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post Dec 18 2009, 05:27 AM
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hello fellow musicians and instructors.

i would be glad if someone could give me an advice on this problem or infact problems i have.

one example would be Paul Gilbert's technical difficulties or The Gargoyle.

When it comes to either pedal note riffs or chords then an immediate excecution of descending scale. my fingers will just all go retarded like. whereas on the other hand if i just do the descending scale, it sounds fine.

Does this have to do with accurate finger placements etc.

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post Dec 18 2009, 08:06 AM
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I would say that's to do with practicing and also the finger placement respectively smile.gif

You have to practice slowly. Many people learn to play stuff fast from the begining and it takes ages to fix it later if you learn wrong. Speed will come with time. The most important is to execute the phrase with no mistake, no matter how slow. Metronome is another important thing to have when practicing. Gilbert's runs are often not easy so take your time and get it right from the start then speed up when you think you're ready to set your tempo faster. Eventually you will reach the goal.


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post Dec 18 2009, 03:55 PM
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QUOTE (Emir Hot @ Dec 18 2009, 07:06 AM) *
I would say that's to do with practicing and also the finger placement respectively smile.gif

You have to practice slowly. Many people learn to play stuff fast from the begining and it takes ages to fix it later if you learn wrong. Speed will come with time. The most important is to execute the phrase with no mistake, no matter how slow. Metronome is another important thing to have when practicing. Gilbert's runs are often not easy so take your time and get it right from the start then speed up when you think you're ready to set your tempo faster. Eventually you will reach the goal.



i see. thank you sir. i will definately take your advices and put it to good use.
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post Dec 19 2009, 05:22 AM
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QUOTE (alfredo @ Dec 18 2009, 02:55 PM) *
i see. thank you sir. i will definately take your advices and put it to good use.

That's the way I got things to work, I hope it will work for you as well smile.gif


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post Dec 19 2009, 06:17 AM
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QUOTE (Emir Hot @ Dec 19 2009, 04:22 AM) *
That's the way I got things to work, I hope it will work for you as well smile.gif


On metronome practice. Whats the right way and habit for using it as a practice tool. What i heard was, starting slow, gradually increasing the speed until you reach the limit where ur fingers doesn't sound clean at all. How about the next day, what speed should we set to it as im sure the next day our fingers would be either sleeping or, recovering from the intensive workout the day before.
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I set my speed to something that is comfortable. When I feel like I am ready to speed up then I increase it for about 10bpm or sometimes more. That can be every day up to 10 bpm. In 2-3 days I can usually play what I wanted but it doesn't matter how long it takes. It will take less and less every time you develop your skills more.


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post Dec 19 2009, 08:01 AM
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QUOTE (Emir Hot @ Dec 19 2009, 05:53 AM) *
I set my speed to something that is comfortable. When I feel like I am ready to speed up then I increase it for about 10bpm or sometimes more. That can be every day up to 10 bpm. In 2-3 days I can usually play what I wanted but it doesn't matter how long it takes. It will take less and less every time you develop your skills more.



once again... thanks!
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post Dec 19 2009, 10:16 PM
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Great advice Emir has here,

Also divide the whole run or scale into smaller chunks and master them individually and them connect them. With master I mean play them as fast as you can, and then try to do two chunks at the same speed,

That's how I sometimes work on things that I can't play


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post Dec 20 2009, 01:27 AM
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QUOTE (Daniel Realpe @ Dec 19 2009, 09:16 PM) *
Great advice Emir has here,

Also divide the whole run or scale into smaller chunks and master them individually and them connect them. With master I mean play them as fast as you can, and then try to do two chunks at the same speed,

That's how I sometimes work on things that I can't play



awesome! thanks daniel
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QUOTE (alfredo @ Dec 18 2009, 05:27 AM) *
hello fellow musicians and instructors.

i would be glad if someone could give me an advice on this problem or infact problems i have.

one example would be Paul Gilbert's technical difficulties or The Gargoyle.

When it comes to either pedal note riffs or chords then an immediate excecution of descending scale. my fingers will just all go retarded like. whereas on the other hand if i just do the descending scale, it sounds fine.

Does this have to do with accurate finger placements etc.

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It has to do with accurate synchronization of both hands. You will achieve this by really slowing down and playing with the metronome, using the method Emir provided, or something similar that you made for yourself by adapting this method slightly to match your way of practicing.



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post Dec 20 2009, 05:39 AM
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QUOTE (Ivan Milenkovic @ Dec 20 2009, 01:44 AM) *
It has to do with accurate synchronization of both hands. You will achieve this by really slowing down and playing with the metronome, using the method Emir provided, or something similar that you made for yourself by adapting this method slightly to match your way of practicing.



awesome. thanks for the tip ivan!
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Just curiosity, but, where are you placing your thumb when doing the fast licks?


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QUOTE (Santiago Diaz Garces @ Dec 20 2009, 06:09 PM) *
Just curiosity, but, where are you placing your thumb when doing the fast licks?


Myself I let the thumb freely move as needed, that's something to consider. Not to have a stracit position


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