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post Jan 9 2010, 10:58 PM
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QUOTE (Lester @ Jan 9 2010, 10:27 PM) *
Hi jerry,

I was trying to make my backingtrack, but I didn't manage.
I started of with learning all the boxes fluently, didn't start with the backing track yet and now it turns out I don't know how to use ezdrummer.
I tried to import it in cubase, all the forums say I need to upload it in VST instrument, problem is: I can't find that option in my cubase (LE4)
Can you make me a drumtrack? then I'll try to upload my improv tommorow.


Sure, I will do the backing in the next minutes. On the other side, I'm using EZdrummer too for my backing tracks. We can discuss your problems via PM if you still need some help in the future - let's keep this thread mainly around your progress!


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Here's the backing!

Attached File  G7M_backing___110bpm.mp3 ( 1.25MB ) Number of downloads: 153


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post Jan 17 2010, 05:01 PM
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Hi Jerry,

At last it's finished, my improv in G7M:



There are a few sloppy runs here & there, but I'm not that experienced in improvising yet, so I left them in so it remains an improvisation smile.gif

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Yeah, this is exactly what we needed!
Some opinions and considerations here and there...
- try to play more legato, at least sometimes biggrin.gif
- this video shows that you know different boxes, and this was our main goal. Well done wink.gif
- don't worry about "sloppy" playing here, this is a parameter which really means nothing, for this assignment.
- the next goal is to improvise connecting various "ideas". As "idea" I mean that if you play a lick in the middle of your solo, this lick should have a connection with the previous and the next one, if you know what I mean.
- you can steal "ideas" ( = licks ) from different players, as much as you can. It's a very important step while learning Jazz improvisation. Once you have memorized a lick, you can play more variations of it, adapting that lick in your current context. We'll see some specific exercises about this topic. In other words, you need to build your own vocabulary. Jazz is a language and you need to learn how to build phrases.

Ok, I will back to you with the next backing and assignment tonight!


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post Jan 18 2010, 12:02 AM
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QUOTE (Jerry Arcidiacono @ Jan 17 2010, 09:22 PM) *
Yeah, this is exactly what we needed!
Some opinions and considerations here and there...
- try to play more legato, at least sometimes biggrin.gif
- this video shows that you know different boxes, and this was our main goal. Well done wink.gif
- don't worry about "sloppy" playing here, this is a parameter which really means nothing, for this assignment.
- the next goal is to improvise connecting various "ideas". As "idea" I mean that if you play a lick in the middle of your solo, this lick should have a connection with the previous and the next one, if you know what I mean.
- you can steal "ideas" ( = licks ) from different players, as much as you can. It's a very important step while learning Jazz improvisation. Once you have memorized a lick, you can play more variations of it, adapting that lick in your current context. We'll see some specific exercises about this topic. In other words, you need to build your own vocabulary. Jazz is a language and you need to learn how to build phrases.

Ok, I will back to you with the next backing and assignment tonight!


Allright! I'll think of legato.
I think I will like the "idea" thing more, then you can develop something. I'll try to steal something here & there. smile.gif
Oh, you won't believe this: somebody actually rated my improv with 5 stars on youtube blink.gif
Crazy! laugh.gif
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QUOTE (Lester @ Jan 18 2010, 12:02 AM) *
Allright! I'll think of legato.
I think I will like the "idea" thing more, then you can develop something. I'll try to steal something here & there. smile.gif
Oh, you won't believe this: somebody actually rated my improv with 5 stars on youtube blink.gif
Crazy! laugh.gif


Don't know if he/she is crazy or not!
By the way, I don't have a YouTube account biggrin.gif


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Here's the backing for the second assignement.

Attached File  A_Dorian_backing___110bpm.mp3 ( 1.2MB ) Number of downloads: 121


You should improvise using the same boxes but now you should think about A Dorian.
The backing has the same groove of the previous one, but the electric piano is doing a comping with Bm7 and Am7 chords... a very Dorian one biggrin.gif
The Dorian mode is quite simple to use. There aren't any "avoid" notes. Have fun and if everything is ok with your gear, let's set a deadline on January 20. We are a bit late!



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post Jan 18 2010, 09:44 AM
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QUOTE (Jerry Arcidiacono @ Jan 18 2010, 02:03 AM) *
Here's the backing for the second assignement.

Attached File  A_Dorian_backing___110bpm.mp3 ( 1.2MB ) Number of downloads: 121


You should improvise using the same boxes but now you should think about A Dorian.
The backing has the same groove of the previous one, but the electric piano is doing a comping with Bm7 and Am7 chords... a very Dorian one biggrin.gif
The Dorian mode is quite simple to use. There aren't any "avoid" notes. Have fun and if everything is ok with your gear, let's set a deadline on January 20. We are a bit late!


allright. I'll try to make that deadline.
But, A Dorian is the same as the G Ionian I used last time, right?

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QUOTE (Lester @ Jan 18 2010, 09:44 AM) *
allright. I'll try to make that deadline.
But, A Dorian is the same as the G Ionian I used last time, right?


