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post Dec 1 2009, 05:44 PM
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Hi maharzan

Please write a short info about your current playing abilities, prefered styles and post some recordings or a video.
I am looking forward to this and I hope that you will learn many useful things throughout this program.

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post Dec 2 2009, 01:34 AM
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Hi Emir,

I am pretty excited about this MTP so here is my info.

I have been playing ON and OFF for past 15 years but never owned an electric guitar until last 5 years. I haven't been a hardcore player but would always wanted to play fast at times. I like Joe Satriani very much. If I listen to any music, that would be him. I would love to start composing songs like his, you know a melodic line and then few fast riffs (solo). Recently, I have found Andy Timmons and liked his songs as well. I have also been following Gilbert for his cool lessons on YouTube time to time, especially playing faster riffs.

I would love to do what Dexter did (play all over the neck). I did follow his thread for quite sometime in the last MTP, was great. But before I dive into that, I would love to have this immediate problem corrected.

PLAY at FASTER SPEEDs and SYNC well.

Currently, I think I can do 130bpm (16th notes). Thanks to Muris. I did what I haven't in 15 years in my last MTP with Muris. smile.gif My fingers got raped and my arms ached but I can now comfortably do 130bpm. But still not as professionally as you guys, of course. I have the Syncing and timing problem. And I really want to improve that immediately.. like the within next month.

If you see my last video (trying for my REC), you can see that the notes are quite short and have this staccato problem. I guess, I am releasing my fingers quite early, but its hard to tell at that speed. I am not sure if anybody has encountered that or there is good known solution.



For timing, this is what happens. In my mind, I usually play on time and when I practice, I feel its right. But when I record it, it is always like either some milliseconds faster, kind of lag there. I don't think its the software lag since this only happens if I am playing faster riffs. (maybe out of control). D

Here is another video to prove it (done before 3 months)



Here is a take from last MTP





So, Immediate attention to playing faster and with sync.

Future attention is definitely, play all over the neck and find melodic lines. smile.gif

Then, some tapping and sweeps (arppegios). I have never tried these.

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post Dec 2 2009, 12:20 PM
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Thanks for this long info smile.gif Your playing is very good. Excellent control, nice vibrato and good focus.

Regarding picking we can do a lot of different things. I will open assignment thread soon where you can post your final work every week and we'll keep this thread for practicing and discussion. Tapping and sweeps are also planed so stay tuned smile.gif We'll fix that coordination between hands for sure. I noticed that you have a lot of upstrokes or at least it looks on the videos. Maybe that's the reason why you're losing that picking control. You should really start a phrase with a downstroke so your accent lands on the right beat.

If you want to practice scale boxes as Dexxter did we can also go for it. That will help you with everthing.

We'll do an assignment every week and you're supposed to post one lesson for the REC program every month. That can be any GMC lesson.

I'll be back soon with the exercises.


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post Dec 2 2009, 01:16 PM
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Very cool Emir. Lets do one thing at a time (for sure). smile.gif A lesson focusing on syncing would be great to begin with.

As for upstrokes, I never knew about AP when I played guitar for like 4 years.. I always used to down down down stroke, and questioned how they could play so fast.. I didn't have much guitar players around me nor had I access to videos at that time. Now, its all on the web. smile.gif Although I do always start with downstroke most of the time. This particular REC I was trying felt easier on upstroke. So, perhaps it looked like that.

Anyway, can't wait for your 1st assignment. smile.gif

For REC, should I try this? https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/solo-guit...tring-skipping/


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post Dec 3 2009, 06:42 PM
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Hi

Let's go for these major scale boxes. Many other guys are doing it already so you can check their progress as well and see where you are smile.gif I am also doing some sweep picking stuff with other guys. Check Jakub's thread and see if you like it.

For now let's start with Major scales all over the neck.

This is the chart and the video from Dexxter's MTP thread which you have already seen. Here I am explaining the first 3 positions of the chart and you can figure out the other two. Later we will make a good use of these patterns.





This is how Dexxter did it. He made a drum loop and played over it. It would be nice if you can do the same.




So this is your first assignment and I will open the new assignment thread where you can post your final work. Keep this one for disscussion and practicing.


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post Dec 5 2009, 05:00 PM
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Well done for your first assignment. Excellent work. Let's move on.

Here is the chart that I want you to play. Start from the top and read from left to right. First you play A major in position 5, then you play C major in position 4 etc... When you finish you move to the next row - A major position 1 etc... Your starting point should be between 1st and the 5th fret. You should play the whole thing with no stop. Make a backing with these chords in order: A, C, D, F, G and play along. This exercise should seriously improve your fretboard skills.



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post Dec 5 2009, 05:40 PM
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wow.. now this sounds complex.. smile.gif

A in position 5 means starting on the 17th fret right?

I guess I need to do a lot of homework here. smile.gif


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post Dec 5 2009, 05:53 PM
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QUOTE (maharzan @ Dec 5 2009, 04:40 PM) *
wow.. now this sounds complex.. smile.gif

A in position 5 means starting on the 17th fret right?

