Recording Guitar, Tips for getting a good sound?
Toroso
Nov 20 2009, 05:35 PM
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Hey all, I dug my homebrew amp out and started playing around with some pedals and what not. It sounds so much better that I want to starting recording that rather than the comp based modelling. (Which is really very cool)

I've ordered a Shure SM57 on the advices of the good folks here. Until that comes in, I'm using my crappy Nady dynamic mic. I'm looking for tips on the getting the best recording I can.

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Nov 21 2009, 12:26 AM
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It's going to depend on a lot of things Toroso so a fair amount of experimenting will probably be in order. The acoustics of the room will play a big part in it. (think about talking in an empty room with hardwood floors vs a room filled with furniture and carpeted floors)

Also, the quality of the sound card that will be receiving the signal will play in as well. You may want to consider a preamp to warm it up a bit.

You can also play with different distances between the mic and amp cabinet as well as isolating it in a closet or with a blanket.

The more you play around with the set-up, the better off you will be in finding what works best for your situation.

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I will also suggest a distance mic to capture the sound some meters away from the amp, then You can blend the mices into each other. Since the near mic will give You a lot of attack, the distance mic will support depth and warmt of the sound. Also the angle of the close mic towards the speaker and if You are micing the cone or not makes a lot of difference here. Play the same phrase with the same setting and just move the mics around until You hit the "sweet spot" for Your sound.... smile.gif

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There are some experimenting you need to do, regarding room acoustics and mic placement. First do experimenting with one microphone, then start with two of them for capturing a wider sound range.

Have fun! smile.gif

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If you plan to record a distorted guitar, don't use too much distortion! This is a trap many people fall for. When you double your takes also the distortion will sum up, so two very distorted guitars will end up sounding very muddy, it is better to use not too much gain here. Try to experiment a bit with different settings and see until where it sounds good.

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QUOTE (Marcus Siepen @ Dec 1 2009, 12:37 PM) *
If you plan to record a distorted guitar, don't use too much distortion! This is a trap many people fall for. When you double your takes also the distortion will sum up, so two very distorted guitars will end up sounding very muddy, it is better to use not too much gain here. Try to experiment a bit with different settings and see until where it sounds good.



Good tip! Thanks Marcus smile.gif

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Mic position in relation to the speaker changes the tone DRAMATICALLY, this applies for live situations as well,

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QUOTE (Daniel Realpe @ Dec 2 2009, 10:11 PM) *
Mic position in relation to the speaker changes the tone DRAMATICALLY, this applies for live situations as well,



Cool vid! Thanks Daniel, gives some ideas to play with this weekend. cool.gif

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If you are using two mics, what is the best way to record the signal? Use a mixer and run that to the daw? Or somehow get each mic onto it's own channel so you have more flexibility in the DAW maybe?

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for sure get the two independent signal then u can blend them on the mix, it's never a good idea to blend em on the recording smile.gif

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QUOTE (Toroso @ Dec 6 2009, 07:12 PM) *
If you are using two mics, what is the best way to record the signal? Use a mixer and run that to the daw? Or somehow get each mic onto it's own channel so you have more flexibility in the DAW maybe?

The second option is more better of course. Always better to have by the channels, more flexibility.

If you use two mics, try to make a good tone only with them (using phase canceling), and use as little EQ as possible later (if you do use EQ, make sure you cut, rather than boost).

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QUOTE (Ivan Milenkovic @ Dec 7 2009, 08:16 PM) *
The second option is more better of course. Always better to have by the channels, more flexibility.

If you use two mics, try to make a good tone only with them (using phase canceling), and use as little EQ as possible later (if you do use EQ, make sure you cut, rather than boost).


How would you go about with phase cancelling?

So I would need multiple interfaces then? The Podfarm/Toneport UX2 has 2 XLR inputs, can each of those be assigned to a channel?

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QUOTE (Marcus Siepen @ Dec 1 2009, 07:37 PM) *
If you plan to record a distorted guitar, don't use too much distortion! This is a trap many people fall for. When you double your takes also the distortion will sum up, so two very distorted guitars will end up sounding very muddy, it is better to use not too much gain here. Try to experiment a bit with different settings and see until where it sounds good.


Great tip, one of the most important things in my opinion smile.gif

Here's a great video on the subject as well; http://www.imperialmastering.com/guitartonevid/

Hope you get something useful out of it smile.gif

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