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post Jan 11 2010, 01:53 PM
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QUOTE (audiopaal @ Jan 10 2010, 07:43 PM) *
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I have had good results with cheaper ones (although pretty expensive) like the Sonnox Oxford plug-ins (Oxford Inflator, Oxford Transient Modulator and Oxford Limiter), Waves SSL 4000 (SSL G-channel, SSL G-equalizer, SSL G-master Buss Compressor, SSL E-channel), Abbey Road Plugins (Brilliance Pack) and Ozone etc..
I like to work with good gear/software although I'm not the best in the business, because it'll make me get the best sound I can have at this moment.
And I would recommend these plugs (some for mixing and some for ITB mastering), because they sound really good.
I don't know if you've tied any of them, but I'd be interrested in your opinion if you have smile.gif



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Sonnox are generally very good. We don't use them but that's only because we all ready have those bases covered - that and when we originally looked we were trying to avoid any plug-in that used a USB authorisation system - we've since given up on that and accept that we have to use an i-lok for some. Only thing I would say is be carefully how you use the Inflator and Transmod as they can add quite a bit of noticible distortion. (All effects add distortion but some is more obvious than others wink.gif .)

Waves - Never used much as I'm not fond of their pricing and upgrade policy. We briefly looked at the SSL4000 emulation and its pretty good but didn't quite do the 4000 for us. Nearly but not quite - or at least it wasn't quite the 4000 series that I remember. We also just don't need an SSL emulation here smile.gif - what mixing we do here we tend to do via Neve hardware. Mastering wise, maybe the G buss comp but not the others.

As an alternative to the G comp you might want to take a look at this.

Not tried the Abbey Road plug-ins yet but have heard quite positive stuff about them.

Ozone again is good VfM. We had a quick look at it back at version 3 but don't really need an all-in-one. Dither in Ozone is v good btw.

A couple of other vsts that may be worth you looking at are:

This LP EQ here - the IEQ Pro, Interesting pricing policy as well. Another good one for the price is this one from Melda

The Stillwell plug-ins here - particularly Event Horizon and Rocket.

If you want to demo the Algo their site is here

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... could I send you a one of their songs before mixing and the final mix/master so you can give an opinion on how I did, and maybe what I should do differently next time?


Just going back to this quickly - may be better to send me the pre-master and post master rather than the pre-mix and post master. That way it's focused on mastering rather than possibly falling between the two smile.gif .


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post Jan 12 2010, 11:36 AM
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QUOTE (tonymiro @ Jan 11 2010, 01:53 PM) *
Sonnox are generally very good. We don't use them but that's only because we all ready have those bases covered - that and when we originally looked we were trying to avoid any plug-in that used a USB authorisation system - we've since given up on that and accept that we have to use an i-lok for some. Only thing I would say is be carefully how you use the Inflator and Transmod as they can add quite a bit of noticible distortion. (All effects add distortion but some is more obvious than others wink.gif .)

Waves - Never used much as I'm not fond of their pricing and upgrade policy. We briefly looked at the SSL4000 emulation and its pretty good but didn't quite do the 4000 for us. Nearly but not quite - or at least it wasn't quite the 4000 series that I remember. We also just don't need an SSL emulation here smile.gif - what mixing we do here we tend to do via Neve hardware. Mastering wise, maybe the G buss comp but not the others.

As an alternative to the G comp you might want to take a look at this.

Not tried the Abbey Road plug-ins yet but have heard quite positive stuff about them.

Ozone again is good VfM. We had a quick look at it back at version 3 but don't really need an all-in-one. Dither in Ozone is v good btw.

A couple of other vsts that may be worth you looking at are:

This LP EQ here - the IEQ Pro, Interesting pricing policy as well. Another good one for the price is this one from Melda

The Stillwell plug-ins here - particularly Event Horizon and Rocket.

If you want to demo the Algo their site is here



Just going back to this quickly - may be better to send me the pre-master and post master rather than the pre-mix and post master. That way it's focused on mastering rather than possibly falling between the two smile.gif .

Yeah, I agree Sonnox is pretty great smile.gif
I'd like some more of their plug-ins as well, but can't afford right now.
But there are also cheaper alternatives that might do the job as well in my situation, so I'll see what I end up with in the end smile.gif

Haha, I tried to avoid it (usb dongles) as well for as long as I could, but it was futile biggrin.gif

I know, the Inflator and TransMod are very delicate plug-ins.
I can make the songs sound better with these, but also completely crush them so it's best to use them with caution.
But in small doses, these are awesome smile.gif

I agree on waves as well, that's why I never bought them myself.
I used the SSL collection while mixing/mastering the album I've talked about, because the drummer owned it smile.gif
Sounds pretty good though, but there are alternatives less expensive.