I guess I need to do a lot of homework here. smile.gif

No, it starts from the 2nd fret. As the chart progresses you will move further up the neck, you will notice that as soon as you start. Black dots on the scale chart are your roots so that can help you see where you are. Good luck smile.gif


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post Dec 5 2009, 06:02 PM
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ah G shape.. smile.gif Completely forgot.. and I don't know why I thought it was 17th.. I just went 1 octave higher on the 1st position.. So, If we go with G-Scale we tried, Position 5 for A would start at 14th fret but since its G-shape.. instead of playing it on the 14th fret.. we play at 2nd right? As as we are starting on the 5th fret (or 4th from the charts) for position 1.

Okay I understood it. smile.gif I will just keep it on Shape rather than position I guess.

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Check Dexxter's video on his thread. He did it a couple of months ago. I am sure you got the point smile.gif


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post Dec 6 2009, 06:38 AM
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Yep I got it now. smile.gif

Btw, just a heads up that I want to try a simple lesson for REC.

https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/triplet_feel_riffing/

It is out of the regular (which I am stuck at) 8th / 16th note pattern and also focuses on AP. Since theres a lot going in assignments, I thought I would just try not so hard lesson for REC.

Thanks.

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post Dec 6 2009, 01:14 PM
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Triplet feel riffing is not hard leson. You can go for that if you like smile.gif


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post Dec 6 2009, 03:12 PM
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Emir,

I tried the assignment and so many things to remember. smile.gif

I need to think for a while and trace these out. This is my first time doing this and I understand its more of practice. But I wanted to know if there is any shortcut or tips to try remembering these positions. I think it would be easier to remember the note starting on the 6th string for all positions (at each chord) but it seems it goes on changing for a smooth flow.

Anything to make this easier would be greatly appreciated.

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You already know all 5 positions, don't you? smile.gif

The main trick here is to know where your root is. Once you visualise that then you just throw the scale accordingly. That's how I do it. The root is the key smile.gif Check on the scale chart - black dots are your roots.


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Okay..

I know the scales but can't find the root instantly.. I mean (its not always starting on the root note which is why I am getting confused). I have a think for like 2 secs. smile.gif

Need more practise I guess.

Thanks.

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QUOTE (maharzan @ Dec 7 2009, 03:22 AM) *
Okay..

I know the scales but can't find the root instantly.. I mean (its not always starting on the root note which is why I am getting confused). I have a think for like 2 secs. smile.gif

Need more practise I guess.

Thanks.

Well, no more cheating and learning songs by remembering which fret you need to press smile.gif You need to know where you are on the neck and where your root is at anytime. This exercise will help you learn all the notes on the fretboard. I know that the root is not always your first note but you have to learn it all at some point if you want to become a good guitarist. This stuff is essential. For exmple you need to know at anytime of the day or night what note is on the 4th string 9th fret smile.gif This exercise can help you a lot with that stuff but you should learn it yourself as well. First memorize all notes on 3rd, 5th, 7th and 9th fret. Those are the ones with dots painted on the neck.


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Oh for that matter, I know the notes on the fret board individually.. I am just not sure about say where it starts for D chord position 3. I have to think about that for sometime. Thats what i am curious about. I have to first find out where the position 3 for chord D is and then where it starts. My fingering is now remembering the positions but I need to cut short of this 'thinking time' so that I can play without thinking.. maybe that requires 2-3 years of practice. biggrin.gif which ultimately qualifies of becoming a pro.

Am I too early for that? wink.gif Its just day 2 I think.

On the other note, I have run down all the boxes on the chart for 10-15 times now and although its coming out slowly. I think another couple of days, I will understand the neck much better. smile.gif My fingers can now play easily the positions. I only have to remember that starting note for each position now. smile.gif


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It doesn't take 2 years for sure smile.gif It can take a month or two.

3rd position of major scale - think that your first root is the 4th finger and you don't go beyond that. Everything else in that position goes either before the 4th finger or the 4th finger itself. Everybody finds his way of thinking when moving through the positions.


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Just a question about Modes Emir.

I have seen guitar gods and some instructors here to learn modes as if they were a different scales. I have also seem some people suggesting that Modes are simply major scales on different positions. I have tried both (know mixolydian / tried lydian / dorian ) and I need your suggestion.

Its easy for playing if you are recalling one mode is some position of major scale. But it takes time to figure out which. This might be a wrong way to learn.

I have also tried taking modes for example A mixolydian as A major scales but flatted 7. I think this is a correct way of learning and you don't have to worry about which scale / position I have to play because I already know the A major scale. What do you think? Should I take this approach ? I am asking because I want to learn the modes the correct way no matter how long it will take. smile.gif


Another question:

How do we figure out which scale to play over a chord? Or is it just what ever we like? I mean for Am we could play both A aelion or A dorian (i don't know other modes right no for minor).

Need to get some theory lessons.


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QUOTE (maharzan @ Dec 15 2009, 01:47 AM) *
Another question:

How do we figure out which scale to play over a chord? Or is it just what ever we like? I mean for Am we could play both A aelion or A dorian (i don't know other modes right no for minor).

Need to get some theory lessons.

You can determine the modal feel by ear once you get some experience. Try with aeolian and if you think it sounds better with dorian then go for it. But from this point you have to know that if you're in A aeolian and the chord moves to G then you have to play G mixolydian. The second approach is if the song has A dorian feel then your G chord would be Ionian (major).

We'll get there. I left you some comments on the assignment thread regarding learning modes. Also you can read the text from this lesson if you want.


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