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Pedja Simovic
post Jan 3 2010, 10:14 PM
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Hello Robert,

We are continuing with our MTP in January where we left of in December. I hope you had good celebration for new years and extra couple days of, now its time to do some work. Your 1st assignment will be based on Triads lesson but this time you will do 2nd part of series.

1st assignment and REC :

- Triads in C major scale part 2

- Record video of Triads in C major scale part 2 lesson found HERE
- Use backing track provided in the thread when recording it.
- Try to apply left hand fingerings I applied but stick to right hand fingerings all the way.
- Upload video on Youtube and post it in this thread here.
- When you are done with video, post it in REC part of forum for grading!

Deadline for this assignment is January 10th.

Let me know if you have any questions!

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post Jan 5 2010, 11:27 AM
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Hello Pedja

Happy New Year to you. Hope 2010 will be a wonderfull year to you

I hope I can make the 10th I have a tight schedule at this moment.

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QUOTE (playaxeman @ Jan 5 2010, 11:27 AM) *
Hello Pedja

Happy New Year to you. Hope 2010 will be a wonderfull year to you

I hope I can make the 10th I have a tight schedule at this moment.

Cheers
Robert


Hello Robert,

Thank you my friend, all the best wishes for you in 2010.
If you will have hard time making the deadline we will extend it by day or two. Keep me updated with your situation.

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post Jan 5 2010, 04:33 PM
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Thx Pedja

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Great Robert, I will be waiting for your response...


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post Jan 9 2010, 05:53 PM
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QUOTE (Pedja Simovic @ Jan 5 2010, 10:59 PM) *
Great Robert, I will be waiting for your response...


Here is my rec Triads in Major scale 1e inversion



I will put this in the REC forum if you agree.
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Robert well done. You can go ahead and put it in REC with voting pool !


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Hi Pedja,

How 'r you doing?

I have done the REC with pool

Did I miss something, what will be the next assignment?

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post Jan 14 2010, 01:05 AM
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Robert you did not miss anything my friend, I am about to post all 2nd assignments including yours of course smile.gif


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post Jan 14 2010, 01:36 AM
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Robert we continue with your 2nd assignment for January. This assignment is sort of like an essay or written theory behind your current level of knowledge. This will help me totally understand where you are at right now. I will give you couple of topics from which you can choose one (or more if you want to!) and write me as many things as possible about it. The deadline for this assignment is 17th of January. Here are the topics for your 2nd assignment :

1) Tell me everything you know about major scale. Construction, intervals, harmony and everything else you feel I need to know.
2) Tell me everything you know about cadences in major scale and its modes. Use C major scale for explanations.
3) Tell me everything you know about major scale modes?
4) Tell me everything you know about modal harmony?
5) Tell me everything you know about pentatonic scales?
6) Tell me everything you know about chord tone and tension relationship with harmony ?
7) Tell me everything you know about natural/harmonic/melodic minor scale harmony?
8) Tell me everything you know about natural/harmonic/melodic minor modes and harmony?



Remember, pick one (or more if you can do it by deadline) and write me as much as possible on given subject. I want to read and understand how you approach and understand given material.
Deadline for this assignment is 3 days from now, 17th of January. Let me know if you have any questions!

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post Jan 17 2010, 03:31 PM
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QUOTE (Pedja Simovic @ Jan 14 2010, 01:36 AM) *
Robert we continue with your 2nd assignment for January. This assignment is sort of like an essay or written theory behind your current level of knowledge. This will help me totally understand where you are at right now. I will give you couple of topics from which you can choose one (or more if you want to!) and write me as many things as possible about it. The deadline for this assignment is 17th of January. Here are the topics for your 2nd assignment :

1) Tell me everything you know about major scale. Construction, intervals, harmony and everything else you feel I need to know.
2) Tell me everything you know about cadences in major scale and its modes. Use C major scale for explanations.
3) Tell me everything you know about major scale modes?
4) Tell me everything you know about modal harmony?
5) Tell me everything you know about pentatonic scales?
6) Tell me everything you know about chord tone and tension relationship with harmony ?
7) Tell me everything you know about natural/harmonic/melodic minor scale harmony?
8) Tell me everything you know about natural/harmonic/melodic minor modes and harmony?



Remember, pick one (or more if you can do it by deadline) and write me as much as possible on given subject. I want to read and understand how you approach and understand given material.
Deadline for this assignment is 3 days from now, 17th of January. Let me know if you have any questions!

Pedja


Hello Pedja

Here is my essay with all i know now.

Attached File  2nd_assignment_for_January_Pedja.doc ( 122.5K ) Number of downloads: 113


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post Jan 18 2010, 08:58 PM
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Hi Pedja

I also know about the pentatonic scale that is has 5 notes in it.
Therefore we have 5 positions to start the scale so there are 5 boxes.

There are minor and major pentatonic boxes.

