and when C is on III and i go back a whole step i am on Bb. Is this correct?


by the way here ist the second video:




I will come back later and correct question 9.

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post Nov 14 2009, 04:15 PM
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Hey Pedja,

I am back from the swimming contest.

To sum it up here are my Corrections

7) It's E Minor
8) It's Bb Minor
9) It's C Major


so now it should be correct


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post Nov 14 2009, 05:12 PM
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Excellent work with both assignments Roman! I will try to post your next assignment by tomorrow. Stay tuned!


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post Nov 15 2009, 03:28 PM
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Roman here is your 3rd assignment for this month.

Assignment 3 :

- Record Cycle 4 and 5 for Dorian mode.
- Tempo of your choice and do it one octave ascending and descending.
- Use Minor 6 or Minor 7 chord in the background for each key (for example D Dorian = D min6 or D min7, G Dorian = G min6 min7 etc)

Deadline for this assignment is 21st of November.


Let me know if you got any questions!

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post Nov 21 2009, 02:13 PM
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Hey pedja,

please check this gp5 file if i did it right for Cycle 4.

Attached File  Cycle_4_DorianMode.gp5 ( 2.88K ) Number of downloads: 37


What do you mean by:

Use Minor 6 or Minor 7 chord in the background for each key (for example D Dorian = D min6 or D min7, G Dorian = G min6 min7 etc.

Should i record two takes?. One take with the Cycle 4 octave ascending and descending and a backing with this chords??

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It is looking good Roman just couple of tips.

Last chord should be Cb not B. Also each chord should have Min7 or Min6 chord since the mode is Dorian which is minor based mode.

I want you to record C min7 for 2 bars then F min7 for 2 bars, Bb min 7 etc and have that as backing track while you play those modes ascending and descending using one octave.
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post Nov 21 2009, 04:16 PM
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Hey Pedja,

Cb how does the chord look like? I can't find the note Cb on the fretboard nor on the piano. The other chords are no problem

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QUOTE (edguy @ Nov 21 2009, 04:16 PM) *
Hey Pedja,

Cb ho does the chord look like? I can't find the note Cb on the fretboard nor on the piano. The other chords are no problem


Hey Roman,

Cb = B
It is just another way of saying the same thing. So if you know where your B note is on the fretboard then you are all set as that note in theory in special circumstances (like going through cycle 4 in this case) we call it Cb instead of B smile.gif

So B minor7 = Cb minor7

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post Nov 21 2009, 04:21 PM
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ok that's fine biggrin.gif


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post Nov 21 2009, 04:58 PM
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Hey Pedja,

here i recorded Cycle 4 only as an Mp3. Hope this is ok.

Attached File  Cycle4_Dorian_Mode.mp3 ( 684.44K ) Number of downloads: 90


tomorrow i try to record Cycle 5 (maybe with video again)

cheers Roman

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Great work Roman!
You can record chords with some less active rhythm maybe whole notes or half notes. You don't have to strum them on every single click smile.gif


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post Nov 22 2009, 03:53 PM
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Hey Pedja,

is my gp5 file for cycle 5 correct?

Attached File  Cycle_5_DorianMode.gp5 ( 4.16K ) Number of downloads: 37


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The notes are all correct !
I would change chord symbols from C to C min7, G to G min7 etc. Also in Guitar pro when you do Cycle 5 you have to be careful about sharps and flats. So C dorian comes from Bb Ioanian and that scale has flats! G dorian comes from F Ionian which has one flat only etc

This will be great to correct as it makes you think of the origin of the scales, scale degrees and theory and harmony behind it!


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post Nov 22 2009, 06:02 PM
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QUOTE (Pedja Simovic @ Nov 22 2009, 03:58 PM) *
The notes are all correct !
I would change chord symbols from C to C min7, G to G min7 etc. Also in Guitar pro when you do Cycle 5 you have to be careful about sharps and flats. So C dorian comes from Bb Ioanian and that scale has flats! G dorian comes from F Ionian which has one flat only etc

This will be great to correct as it makes you think of the origin of the scales, scale degrees and theory and harmony behind it!


Hey Pedja,

the video is done biggrin.gif I have some muscle ache in my forearms so the playing is not so fluid biggrin.gif





I changed the Chord Names in the gp5 file. What do you mean with this :

QUOTE
Also in Guitar pro when you do Cycle 5 you have to be careful about sharps and flats. So C dorian comes from Bb Ioanian and that scale has flats! G dorian comes from F Ionian which has one flat only etc


For me C dorian has the Notes: C D D# F g A A# C
G dorian: G A A# C D E F G and so on.

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QUOTE (edguy @ Nov 22 2009, 06:02 PM) *
Hey Pedja,

the video is done biggrin.gif I have some muscle ache in my forearms so the playing is not so fluid biggrin.gif





I changed the Chord Names in the gp5 file. What do you mean with this :



For me C dorian has the Notes: C D D# F g A A# C
G dorian: G A A# C D E F G and so on.

cheers Roman


Great work with video Roman just slight mistake on F# dorian smile.gif

Regarding letter names... You can't have in one scale in this case C dorian same note twice. It is just not possible unless its an octave C note itself. So you said "For me C dorian has the Notes: C D D# F g A A# C". What actually needs to happen is D# needs to become Eb and A# needs to become Bb. Why is that? Its the same notes and they sound the same but in theory C dorian comes from Bb major scale and that scale has 2 flats Bb and Eb.
Now try to correct the problem with G dorian and same goes for all the rest of Dorian modes!


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post Nov 24 2009, 11:59 AM
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QUOTE (Pedja Simovic @ Nov 22 2009, 06:29 PM) *
Regarding letter names... You can't have in one scale in this case C dorian same note twice

Ah i always forgot this biggrin.gif:D You said this before. Be sure i don't make this mistake again.

Is there anything i have to do at the moment ? or will we go on to the next assignment?

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QUOTE (edguy @ Nov 24 2009, 11:59 AM) *
Ah i always forgot this biggrin.gif:D You said this before. Be sure i don't make this mistake again.

Is there anything i have to do at the moment ? or will we go on to the next assignment?

cheers Roman



I will post your assignment today Roman, stay tuned smile.gif


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post Nov 24 2009, 12:14 PM
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cool biggrin.gif

have a nice day biggrin.gif


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Here we go with Assignment 4 and REC !


- Learn Triads in major series part 1 lesson found HERE
- Record the lesson using backing track provided below
- Make a video of yourself playing it which you will submit by the end of November to REC board.

Let me know if you got any questions!

Pedja
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Attached File  main_120bpm.mp3 ( 1.1MB ) Number of downloads: 24
 


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Roman how is the last assignment coming along?


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