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post Jan 1 2010, 10:59 AM
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I'm trying to analyze the elements/ techniques required for good speed soloing as I wish to learn this style....Of course it seems that it is a combination of everything tongue.gif

But to start with, I really wish to learn the 2 string or 3 string speed picking / arpeggio licks which are very dominant in a lot of metal solo's .. which are often heard in OLD metallica, megadeth and arch enemy solo's.... and all over neoclassical stuff .. It includes very fast pattern runs on the 1-2-3 strings ..

Do you have any tips or can guide me in the right direction to an exercise or lesson that helped you a lot in developing that speed (the speed of changing between patterns too, not just speed of picking within 1 pattern)?? I want to practice as many patterns as possible to I can develop a good muscle memory .. Currently its very poor as I haven't drilled this technique much..

I am slowing things down on metronome.. and know its not goin to happen overnight laugh.gif .. only looking for the most efficient path.. or lesson plan to master this technique.

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post Jan 1 2010, 02:03 PM
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Yea, just type 3 string sweeps, 2 string sweeps, speed picking into lesson search and your gonna find something, that you'll like. Regarding whats best exercise - just about anything on this site, its just - hundred people, hundred opinions.


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post Jan 1 2010, 02:05 PM
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QUOTE (Jakub Luptovec @ Jan 2 2010, 12:03 AM) *
Yea, just type 3 string sweeps, 2 string sweeps, speed picking into lesson search and your gonna find something, that you'll like. Regarding whats best exercise - just about anything on this site, its just - hundred people, hundred opinions.


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post Jan 1 2010, 07:11 PM
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these are some must-know patterns, imo:



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post Jan 1 2010, 07:16 PM
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I have bit more time now, so Ill tell you a bit more - to be succesful in technical soloing (I guess thats what you're after, melodic fast soloing with some shredding parts inside) you have to practice more separate areas:

- theory (starting with basic chords, triads, notes, intervals, then to minor and major pentatonic scale, then major scale, modes etc etc etc...)
- techniques - the playing itself (mostly alternate picking, some legato and tapping stuff and sweeps)
- stamina - mostly finger strength and dexterity
- metronome exercises (not everyone needs this.. some beginners heavily struggle with this tho...)
- vibrato and bending control - I am telling this separately, since this is extremely important. This divides the best and the rest..

maybe I forgot something.. but the point is, that you should think about that systematically and through that structure your practice - the best exercises then are those, which help you develop the most things at once - and with system you can clearly see what helps what. And that is key to good practice plan IMO smile.gif

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QUOTE (Daniel Realpe @ Jan 1 2010, 06:11 PM) *
these are some must-know patterns, imo:



I got this Yngwie Video for Christmas smile.gif) There is a brilliant section at the beginning with scale and arpeggio runs, Im going to get the pdf printed out and work some of them into my practise schedule in the coming week
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post Jan 2 2010, 12:05 AM
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QUOTE (Daniel Realpe @ Jan 2 2010, 05:11 AM) *
these are some must-know patterns, imo:


Thanks Daniel .. Yea, thats what I was talking about .. I wanna learn as many of such licks as possible..... but right now .. his slow version is my fast smile.gif

QUOTE (Jakub Luptovec @ Jan 2 2010, 05:16 AM) *
I have bit more time now, so Ill tell you a bit more - to be succesful in technical soloing (I guess thats what you're after, melodic fast soloing with some shredding parts inside) you have to practice more separate areas:

- theory (starting with basic chords, triads, notes, intervals, then to minor and major pentatonic scale, then major scale, modes etc etc etc...)
- techniques - the playing itself (mostly alternate picking, some legato and tapping stuff and sweeps)
- stamina - mostly finger strength and dexterity
- metronome exercises (not everyone needs this.. some beginners heavily struggle with this tho...)
- vibrato and bending control - I am telling this separately, since this is extremely important. This divides the best and the rest..

maybe I forgot something.. but the point is, that you should think about that systematically and through that structure your practice - the best exercises then are those, which help you develop the most things at once - and with system you can clearly see what helps what. And that is key to good practice plan IMO smile.gif


Jakub, thanks for the detailed reply .. much appreciated.. Thats what I've been doing .. Focussing on all of those techniques simultaneously and have incorporated appropriate lessons .. But i do admit my practice routine does not have any tapping lesson at the moment.. and I'm learning to sweep. I liked how you mentioned that the vibrato and bending control separates the best from the rest. Couldn't agree more with that.. Wanted to start with some 2-3 string arpegio picking and the pattern like Daniel posted as they can be very versatile in my own compositions too.. so basically wanna also build my lick vocabulary. It's easy how any of those things listed can slip off when one is practicing over a period of time, will certainly keep them in front of me.. Cheers...

Edit : Just broke to high E string sad.gif

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