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A.C. Dega
post Dec 15 2009, 04:54 AM
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###Note this part of the thread will be edited continually, read it again later for the newest ideas.###

See if you guys can add to this and help me out a bit...

I want to help create the "road map" of sorts for new GMCers and old members; Geared towards advancing each player’s knowledge and skill from fundamentals to champion virtuoso. This will be a basic skeleton for now; we can rearrange it and add to it as we go along.

It should not only address the “what to do's” but also the “why to do it”... Here... I'll just get to it and you can add what you think is good.

One of the main ideas I want to point out before we dive in here; comes from my situation. I've been playing lazily for ever and never making progress because I never... ever... knew or understood the why behind practicing, and the why behind learning things like scales, chords, licks, arpeggios and techniques. If we make a plan that emphasizes the “why’s” we can help everyone improve faster and streamline advancement. Instead of dumping everything on them all at once we can give them a big push in the right direction first and then let them decide what path to take.

After we compile a list we need to clean it up and make it nice and clear. I’d like to see it in a Grid type thing for easy navigation.


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GMC Road Map to Successful Progress.
(what makes a guitarist a better guitarist?) a.k.a. why you still suck and how to fix it.

Level #? What to do:

I. Learn and permanently memorize basic chord shapes in open positions C, A, G, E, D Major & Minor and diminished
Why? To Get a feel for the sounds and shapes of these chords as they are used everywhere in music.
Wheres the Progress?

Once you know these shapes you can move them all over the fret board. If you wish to see progress learn to do just that; play them all over the fret board as Barre Chords. (Don't forget the c a g e and d minor and Diminished shapes)

Why can’t I just play power chords all the time? Hello! This list is about progress. Don’t be lazy! Besides that, there is a very important psychological realization that can only take place while practicing these things. You will never notice these relations otherwise.

Ia:EAR TRAINING

(insert Video Links Here)
Here is one lesson to get you started... notice that kristopher is just moving the same shape up and down the neck. Do this with all c,a,g,e,d shapes, major minor and diminished and 7th major minor and diminished.



II. Learn and permanently memorize the Pentatonic scale
Why? The pentatonic scale is one of the most versatile Scales in any music genre. Memorizing this scale will open the door to unlocking great sounding solos and will open your eyes to new chord progression possibilities. This will last your entire guitar playing career. Do it now! memorize it once use it very often and keep it forever.

Wheres the Progress? Once you have this scale mastered, you just have to add or subtract one or two notes and you can build all other scales. This will be your starting point for really, really, simple memorization later. This scale is also easy to transfer to a different key. Practicing it will eliminate your fears of new keys immediately. You must learn to play this scale all over the fret board in every key. Become intimate with it, be absolutely comfortable with it, there should be no thought when changing from one scale shape/position to another ascending or descending. Do this in all Keys (it’s a must)

You should eventually be able to play the lowest part of shape one; jump to the top of shape 3, the middle of shape 2, the bottom of shape five, the entire shape 3, the top of shape one; the middle of shape five on the high end of the fret board; back to shape five on the low end, etc, etc, with no effort.

BIG NOTE! If you want to play the major pentatonic scale... just use shape 2 to start with at your root position; instead of shape 1, and you are now major! The other boxes are all still in the same order... 2 3 4 5 1... Awesomely easy.



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1. Do this entire series.
2. Make this one your every day warm up... EVERY DAY. Once mastered it only takes 45 seconds. Learn it in A minor First, Then Bm, Cm, Gm, Dm, & F and the rest. Mix up the picking patterns for each key, (example: Play pick pattern one for section 2, pick pattern 2 for section three etc.) Each key should have a different combination. This way you will know each key by memory alone eventually.
3.Also learn this one... This will help too.


4. Learn and Permanently memorize the Major scale.
Why? Now this is where its at! the major scale is the most important scale to learn. From it you will be able to construct chord progressions. It is the basis of the seven modes and also the foundation of the diatonic Chord Progression Numeral system (I ii iii IV V vi Viidim) Plus! if you did your homework on the pentatonic scale learning these five scale shapes will be so freakin' EASY!

Wheres the Progress? Once you have mastered this scale you have really mastered SEVEN scales including the minor scale!
To see progress you must be able to play the major scale in all keys + the chord progressions. Learn to play the major "chordal scale" chords I – Vii ascending and descending all over the neck to see real progress. (Actually Do This!) Here This Will HELP

Once you’ve made it this far you can actually learn from the songs that you play and listen to… finally some substance! Use this new mastery to “de-Score” the songs you are learning. Point out the I IV V and the I ii iii progression, the scale shape/position that dude is whaling on. If you do this for thirty songs your progress will astound you and your listeners.

(insert lesson links with inspiring examples here)



5. Do the same with the minor scale… ha ha… you already have! Now just do it consciously.

(Insert lessons links with inspiring examples here.)




That’s the start what can we add?
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O.k. getting a little long winded here... need to shorten it up.