The one I know are minor. I use them when I improvise because the sound good. Major I don't used very often.

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post Jan 22 2010, 07:36 PM
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Robert here are your remaining assignments for January. I have a feeling you will enjoy these a lot!

3rd assignment :

- Read Superimposing with Minor Pentatonics post HERE
- After reading the whole thing with related link posts, think about choosing one chord and one approach you will use for recording!

4th assignment :

- After you have chosen your approach, record a backing track with that chord and on top of that record yourself soloing with 1 or all 3 minor pentatonics corresponding with that mode!


Let me give you an example here. Lets say that you have chosen A minor as your chord. Now you also chose A minor to be treated as II (Dorian sounding). In that case you should play minor pentatonics from G major scale ( A , B and E minor pentatonics) over A min chord in the background. 4th assignment asks you only to pick 1 but it also allows you to use all 3 pentatonics if you want to.
Backing track doesn't have to be anything fancy for this purpose. Just guitar playing the chord will do, if you want to add bass and drums to that to make it sound tighter go ahead!

Deadline for these assignments is 31st of January! Let me know if you have any questions !

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post Jan 22 2010, 09:42 PM
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Hi Pedja

Just read about superimposing.

This theory is incredible. I just couldn't believe what I am reading. I have never knew this.

Thx for this great post.

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QUOTE (Pedja Simovic @ Jan 22 2010, 07:36 PM) *
Robert here are your remaining assignments for January. I have a feeling you will enjoy these a lot!

3rd assignment :

- Read Superimposing with Minor Pentatonics post HERE
- After reading the whole thing with related link posts, think about choosing one chord and one approach you will use for recording!

4th assignment :

- After you have chosen your approach, record a backing track with that chord and on top of that record yourself soloing with 1 or all 3 minor pentatonics corresponding with that mode!


Let me give you an example here. Lets say that you have chosen A minor as your chord. Now you also chose A minor to be treated as II (Dorian sounding). In that case you should play minor pentatonics from G major scale ( A , B and E minor pentatonics) over A min chord in the background. 4th assignment asks you only to pick 1 but it also allows you to use all 3 pentatonics if you want to.
Backing track doesn't have to be anything fancy for this purpose. Just guitar playing the chord will do, if you want to add bass and drums to that to make it sound tighter go ahead!

Deadline for these assignments is 31st of January! Let me know if you have any questions !

Pedja



He is just to recap this with the F scale and see Gm as I, II and VI degree

The F maj scale (F,G,A,Bb,C,D,E)

The minors are :
II= Gm  G pentatonic minor: G,Bb,C,D,F (1,b3,4,5,b7)
III=Am  A pentatonic minor: A,C,D,E,G (1,b3,4,5,b7)
VI=Dm  D pentatonic minor: D,F,G,A,C (1,b3,4,5,b7)

Look at Gm as II, III, VI:

Gm as II is F maj scale (F,G,A,Bb,C,D,E) = G Dorian = G,A,Bb,C,D,E,F

Gm as III is Eb scale (Eb,F,G,Ab,Bb,C,D ) = G Phrygian = G,Ab,Bb,C,D,Eb,F

Gm as VI is Bb maj scale(Bb,C,D,Eb,F,G,A) = G Aeolian = G,A,Bb,C,D,Eb,F

Gm comes from: F maj, Eb maj and Bb maj;

F maj scale (F,G,A,Bb,C,D,E)
II = Gm
III = Am
VI = Dm

Gm that sounds Dorian play GM, AM Dm pentatonic

Eb maj (Eb,F,G,Ab,Bb,C,D )
II=Fm
III Gm
VI=Dm

Gm that sounds G Phrygian play Fm, Gm and Dm pentatonic



Bb maj; (Bb,C,D,Eb,F,G,A)
II= Cm
III= Dm
VI= Gm

Gm that sounds G Aeolian play Cm, Dm and Gm pentatonic

I hope this is correct.

I have worked tjis out for Gm but does this theory also count for III (Am) and VI (Dm)?


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post Jan 23 2010, 03:45 AM
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QUOTE (playaxeman @ Jan 22 2010, 10:26 PM) *
He is just to recap this with the F scale and see Gm as I, II and VI degree

The F maj scale (F,G,A,Bb,C,D,E)

The minors are :
II= Gm  G pentatonic minor: G,Bb,C,D,F (1,b3,4,5,b7)
III=Am  A pentatonic minor: A,C,D,E,G (1,b3,4,5,b7)
VI=Dm  D pentatonic minor: D,F,G,A,C (1,b3,4,5,b7)

Look at Gm as II, III, VI:

Gm as II is F maj scale (F,G,A,Bb,C,D,E) = G Dorian = G,A,Bb,C,D,E,F

Gm as III is Eb scale (Eb,F,G,Ab,Bb,C,D ) = G Phrygian = G,Ab,Bb,C,D,Eb,F

Gm as VI is Bb maj scale(Bb,C,D,Eb,F,G,A) = G Aeolian = G,A,Bb,C,D,Eb,F

Gm comes from: F maj, Eb maj and Bb maj;