Cytonic Glue looks amazing, thanks for sharing mate smile.gif
I'll be sure to check that out!!

I can really vouch for the Abbey Road plug-ins, they are indeed very good!
I have bought the Brilliance pack, and it really makes single tracks or full mixes shine (if used right, which is really simple) smile.gif
Will probably look into buying the rest of them as well, because of the impression the brilliance pack gave me!
You should check them out. There are 30 days demo versions on their site smile.gif
Would be cool to hear your impression of them as well, as your ears are undoubtedly better than mine laugh.gif

I have Ozone 4, and it's a great tool for getting the job done "quickly" if you will.
And I will continue to use it for some purposes, but not for a full master as I have better tools for that (I just need to learn more laugh.gif).

The EQ and Compressor from http://ddmf.eu is great, I already have it!
And the pricing policy is amazing! I did pay a little extra as I really support people who does business like that smile.gif

Stillwell plug-ins I have heard great things about, and will be sure to check them out!

I also visited the Algo site, and hopefully someday I can justify buying those plug-ins.
As for now I really have to get better at mixing and mastering smile.gif


Have you tried URS plug-ins by the way?
They have some decent plug-ins in my opinion, and I have two of them.
I bought the URS FullTec and BLT EQ Bundle, and I'm really happy with the quality and sound of them.
I'd really like their Channel Strip as well, but it'll have to wait smile.gif



Thanks a lot Tony, you're great biggrin.gif





edit: I use too many emoticons... ph34r.gif

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post Jan 12 2010, 01:14 PM
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Abbey Road is kind of on a (very long) list of things to look at so at some time in the future we'll look at them smile.gif .

We've looked at URS quickly in the past and they're good but generally we don't have much call for emulations here. However I've only ever heard good things about their Pultec stuff smile.gif .

A bit off topic but I know the guy (Paul) who designed and wrote the code for some of the Sonnox plugs long time ago. He's a nice guy and now works for himself.


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post Jan 12 2010, 01:32 PM
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QUOTE (tonymiro @ Jan 12 2010, 01:14 PM) *
Abbey Road is kind of on a (very long) list of things to look at so at some time in the future we'll look at them smile.gif .

We've looked at URS quickly in the past and they're good but generally we don't have much call for emulations here. However I've only ever heard good things about their Pultec stuff smile.gif .

A bit off topic but I know the guy (Paul) who designed and wrote the code for some of the Sonnox plugs long time ago. He's a nice guy and now works for himself.

Hehe, I can imagine there's enough equipment out there for you to look at smile.gif

I see, I'll check out their Pultec stuff then! ...just realized that I already own it laugh.gif Yes it's good, hehe

Oh, that's cool.. Does he still make plug-ins?

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post Jan 12 2010, 01:38 PM
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QUOTE (audiopaal @ Jan 12 2010, 01:32 PM) *
Hehe, I can imagine there's enough equipment out there for you to look at smile.gif

I see, I'll check out their Pultec stuff then!

Oh, that's cool.. Does he still make plug-ins?


Fulltect are their Pultec emulations smile.gif - they can't say so though for legal reasons. I think all the urs stuff are emulations of some well regarded hardware - I know there's also some Neve and some Trident stuff in there somewhere smile.gif .

Not sure what Paul is doing at the mo - I'll ask. He probably is as I don't think working for Sonnox made him a millionaire wink.gif . He's a talented and very clever guy imho.


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QUOTE (tonymiro @ Jan 12 2010, 01:38 PM) *
Fulltect are their Pultec emulations smile.gif - they can't say so though for legal reasons. I think all the urs stuff are emulations of some well regarded hardware - I know there's also some Neve and some Trident stuff in there somewhere smile.gif .

Not sure what Paul is doing at the mo - I'll ask. He probably is as I don't think working for Sonnox made him a millionaire wink.gif . He's a talented and very clever guy imho.

Yeah, I just realized laugh.gif
I've heard many good things about their other products..

Cool, would be nice to see what he's up to, and if he's still making plugs I'd be interrested to see what it is smile.gif
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