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 Dec 20 2009, 09:01 PM Post #21 Learning Apprentice Player Group: Members Posts: 686 Joined: 10-April 09 From: Switzerland Member No.: 7.035 Hi Pedja, thanks for the next assignments ! I am currently working on the triads. But I am cutting in on the practice to answer the 4th assignment questions below : QUOTE Example 1// C / B min / A min / B min / C / B min / A min / G // I think this is on G Major. With Amin, Bmin and C, C is obviously the IV so G is I. With A min it could have been a C Major as well but in that case B would have been a diminished chord, not minor.// G Maj / A min / Bmin / C Maj / D Maj / E min / F# dim / G Maj // QUOTE Example 2// D min / G min / C / A min / D min / Bb / C / A min // This is probably on a F Major. We have a G min and A min so G min is probably the II and A min the III. Plus, I learned the Circle of Fifth a few weeks ago and if we have a Bb and the A is not flat or sharp then it could be a F or C but if it had been a C then G would have been Major and not minor. Not sure the latest reflection is correct tho. // F Maj / G min / A min / Bb Maj / C Maj / D min / E dim / F Maj // QUOTE Example 3// F min7 / Eb / Bb7 / Bb7 / F min7 / C min / Eb / Bb7 / Bb7 // This is probably on Eb Major. We have a Bb 7 so it's probably the V and consequently the key is Eb.// Eb Maj7 / F min7 / G min7 / Ab Maj 7 / Bb 7 / C min7 / D min7b5 / Eb Maj7 // QUOTE Example 4// Eb maj7 / D min7 / G min7 / F7 / Eb maj7 / C min7 / Bb maj7 / F7 // Here, we have F7 which is probably the V so it's probably a Bb Major key.// Bb Maj 7 / C min7 / D min7 / Eb Maj7 / F7 / G min7 / A min7b5 / Bb Maj7 // QUOTE Example 5// D maj7 / B min7 / E min7 / A7 / D maj7 / F# min7 / G maj7 / A7 // Once again, I start from the A7 which is probably the V and go down to D Maj7 as the key.// D Maj7 / E min7 / F# min7 / G Maj7 / A7 / B min7 / C# min7b5 / D Maj7 //I still have a question about Cadences. I still can't understand why, in the case of your example (C Major) we talk about D Dorian as I IV and I IImin.First, why don't we write that I min IV and I min II min ? Second, why do we talk about I and not II as we still have C as a reference ? I find that pretty confusing and not very logical. I probably miss something here... -------------------- My Guitars: Fender Stratocaster Billy Corgan Signature, Ibanez RG270My Amp: Peavey Bandit 112My Pedals: Blackstar HT-Dual, Boss DD-7, Boss CS-3, Boss RC-20My Wishlist: New bridge + Pickups for my Ibanez, EHX POG2, EHX Cathedral / Holy Grail
 Dec 27 2009, 08:33 PM Post #23 Learning Apprentice Player Group: Members Posts: 686 Joined: 10-April 09 From: Switzerland Member No.: 7.035 QUOTE Example 1// C / B min / A min / B min / C / B min / A min / G // Sooo, as this is in GMaj. C is IV so it's Lydian. We have a progression as :// Imaj7 / VIImin7 / VImin7 / VIImin7 / Imaj7 / VIImin7 / VImin7 / Vmaj7 // QUOTE Example 2// D min / G min / C / A min / D min / Bb / C / A min // This is on F Major scale. D is IV so it's Aeolian.// Imin7 / IVmin7 / II7 / Vmin7 / Imin7 / bVImaj7 / IImin7 / Vmin7 // QUOTE Example 3// F min7 / Eb / Bb7 / Bb7 / F min7 / C min / Eb / Bb7 / Bb7 // This is Eb major. F is II so it's Dorian.// Imin7 / bVIImaj7 / bIV7 / Imin7 / Vmin7 / bVIImin7 / bIV7 / bIV7 // QUOTE Example 4// Eb maj7 / D min7 / G min7 / F7 / Eb maj7 / C min7 / Bb maj7 / F7 // This is Bb major so Eb is IV so it's Lydian.// bImaj7 / VIImin7 / IIImin7 / II7 / bImaj7 / VImin7 / bVmaj7 / II7 // QUOTE Example 5// D maj7 / B min7 / E min7 / A7 / D maj7 / F# min7 / G maj7 / A7 // This is D major scale. D is I so it's Ionian.// Imaj7 / VImin7 / IImin7 / V7 / Imaj7 / #IIImin7 / IVmaj7 / V7 //Now, if I refer to the post about cadences I cannot find all those progressions in the cadences list. Any reason for that that could help me understand all this a bit further ? Next step is to record my REC and post it. I practiced a lot. I will try to do that soon. -------------------- My Guitars: Fender Stratocaster Billy Corgan Signature, Ibanez RG270My Amp: Peavey Bandit 112My Pedals: Blackstar HT-Dual, Boss DD-7, Boss CS-3, Boss RC-20My Wishlist: New bridge + Pickups for my Ibanez, EHX POG2, EHX Cathedral / Holy Grail
