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MirkoSchmidt
post Jan 2 2010, 09:23 PM
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Hey friend,
i have a problem and i want to know if somebody here has the same minds!

Im always hearing the new lessons! most of them sounds really great in my ears! then i choose some of then to practice. and there is the problem! when i finished the lessson i cant hear that tune for a half year or something like that, because i have to hear it so often to learn it!

thats the reason why i dont want to hear really great music for the next 10 years! (cryin, dont cry, sweet child, and many more).

is there anyone with the same problem or am i a freak? huh.gif

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post Jan 2 2010, 09:39 PM
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Hehe, this is funny, it happens to me too, when you practice something for a real long time !! you're really sick of listening it ! try practicing many lessons at the same time, moving from one to another, and give yourself a schedule, for example don't spend more than one week on a lesson, move to something else, and maybe come back to it later.

One last thing play lessons that correspond to your guitar skills, if you're trying something really hard, you'll spend lot of time trying to achieve it properly, you'll hate it !!

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post Jan 2 2010, 09:45 PM
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yeah it helps! thanks man! yeah, i was trying to finish some level 5 lessons, but they are far away from my skills so i have to finish practice them!

i was thinking about practicing more than one lesson the same time, nice to hear that it could be a good way to stay motivated! ( i was scared about something like: when you practice 5 lessons the same time, you dont practice one of them right!)

ok, i have 1 hour tonight to play guitar, i think im searching a level 3 lesson and rock like hell now! laugh.gif

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post Jan 2 2010, 09:55 PM
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QUOTE (MirkoSchmidt @ Jan 2 2010, 09:45 PM) *
yeah it helps! thanks man! yeah, i was trying to finish some level 5 lessons, but they are far away from my skills so i have to finish practice them!

i was thinking about practicing more than one lesson the same time, nice to hear that it could be a good way to stay motivated! ( i was scared about something like: when you practice 5 lessons the same time, you dont practice one of them right!)

ok, i have 1 hour tonight to play guitar, i think im searching a level 3 lesson and rock like hell now! laugh.gif


Hey man, You dont know what You're talkin bout.... come on when You have played "Der Eiermann" or "I just called to say I love You" some 500-600 times..... laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

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post Jan 2 2010, 10:03 PM
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why do you play that 600 times??????????????????????????????????????????????????????ßß


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post Jan 2 2010, 10:05 PM
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I enjoy the songs I can play even more when listening to them!

I play air guitar and sing the riffs along...

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post Jan 2 2010, 10:06 PM
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QUOTE (MirkoSchmidt @ Jan 2 2010, 10:03 PM) *
why do you play that 600 times??????????????????????????????????????????????????????ßß


I was working as a pro-musician for 15 years..... and if You shall play what the audience wants..... sad.gif
Well, I was quitting before I got insane.... tongue.gif

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post Jan 3 2010, 01:19 AM
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I can't get bored with great music tongue.gif If I can get tired of listening to something, it's not that great IMO

When I practice I try to listen to my playing and really concentrate on what I'm doing, then I don't get bored. And if I get bored on playing some exercise, or just playing in general, I take a break. Just as simple as that. Playing and practicing shouldn't be boring. You should always be wanting to play or practice when you are doing it, you shouldn't force yourself.
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post Jan 3 2010, 01:24 AM
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QUOTE (MirkoSchmidt @ Jan 3 2010, 07:23 AM) *
Hey friend,
i have a problem and i want to know if somebody here has the same minds!

Im always hearing the new lessons! most of them sounds really great in my ears! then i choose some of then to practice. and there is the problem! when i finished the lessson i cant hear that tune for a half year or something like that, because i have to hear it so often to learn it!

thats the reason why i dont want to hear really great music for the next 10 years! (cryin, dont cry, sweet child, and many more).

is there anyone with the same problem or am i a freak? huh.gif



You are not alone man .. I have exactly the same problem. This is especially true in terms of covers that have been drilled to an extent that if you hear that bend one more time, you'll probably pull your hair apart or punch a hole in the wall. This obviously goes away if you are performing these to an audience (thats what i experienced), coz then every experience is different and fun .. I am assuming you are not performing..

