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post Dec 1 2009, 05:43 PM
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Hi Nimrandir

Please write a short info about your current playing abilities, prefered styles and post some recordings or a video.
I am looking forward to this and I hope that you will learn many useful things throughout this program.

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Hi Emir!

I'm very glad that I got into your MTP! smile.gif
My name is Ivan, and I've been playing guitar for about 4-4,5 years. Here's an intro about myself:

Styles and influences

I like many styles, but mainly instrumental, progressive rock and metal, neo-classical, power metal. Some of my favorite guitarists are Steve Vai, Joe Satriani, John Petrucci, Yngwie, MAB, Andy James. As for bands, probably my favorite one is Dream Theater (they are kinda like dream team biggrin.gif ), but I also like bands like Symphony X, Blind Guardian, Nightwish, Blackmore's Night. Recently, I've also started getting into pop (my current favorites are "It's my time" by Jade Ewen and "My heart will go on" by Celine Dion smile.gif ). Also, I really like video game music, especially the early 8-bit era tracks and modern symphonic compositions (notably Michiru Yamane's work on Castlevania series and Paul Romero's Heroes of Might and Magic 3).
It's hard to recall everything here, but I hope you get the general picture smile.gif.

What I'm currently practicing

Songs:
Currently I'm practicing "Erotomania" by Dream Theater and "Scarified" by Racer X (just started on it yesterday smile.gif ). I'm planning to learn Vai's "Tender Surrender" in near future, but my problem is - I start learning a song, and then I stop halfway (I really have to overcome it...). As a result, in 4 years I've probably learned 2-3 songs sad.gif .
GMC lessons:
Alternate picking etude with string skipping
Mojo Oro part 1
Legato metal riffs
Racer X style
Techniques in general:
I'm now concentrating on improving alternate picking, but also do some legato and tapping exercises. The only technique I avoid at the moment is sweep picking. My problem with practicing is that I mostly practice simple licks and patterns, normally in one fredboard position, so when time comes for playing solos all over the fretboard... I fail smile.gif.

Theory status

I'd say I'm pretty good at theory when it comes to rock, metal etc. I'm comfortable with modes, harmonization and stuff. What I'd like to learn theory-wise is probably some classical music theory (sometimes I look at some chord progression in classical piece and really wonder what's the theory behind it smile.gif ).

My problems

My biggest problem is improvisation. I'm usually stuck within one fretboard position and spend too much time thinking how to play something I hear in my head, so the timing becomes all messed up.

What I'd like to learn
Sooo many things biggrin.gif . Obviously I'd like to improve my technique, but also I'm very interested in composition and arrangement. As mentioned above, I'm bad at improvising, so this is another thing. But also I'd like to improve my transcribing skills, do some ear training, some theory etc. Now, I guess it's too much so my main goal would be something like "improving technique and broadening lick vocabulary (esp. shred lick vocabulary smile.gif ) while being creative with composition and improvisation" biggrin.gif.

At the moment, I don't have any recordings of myself except collabs I've taken part in. Also, in theory I should be able to record videos, but I've never done it, so it will be something new to me smile.gif . But I'll need to do it anyway for the monthly REC take, so why not start getting comfortable sooner? biggrin.gif

By the way, about REC... I'm thinking between your Mixing different note groupings in soloing and Climax in a solo lessons. I'm going to start learning them both and see what I can play by the end of the month. Is it ok with you? smile.gif

So... if you need a recording of me playing, I can record something on Thursday or Friday, just tell me what do you want to hear/see - technique, improvisation or something else smile.gif. By the way, I'm going to finish my job and studying in the middle of next week, so I'll be almost completely free from then on smile.gif.

Anyway, thanks for accepting me, it's very nice to be here, and I'm looking forward to the first assignment! tongue.gif

PS it took me about an hour to write this post biggrin.gif
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post Dec 2 2009, 12:53 PM
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Hi Ivan and thanks for your info. We have similar taste in music smile.gif

From what I could read I can have pretty clear picture on what we have to do. You need to learn all scale boxes in order to improvise all over the neck. Many guys from the last MTP group went for that concept and some of them will be doing it in this group. It will help you a lot with technique, composition and improvisation. Theory also comes along with this. This is better than learning bunch of licks and get stuck with using them.