The fallowing are not necessarily in exact order. I do suggest that you learn the scales in this order; but everything else should be worked on at about the same time; at a progressive but not overaggressive pace. We aren't going to get anywhere if we aren't honest with ourselves about our possession of the knowledge, if we aren't moving on to the next area with confidence in our current study... we stay on our current study, we stay progressive, but we have patience, other wise we are setting ourselves up for stagnation all over again. Refer to this as a to do list, and give yourself a realistic dead line to accomplish each goal. Pay attention to the (comments in parenthesis)

1. Ear Training= faster progress through understanding music. Learn to recognize all intervals by ear, start with perfect fifths, then when ready move on to 4ths, then major 3rds, then minor 3rds.
1a. Learn to memorize the spelling of all intervals as well. (i'll post ez memory secrets later)
Here is a link to an excellent online ear training and interval spelling tool http://www.musiclearningtools.net/

3. Learn caged chord shapes all over fretboard
4. Master pentatonic scale all keys,
5. Play it to backing tracks in the proper key to make it easier, then jam with these tracks also.
------------------ SIDE NOTE** Like blues/ want to add a kick to pentatonic playing? Then also master the blues scale after pentatonic.**

6. Start memorizing a large library of licks in your chosen Genre. (don't worry about the theory here) just learn licks in any scale/key.


Work on technique at the same time. Make time to jam with the new knowledge
then...

1. Master the major scale in all keys while you also
master the major chordal scale all keys.

2. Play to backings and jam/ collaborate with people at gmc
Work on techniques and new licks at the same time.

3. EAR TRAINING If you've learned to recognize perfect 5ths, perfect 4ths, Major & minor 3rds by ear. Now begin Learning to tell the difference between major & minor chords. Then learn to I.D. Major & Minor chord inversions by ear.

4. Master modes in all keys, play to backing tracks in those keys, jam/collab.
Master arpeggio chordal scales to backing tracks in proper keys, jam/collab

5. De-Score 30 songs bar by bar/section by section (if you have trouble you can always ask teachers and the community for help)

. 1. What key is the bar or song in?

. 2. How do you notate the Backing Chord Progression? bar by bar/ section by section (ex: I ii iii IV)

. 3. How do you notate the strumming rhythm bar by bar? (Ex. 1- E- &- a- 2- E- rest-3-&-a-4)

. 4. How do the melody notes, relate to the root notes, of the backing chords? bar by bar (ex. minor 3rd, minor 6th, etc.)

. 4a. What note is most prevalent in the melody per each chord change? How does it relate to the chord at hand?

. 5. What scales can you I.D.? (Ex. Pentatonic, Harmonic, etc.)

. 6. What effects are used and where? (Ex. Distortion, Flanger, Wah, etc.)

. 7. Where does the volume swell and recede. (example Pre-verse 1, Guitar two intro., Solo intro., Song Ending., )

. 8. Can you I.D. leading tones or other "high-lights" you didn't point out before in the section? Can you use a similar idea in your own stuff?

. 9. How is the song arranged? (ex: Intro, Chorus 2x, Verse, Chorus 2x, Verse, Bridge, Solo, Outro)

. 10. Can you apply these ideas to your own songs yet? Yes? good! Analyze more songs!... If not then... Analyze more Songs!

NOTE! It is not necessary to be able to do these analysis by ear alone. but you must be able to at least play the song and understand what you are writing down! Just make sure you are very detailed. Tabs, Scores, Instructors and Community members are all usable resources!

6. continue memorizing a large library of licks



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While doing any of the previously stated also work on techniques during your practice of them like

Fast alternate economy picking

Sweep picking

Tapping

Bending

slide guitar


Create a practice program for yourself that involves an aggressive attitude towards being able to move on confidently. Always start with pentatonic warm up and end with pentatonic cool down. As you progress keep the earlier knowledge fresh in your mind.

Start in small chunks. Make practice sessions with realistic mini goals to be accomplished by the end of that session. If your mind is not on progress you will stagnate and get side tracked without continuing to progress... like I have; and I regret it so much.
Try to come up with ways to combine things... like Learning new chords and mastering the pentatonic scale at the same time.
Play pent first pos. then your new chord shape then pent second pos then new chord shape moved up... and on and on. get creative.1

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post Dec 15 2009, 03:10 PM
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man, that's a terrific idea imo

On the Why section there could be famous examples as for people to get motivated


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post Dec 15 2009, 04:39 PM
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Great idea!, this will make excellent material for our knowledge base (wiki) too, I'll be glad to help putting it all in there as the info keeps coming smile.gif

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post Dec 15 2009, 11:22 PM
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QUOTE (Fran @ Dec 15 2009, 09:39 AM) *
Great idea!, this will make excellent material for our knowledge base (wiki) too, I'll be glad to help putting it all in there as the info keeps coming smile.gif


Awesome guys; we should be getting lots of ideas coming from both threads soon.
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post Dec 15 2009, 11:32 PM
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a good idea is to pick your favorite songs, songs that you want to learn and eventually play.


study those songs. when i mean study, i mean figure out all the chords/theory/scales/types of techniques. If you arent sure, ask us!

this process will make playing and learning the song much easier. Techniques you learn from one song can applied to learning others, and pretty soon you will be shredding like no ones business!