As for the lessons, it's not all a bad thing, coz you are moving on, taking the techniques you learned in it , over to the next lessson ... So no worries, if you dont remember the melody or the composition of the previous lesson but essential to take those techniques learned and apply them in future lessons.. smile.gif


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post Jan 3 2010, 06:09 AM
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Imagine bands like Iron Maiden that have been playing same songs for 20 years and still playing them. The more extreme example is Yngwie Malmsteen. Not only the same songs but the same 3 scales he knows smile.gif I bet they hate themselves for that but that still makes them popular smile.gif


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post Jan 3 2010, 12:28 PM
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QUOTE (Dexxter @ Jan 3 2010, 12:19 AM) *
I can't get bored with great music tongue.gif If I can get tired of listening to something, it's not that great IMO


My thoughts entirely. In fact, the better the music (although that's subjective), the more interested I become in playing it as I start to understand it more from a compositional perspective. Hence the reason I prefer music that's a bit "out there" i.e. unconventional instrument use, harmonic juxtapositions and contrapuntal voicings, and rhythmic displacement etc.
From a performance point of voice, I stave off the possibility of getting bored with a piece by aiming for perfection with each and every performance. Every time I play something, I want to play it better than the last time.


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post Jan 3 2010, 12:36 PM
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QUOTE (Emir Hot @ Jan 3 2010, 06:09 AM) *
Imagine bands like Iron Maiden that have been playing same songs for 20 years and still playing them. The more extreme example is Yngwie Malmsteen. Not only the same songs but the same 3 scales he knows smile.gif I bet they hate themselves for that but that still makes them popular smile.gif


Yeah, You are right bout that Emir, but at least they wrote the songs by themselves..... Maybe we shall post a new scale to Yngwie? (and some diet-tips) biggrin.gif

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post Jan 3 2010, 12:54 PM
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QUOTE (Staffy @ Jan 3 2010, 11:36 AM) *
Yeah, You are right bout that Emir, but at least they wrote the songs by themselves..... Maybe we shall post a new scale to Yngwie? (and some diet-tips) biggrin.gif

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Hahah. Everytime I watch that guy live I just can't believe that he never wanted to learn something new. Listen to albums 20 years ago and now, it's exactly the same.
Superlocrian mode would sound like a punishment for him smile.gif


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post Jan 3 2010, 01:37 PM
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Sry to hijack thread, but Emir is Superlocrian to Harmonic minor the same as locrian to aeolian? Just the next mode? If yes, then thats hillarious biggrin.gif:D

Btw. this happens to me a lot of times - I always said to myself "The day, Ill be able to play the sweeps from Psalm of lydia, Iľl be happy with my playing"... And am I? Not, not by far..


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post Jan 3 2010, 01:42 PM
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QUOTE (Jakub Luptovec @ Jan 3 2010, 12:37 PM) *
Sry to hijack thread, but Emir is Superlocrian to Harmonic minor the same as locrian to aeolian? Just the next mode? If yes, then thats hillarious biggrin.gif:D

Btw. this happens to me a lot of times - I always said to myself "The day, Ill be able to play the sweeps from Psalm of lydia, Iľl be happy with my playing"... And am I? Not, not by far..

No, Superlocrian is the last (7th) mode of Melodic Minor. Jazz guys use it non-stop. Btw the whole melodic minor scale is the one that Yngwie never touched smile.gif


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I never get bored playing same songs over and over again. Also if I don't play or listen to a song it goes out of my head pretty easily. But what I do hate is when I hear a ultra catchy song and when it sticks in my head for weeks - example : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4om1rQKPijI

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QUOTE (Emir Hot @ Jan 3 2010, 12:54 PM) *
Hahah. Everytime I watch that guy live I just can't believe that he never wanted to learn something new. Listen to albums 20 years ago and now, it's exactly the same.
Superlocrian mode would sound like a punishment for him smile.gif


Superlocrian to Yngwie? Nah, that will sound as John Scofield at speed and will hurt my ears seriously... laugh.gif
Better give him some arabic stuff and send him down there, since it is a market that still is open for him. (and at the same time there will be no releases here.... tongue.gif )

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QUOTE (Staffy @ Jan 3 2010, 01:07 PM) *
Superlocrian to Yngwie? Nah, that will sound as John Scofield at speed and will hurt my ears seriously... laugh.gif
Better give him some arabic stuff and send him down there, since it is a market that still is open for him. (and at the same time there will be no releases here.... tongue.gif )

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Hehe, I know what you mean. I wouldn't say I hate the songs I play, because I love them all, nut it's true that sometimes you can get tired of playing them over and over. Sadly it's the only way to get to play them perfect.

What I find is that the more songs I've learnt, the better because I can play many more different tracks on a practice session, and I don't get bored. The problem is that the more songs I can play, the more time I need to practice them all, because I'd hate to forget them laugh.gif


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