Regarding the video, you have to start doing it. The basic and simple way of doing it is to play backing track on your computer and film yourself playing over it. You can fim it with a simple home camera and transfer the video to your computer. You can use windows movie maker (comes with windows) to compress the file into a smaller size and upload to youtube. The better way is if you can use some recording software. Try Reaper, it's free for 30 days. Import backing track into the program and record guitar on top of it on a separate track. Then export everything together and sync audio and video. For this technique you need to have better soundcard, the onboard one won't help you. I don't mind how you do it as long as I see your fingers and hear the sound smile.gif

You need to submit your assignment once a week and also do one REC take per month. Don't go for too difficult REC lessons. Pick something that you can easily pass and when you feel comfortabe to go for a more complex one then go for it smile.gif REC take can be anything from GMC.

I'll be back soon with the assignment.


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post Dec 2 2009, 04:04 PM
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Great! smile.gif

About recording - I use cubase to do "normal" audio recordings, I've just never done any videos and never synced it smile.gif. So I'll go with the 2nd option. I've got external USB card (M-Audio Fast Track Pro), so I should be ok smile.gif.

About REC - then I'll go for Climax in a solo. I've already started practicing it (not from the beginning - started with the fast lick), and I've already got 2 problems, but there's a whole month to fix them smile.gif. First one is that I'm not used to playing so high up the neck, so finger patterns like 1-2-4 with one fret in between adjacent fingers don't yet feel natural (this high I'm used to 1-2-3 pattern for everything, but it is very inefficient in this case smile.gif ). This should be fixed in a couple of days when I get used to it. The other problem is with licks like

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-13-15-17-----17-15-

It's pretty easy for me to do it starting on a downstroke, as I use outside picking in that case. But two times in the run, this lick is started on an upstroke, so I'm forced to use inside picking, which doesn't feel natural; plus, I always hit unwanted strings when going fast this way. But it's also probably just a matter of getting comfortable with this technique smile.gif.

Can't wait to get the first assignment! smile.gif And I'm going to try recording something tomorrow (today I'm very sleepy, so I probably won't play anything meaningful biggrin.gif ).
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post Dec 2 2009, 06:33 PM
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By the way, the timing of that run in GTP looks messed up - is it supposed to be played like in gtp, or should it be more uniform and consistent?
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post Dec 3 2009, 01:47 AM
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QUOTE (Nimrandir @ Dec 2 2009, 05:33 PM) *
By the way, the timing of that run in GTP looks messed up - is it supposed to be played like in gtp, or should it be more uniform and consistent?

GP can't produce 5 or 7 tuplets which are needed for proper transcription. That's why I had to stick it somehow in there to have correct number of bars. Of course it should be consistent smile.gif At least you have all the correct notes in the GP file so you can do it your way. Start slowly and speed up, that's the whole point of that fast run.


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post Dec 3 2009, 02:07 AM
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Actually.. it can smile.gif . You just have to click on a little arrow to the right of triplet button smile.gif
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Anyway, I think I got quite good rhythmic approximation by playing along with the main video smile.gif But still there's one part of the run on which I stumble very frequently. Have to practise more smile.gif
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post Dec 3 2009, 11:17 AM
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QUOTE (Nimrandir @ Dec 3 2009, 01:07 AM) *
Actually.. it can smile.gif . You just have to click on a little arrow to the right of triplet button smile.gif
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Anyway, I think I got quite good rhythmic approximation by playing along with the main video smile.gif But still there's one part of the run on which I stumble very frequently. Have to practise more smile.gif

My GP doesn't have that option smile.gif Don't really know how it looks when you open it but I hope you got the point.


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post Dec 3 2009, 06:30 PM
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Ok, here we go. This text is copied from other members.

This is the chart and the video from Dexxter's MTP thread. Here I am explaining the first 3 positions of the chart and you can figure out the other two. Later we will make a good use of these patterns.





This is how Dexxter did it. He made a drum loop and played over it. It would be nice if you can do the same.