 Dec 29 2009, 04:10 AM Post #24 Instructor Group: GMC Instructor Posts: 8.109 Joined: 13-September 08 From: Nis, Serbia Member No.: 5.892 QUOTE (Keilnoth @ Dec 27 2009, 08:33 PM) Sooo, as this is in GMaj. C is IV so it's Lydian. We have a progression as :// Imaj7 / VIImin7 / VImin7 / VIImin7 / Imaj7 / VIImin7 / VImin7 / Vmaj7 //This is on F Major scale. D is IV so it's Aeolian.// Imin7 / IVmin7 / II7 / Vmin7 / Imin7 / bVImaj7 / IImin7 / Vmin7 //This is Eb major. F is II so it's Dorian.// Imin7 / bVIImaj7 / bIV7 / Imin7 / Vmin7 / bVIImin7 / bIV7 / bIV7 //This is Bb major so Eb is IV so it's Lydian.// bImaj7 / VIImin7 / IIImin7 / II7 / bImaj7 / VImin7 / bVmaj7 / II7 //This is D major scale. D is I so it's Ionian.// Imaj7 / VImin7 / IImin7 / V7 / Imaj7 / #IIImin7 / IVmaj7 / V7 //Now, if I refer to the post about cadences I cannot find all those progressions in the cadences list. Any reason for that that could help me understand all this a bit further ? Next step is to record my REC and post it. I practiced a lot. I will try to do that soon. Keil check places where you put bI, bIV and #III. All those are not correct, try to correct them soon! Look forward to your triads lesson take!You will see in cadences thread how I listed cadence for each mode in major scale. For Dorian that could be I min to II min or I min to IV7. That could mean for example in key of C major, we got D dorian and chords would be in D Dorian D min to E min ( I min to II min) and D min to G7 (I min to IV7). This is just short cadence, when you put it all together like I did in examples above, it becomes hidden and more musical to extent. Hope that makes more sense -------------------- My Video Lessons
 Jan 2 2010, 03:57 PM Post #25 Learning Apprentice Player Group: Members Posts: 686 Joined: 10-April 09 From: Switzerland Member No.: 7.035 Hi Pedja,Sorry but with Christmas, New Year, friends, family, I was unable to record my video. It takes me a lot of time to record. I will try to do it now... -------------------- My Guitars: Fender Stratocaster Billy Corgan Signature, Ibanez RG270My Amp: Peavey Bandit 112My Pedals: Blackstar HT-Dual, Boss DD-7, Boss CS-3, Boss RC-20My Wishlist: New bridge + Pickups for my Ibanez, EHX POG2, EHX Cathedral / Holy Grail
 Jan 2 2010, 05:51 PM Post #26 Learning Apprentice Player Group: Members Posts: 686 Joined: 10-April 09 From: Switzerland Member No.: 7.035 Here we goooo :The REC link : https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_fo...showtopic=32970 This post has been edited by Keilnoth: Jan 2 2010, 05:58 PM -------------------- My Guitars: Fender Stratocaster Billy Corgan Signature, Ibanez RG270My Amp: Peavey Bandit 112My Pedals: Blackstar HT-Dual, Boss DD-7, Boss CS-3, Boss RC-20My Wishlist: New bridge + Pickups for my Ibanez, EHX POG2, EHX Cathedral / Holy Grail
 Jan 2 2010, 06:26 PM Post #27 Instructor Group: GMC Instructor Posts: 8.109 Joined: 13-September 08 From: Nis, Serbia Member No.: 5.892 QUOTE (Keilnoth @ Jan 2 2010, 05:51 PM) Here we goooo :The REC link : https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_fo...showtopic=32970 Fantastic work Keil!I will give you 10 for this one just make sure you include grading pool in your MTP thread ! -------------------- My Video Lessons
 Jan 2 2010, 07:02 PM Post #28 Instructor Group: GMC Instructor Posts: 8.109 Joined: 13-September 08 From: Nis, Serbia Member No.: 5.892 Keil since you completed all assignments for December successfully, I am closing this thread now. New one for January will be opened soon with your first assignment - stay tuned! -------------------- My Video Lessons

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