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post Dec 16 2009, 12:45 AM
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Awesome man... will do, I never realized the awesome support structure that is here.
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we all have an idea how hard it is to learn these complex instruments! thats why students and teachers here a like all are standing by, ready to help each other.


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post Dec 16 2009, 02:08 AM
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Nice idea man, this could be developed into something very cool. Thanks for this suggestion


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post Dec 16 2009, 03:17 AM
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QUOTE (Daniel Realpe @ Dec 15 2009, 04:10 AM) *
man, that's a terrific idea imo

On the Why section there could be famous examples as for people to get motivated

Help... what is "IMO" is see it everywhere but can't guess... huh.gif


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QUOTE (Hammerhead @ Dec 15 2009, 08:17 PM) *
Help... what is "IMO" is see it everywhere but can't guess... huh.gif


I.M.O. stands for In My Opinion cool.gif
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Thanks for the IMO... wink.gif

I like how you have organized the "steps" for success. Clearly there needs to be some order to the "learning" process! The only thing at the moment that I can think of to add is that there needs to be time to "jam" with the new information. All of the study in the world will mean nothing if we don't get a chance to "enjoy" it, if that makes sense. I have found myself losing interest in studying because it can feel so much like work at times, and there is no reward. So finding a collaboration that follows a certain area of study can breathe new life into the hard work we apply to our studies. Honestly I've had to ask myself why I get up at 3:30 everyday just to fit in time to "study" guitar. The answer is because I love it, of course, but ultimately I want to share it with family and friends. Music is an art that must be shared to enjoy... no?

I really love the collaborations because I get to try out my skills in a real way! So Mybe if there is a way to include the collaborations or something similar into the study routine.. then I think we can encourage the head and the heart! cool.gif


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QUOTE (Hammerhead @ Dec 15 2009, 11:12 PM) *
Thanks for the IMO... wink.gif

I like how you have organized the "steps" for success. Clearly there needs to be some order to the "learning" process! The only thing at the moment that I can think of to add is that there needs to be time to "jam" with the new information. All of the study in the world will mean nothing if we don't get a chance to "enjoy" it, if that makes sense. I have found myself losing interest in studying because it can feel so much like work at times, and there is no reward. So finding a collaboration that follows a certain area of study can breathe new life into the hard work we apply to our studies. Honestly I've had to ask myself why I get up at 3:30 everyday just to fit in time to "study" guitar. The answer is because I love it, of course, but ultimately I want to share it with family and friends. Music is an art that must be shared to enjoy... no?

I really love the collaborations because I get to try out my skills in a real way! So Mybe if there is a way to include the collaborations or something similar into the study routine.. then I think we can encourage the head and the heart! cool.gif


Good Point about that. It has been added my friend.
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This should be stickied.


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Bookmarked this one!
I'll keep coming back to this for awhile. Great stuff to keep me motivated and disciplined.

Can't wait for a permanent section at GMC for this stuff somewhere.
A famous quote that I don't know where it came from...

Knowledge is "what" to.
Skill is "how" to do it.
Motivation is "why" to do it. ... Always look for the "why". When you find it then the "how" and the "what" will become easy.



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QUOTE (JamesT @ Dec 16 2009, 11:55 PM) *
Bookmarked this one!
I'll keep coming back to this for awhile. Great stuff to keep me motivated and disciplined.

Can't wait for a permanent section at GMC for this stuff somewhere.
A famous quote that I don't know where it came from...

Knowledge is "what" to.
Skill is "how" to do it.
Motivation is "why" to do it. ... Always look for the "why". When you find it then the "how" and the "what" will become easy.


Exactly My man... Got any ideas?

What are Some of the Road Blocks you've seen in Your playing?

What are some things you have put off learning or doing?

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Added new Ideas to Song Analysis Section.
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Very nice idea smile.gif

I do have to mention something that's been helping me out alot...
I have not been learning too many lessons or theory ever to be honest.
But I always play the guitar every time I get the chance!
And by playing and playing and playing, without a specific goal except writing songs
and learning melodies I have in my head, have helped me out alot.
You get better by doing this although it would be better if you constantly practice lessons and theory.
Not everyone have the time or drive to do this, like me, but loves playing the guitar anyway.
And by just playing and trying to get the ideas you have a reality (on the guitar),
will help you a long way smile.gif

I am willing to put this to the test if anyone doubt it, hehehe...
I have never taken a "real lesson" (with an instructor),
and only a few GMC lessons, but I still consider myself a fairly good guitarist..
Although a few instructors would argue that perhaps laugh.gif

Playing the guitar is the most important thing after all!

Just a tip wink.gif


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post Dec 25 2009, 11:28 AM
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Nice thread, bookmarked already ! smile.gif

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QUOTE (Keilnoth @ Dec 25 2009, 04:28 AM) *
Nice thread, bookmarked already ! smile.gif

You can add this link for Ear training : http://www.musiclearningtools.net/


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