So this is your first assignment and I will open the new assignment thread where you can post your final work. Keep this one for disscussion and practicing.

You said you want to go for Climax in a solo for the REC. Post here when you learn a part so we can correct weak points. I can do a video and explain that fast run.


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post Dec 4 2009, 03:10 AM
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Hi Emir!

I've already started with the major scale positions and I think I'll be finished very soon smile.gif. Also can I follow the sweeping assignments from other threads? It is an opportunity for me to learn at least one technique not the trial and error way biggrin.gif (as I've never actually practiced sweeping).

Regarding REC - I'll post a video in a couple of days, when I'm comfortable playing everything (the 2nd part has to be played very agressively, so it requires some practice smile.gif ).

But today I've tried recording a video of myself playing, and it seems that I've succeeded biggrin.gif . But the playing is meaningless almost all the time, plus there are VERY many mistakes. Here it is:

Attached File  test.wmv ( 7.11MB ) Number of downloads: 56


There are very many unwanted noises, probably because I was trying to play faster than I actually can at the moment (and that damn electric eye was watching me laugh.gif ) + I haven't played some licks for a long time. But you'll probably get a general picture of where I am now (at least picking-wise). And can you please give me some advices/suggestions as to how make my playing cleaner? smile.gif

PS I'll probably record a take of me playing string skipping solo of Erotomania soon, so that you can see even better picture smile.gif

PPS Damn, I cant find a suitable preset to render the video... Tried 2 already, and they produce 40+MB files.
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post Dec 5 2009, 01:39 AM
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Hi Emir!

So I've learned all those positions. smile.gif I'll make a video tomorrow, but here's the audio recording :

Attached File  emir_mtp_1.mp3 ( 823.39K ) Number of downloads: 84


I've actually made a more or less full backing track (just for fun smile.gif ). There's a keyboard (organ) and bass, which turned out to be another keyboard (as I still haven't got bass samples smile.gif ). I hope it is OK this way (playing over just drums is booooring tongue.gif ). The progression in the beginning doesn't make much sense, but in the end it sounds quite nice I think. The only problem is that it actually resolves to F#m laugh.gif

By the way, I didn't notice that the root is G and done it in A, is it ok?

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Thanks for the video and the audio. You have some great techniques when playing. Picking is very good and you have a good control. You can play these scales in any key. The point is to memorize the positions. Many guys did in G because it is easy to cover the whole neck and not go too far over 15th fret. The key of A is ok as well. Backing track doesn't need to have any chords, it is up to you. For me is important to see that you learned the scales. You have the whole month for the REC take so no rush with that. And of course you can follow other threads and learn stuff there as well. It is open for everyone to see smile.gif Please post your assignment tomorrow so we can move on.


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post Dec 5 2009, 08:00 PM
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Hi Emir!
Thanks for kind words smile.gif I'm uploading my week 1 videos as I type, but for some reason it takes ages to do uploads on youtube (never actually done them before). Hope it will finish today laugh.gif.
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QUOTE (Nimrandir @ Dec 5 2009, 07:00 PM) *
Hi Emir!
Thanks for kind words smile.gif I'm uploading my week 1 videos as I type, but for some reason it takes ages to do uploads on youtube (never actually done them before). Hope it will finish today laugh.gif.

Ok no rush smile.gif

I have just seen the video. Great progress.

Now the copy from DenisN thread - the next assignment.

Here is the chart that I want you to play. Start from the top and read from left to right. First you play A major in position 5, then you play C major in position 4 etc... When you finish you move to the next row - A major position 1 etc... Your starting point should be between 1st and the 5th fret. You should play the whole thing with no stop. Make a backing with these chords in order: A, C, D, F, G and play along.



The second thing can be the same sweep picking but in the 155bpm smile.gif

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Great, will start with the assignments today smile.gif
One question about the chart assignment : do I need to learn how to play this particular chart by heart, or do I need to be able to play any similar chart at once?
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QUOTE (Nimrandir @ Dec 5 2009, 08:29 PM) *
Great, will start with the assignments today smile.gif
One question about the chart assignment : do I need to learn how to play this particular chart by heart, or do I need to be able to play any similar chart at once?