F maj scale (F,G,A,Bb,C,D,E)
II = Gm
III = Am
VI = Dm

Gm that sounds Dorian play GM, AM Dm pentatonic

Eb maj (Eb,F,G,Ab,Bb,C,D )
II=Fm
III Gm
VI=Dm

Gm that sounds G Phrygian play Fm, Gm and Dm pentatonic



Bb maj; (Bb,C,D,Eb,F,G,A)
II= Cm
III= Dm
VI= Gm

Gm that sounds G Aeolian play Cm, Dm and Gm pentatonic

I hope this is correct.

I have worked tjis out for Gm but does this theory also count for III (Am) and VI (Dm)?


Robert VI in Eb major is C minor not D minor. Also you are right regarding last question. This Superimposing applies to all chords in major scale not just II but also III VI minors as well as I IV V majors!


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post Jan 23 2010, 10:57 AM
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QUOTE (Pedja Simovic @ Jan 23 2010, 03:45 AM) *
Robert VI in Eb major is C minor not D minor. Also you are right regarding last question. This Superimposing applies to all chords in major scale not just II but also III VI minors as well as I IV V majors!


Hello Pedja

I agree on the Cm.

Ok I will work it out for the III and VI minor and the I-IV-V Majors

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QUOTE (playaxeman @ Jan 23 2010, 10:57 AM) *
Hello Pedja

I agree on the Cm.

Ok I will work it out for the III and VI minor and the I-IV-V Majors

Cheers
Robert


Great Robert. Make sure you pick one minor chord, record it then pick its function. After doing that choose one minor pentatonic you will superimpose with, record a solo and you are all set smile.gif


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QUOTE (Pedja Simovic @ Jan 22 2010, 07:36 PM) *
Robert here are your remaining assignments for January. I have a feeling you will enjoy these a lot!

3rd assignment :

- Read Superimposing with Minor Pentatonics post HERE
- After reading the whole thing with related link posts, think about choosing one chord and one approach you will use for recording!

4th assignment :

- After you have chosen your approach, record a backing track with that chord and on top of that record yourself soloing with 1 or all 3 minor pentatonics corresponding with that mode!


Let me give you an example here. Lets say that you have chosen A minor as your chord. Now you also chose A minor to be treated as II (Dorian sounding). In that case you should play minor pentatonics from G major scale ( A , B and E minor pentatonics) over A min chord in the background. 4th assignment asks you only to pick 1 but it also allows you to use all 3 pentatonics if you want to.
Backing track doesn't have to be anything fancy for this purpose. Just guitar playing the chord will do, if you want to add bass and drums to that to make it sound tighter go ahead!

Deadline for these assignments is 31st of January! Let me know if you have any questions !

Pedja


Hi thee Pedja

Hope you are okay.


He is my track. It is in C#min Attached File  mtp_jan_last_assignment_superimposing_.MP3 ( 5.65MB ) Number of downloads: 91


I used F#min pentat, G#min & C# min pentatonic because the backing has 3 parts



C#min is I II en VI in
II: Bmaj.
In bmaj the minors are: C#, D#, G#

III:Amaj
In Amaj the minor are B,C#, F#

VI : Emaj
In E maj the minor ars F#, G# C#

I started with kinda complicated backing "save the planet" I made today. But it was impossible to solo over for me, it was to diffycult. So i had to start over and I made the backing in C#min
Here is that backing. I didn't use: Attached File  Backing_MTP_Jan_2010_Save_the_planet_take_2.MP3 ( 4.63MB ) Number of downloads: 115



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QUOTE (playaxeman @ Jan 30 2010, 11:57 PM) *
Hi thee Pedja

Hope you are okay.


He is my track. It is in C#min Attached File  mtp_jan_last_assignment_superimposing_.MP3 ( 5.65MB ) Number of downloads: 91


I used F#min pentat, G#min & C# min pentatonic because the backing has 3 parts



C#min is I II en VI in
II: Bmaj.
In bmaj the minors are: C#, D#, G#

III:Amaj
In Amaj the minor are B,C#, F#

VI : Emaj
In E maj the minor ars F#, G# C#

I started with kinda complicated backing "save the planet" I made today. But it was impossible to solo over for me, it was to diffycult. So i had to start over and I made the backing in C#min
Here is that backing. I didn't use: Attached File  Backing_MTP_Jan_2010_Save_the_planet_take_2.MP3 ( 4.63MB ) Number of downloads: 115


Hi Robert,

This sounds great really. I enjoy the backing track and your playing sounds great with superimposing choices. I am very glad you did this. I hope you can take 2nd "save the planet" complicated backing and make something from it in the near future.


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