I don't know if I got it right smile.gif You have to learn to switch between different keys while staying within the same fret range. This is the whole point of this exercise. The whole first line is between 1st and the 5th fret then the second line is between the 4th and the 8th or 9th fret etc... You shouldn't learn it like a song, you need to think of the shape and the key. I hope this can answer your question smile.gif


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Hi Emir!

I've been practicing this chart for a couple of hours today (my head feels really heavy now laugh.gif), and I'm almost able to play it at slow tempo (~50bpm). What I do is look at the chart, find the next thing I need to play, for example C position 3. Then I think "OK, position 3.. root will be on the A string 3 frets above the first note", then I find the C note on the A string and play position 3 starting 3 frets below it (hope you understand what I mean smile.gif ). This way the 2nd position is the hardest for me, because the nearest root is on the D string. Is it the right approach, or have I messed something up? smile.gif Also, as I have to think while I play previous position, I sometimes play wrong notes, but I'll think it will improve with practice. smile.gif
The problem is - the more I practice, the more I remember how to play this thing as you called "like a song". So are there more charts like that? biggrin.gif

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There are more charts but don't worry about that. Learn it either way but always make sure that you know where your root is. Imagine if I give you this exercise to play it all in myxolydian or some other mode instead of a major scale smile.gif That's where we're actually going but we'll approach it a different way. You'll be fine I am sure. My head was heavy when I started learning this stuff but today I feel so comfortable on the guitar neck - thanks to this stuff. We have to make the instrument be our slave, not to be ruled by the instrument smile.gif


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Hi Emir!

So, I'm continuing to practice the assignments. I've also tried three string sweeps, and they are alot easier for me than two-string, except the last two shapes, where I still have some problems separating notes. By the way, is this 2-string technique the one Yngwie uses in his Trilogy Suite? smile.gif

I've got one theory question about secondary dominants. So, I understand that secondary dominant is a dominant chord borrowed from another key. Now the question is : what exact scale do I take this chord from? It's obvious that simply dominant seven chord is same everywhere where it exists (hope I'm not losing you smile.gif ), but for example dominant 7b9 (so I'm aiming for dim7 substitute) cannot be found in the major scale, but exists in harmonic minor. So can I use any suitable scale or are there any rules (or am I completely wrong everywhere? laugh.gif)?
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QUOTE (Nimrandir @ Dec 7 2009, 06:39 PM) *
By the way, is this 2-string technique the one Yngwie uses in his Trilogy Suite? smile.gif

Yes smile.gif

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I've got one theory question about secondary dominants. So, I understand that secondary dominant is a dominant chord borrowed from another key. Now the question is : what exact scale do I take this chord from? It's obvious that simply dominant seven chord is same everywhere where it exists (hope I'm not losing you smile.gif ), but for example dominant 7b9 (so I'm aiming for dim7 substitute) cannot be found in the major scale, but exists in harmonic minor. So can I use any suitable scale or are there any rules (or am I completely wrong everywhere? laugh.gif)?

You are right. We can borrow the dominant chord from another key and resolve to our normal key. For example if you are in A minor, the obvious dominant chord is G7 (mixolydian). This comes from C major scale degrees. You can resolve to A minor scale by throwing an E7 chord before going back to A minor. That E7 is not really coming from A major root even though E7 is the 5th chord from A major. In this case it is coming from A harmonic minor and it is its 5th mode called phrygian dominant. If you harmonize E phrygian dominant scale into 4 note chord you will get an E7 chord. So the right scale over that chord would be E phrygian dominant or just a simple E7 arpeggio. Of course you can do it with some extensions as you said like 7b9 that's all within that scale. Even the diminished 7 would work as the last mode of harmonic minor gives that chord when harmonized into 4 note chord. So feel free to borrow that chord as your 5th chord before resolving to a minor chord. When you're back to your normal minor chord you can play normal modes like aeolian or dorian or you can stay in harmonic minor.

Note the difference here. If you resolve from E7 to A major that's a normal dominant chord and mixolydian is the right scale over E7 or just E7 arpeggio.

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