Yeah, they share the same set of notes but it's really important to underline some notes while playing G Ionian instead of A Dorian and viceversa.
You know, while you're improvising over a G7M chord, if you start/end your lick with a note of this chord (G-B-D-F#), it sounds good. To underline the Dorian sound you should play the notes of Am7 (A-C-E-G) plus the F# note which makes the difference between A Dorian and A Natural Minor/Aeolian.
Imagine a rock context with a simple A5 chord on the backing. What do you want to use to improvise over this chord? A Minor Pentatonic?? Naaaah... ohmy.gif It still sounds good, I'm joking of course biggrin.gif
BUT... you have many scales to use to improvise over an harmony which is built over only 2 notes (A-E), the A5 chord.
So, if you play notes from this sequence, A-B-C-D-E-F-G your solo will sound Aeolian.
If you play notes from A-B-C-D-E-F#-G your solo will sound Dorian. Pretty magic, don't you think?!? biggrin.gif


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QUOTE (Jerry Arcidiacono @ Jan 18 2010, 10:11 AM) *
Yeah, they share the same set of notes but it's really important to underline some notes while playing G Ionian instead of A Dorian and viceversa.
You know, while you're improvising over a G7M chord, if you start/end your lick with a note of this chord (G-B-D-F#), it sounds good. To underline the Dorian sound you should play the notes of Am7 (A-C-E-G) plus the F# note which makes the difference between A Dorian and A Natural Minor/Aeolian.
Imagine a rock context with a simple A5 chord on the backing. What do you want to use to improvise over this chord? A Minor Pentatonic?? Naaaah... ohmy.gif It still sounds good, I'm joking of course biggrin.gif
BUT... you have many scales to use to improvise over an harmony which is built over only 2 notes (A-E), the A5 chord.
So, if you play notes from this sequence, A-B-C-D-E-F-G your solo will sound Aeolian.
If you play notes from A-B-C-D-E-F#-G your solo will sound Dorian. Pretty magic, don't you think?!? biggrin.gif


Magic indeed...I'm dazzling tongue.gif
So, actually it's just moving the root notes? I never thought of ending a lick with the notes of the chord, I just always made sure that I ended on the root note.
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QUOTE (Lester @ Jan 18 2010, 09:12 PM) *
Magic indeed...I'm dazzling tongue.gif
So, actually it's just moving the root notes? I never thought of ending a lick with the notes of the chord, I just always made sure that I ended on the root note.


There are different ways and solutions to improvise, of course. Don't think about rigid rules or even "play everything you want".
The point is to being aware of what you're playing. You can improvise using chord tones (notes from the current chord) or even with some passing notes (chromatics or not) or with tensions. As example, you can end your lick over a C7M chord with a D note. This D note will give you a C7M9 sound (here C7M9 is C-E-G-B-D, sometimes written Cmaj9).
Do you like the sound of C7M9? If yes, you can use this little trick instead of finish your lick with a C note... wink.gif


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QUOTE (Jerry Arcidiacono @ Jan 19 2010, 12:02 AM) *
There are different ways and solutions to improvise, of course. Don't think about rigid rules or even "play everything you want".
The point is to being aware of what you're playing. You can improvise using chord tones (notes from the current chord) or even with some passing notes (chromatics or not) or with tensions. As example, you can end your lick over a C7M chord with a D note. This D note will give you a C7M9 sound (here C7M9 is C-E-G-B-D, sometimes written Cmaj9).
Do you like the sound of C7M9? If yes, you can use this little trick instead of finish your lick with a C note... wink.gif


allright, I get it.
I'll just make some description of my solo explaining what I am doing. I think that's the best way to analyze the solo....
Thanks for the explanation! smile.gif
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QUOTE (Lester @ Jan 19 2010, 08:10 AM) *
allright, I get it.
I'll just make some description of my solo explaining what I am doing. I think that's the best way to analyze the solo....
Thanks for the explanation! smile.gif


Yeah, if you have some time, try to do the same thing with some solos of other musicians. As example, what Miles played on So what at the beginning of his solo, is a must.


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Hi jerry,

my solo is done, it's still wednesday, but probably not anymore when I'm done writing this post... tongue.gif

Here it is:Attached File  A_dorian_solo.wma ( 3.38MB ) Number of downloads: 65


It's an audio file, I couldn't do video because my father needed his laptop wen I wanted to record, I use his for videos.

I included a word file, which explains the licks in the solo.

here it is: Attached File  modes_with_solo_Dorian.doc ( 38.5K ) Number of downloads: 129


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QUOTE (Lester @ Jan 21 2010, 12:24 AM) *
Hi jerry,

my solo is done, it's still wednesday, but probably not anymore when I'm done writing this post... tongue.gif

Here it is:Attached File  A_dorian_solo.wma ( 3.38MB ) Number of downloads: 65


It's an audio file, I couldn't do video because my father needed his laptop wen I wanted to record, I use his for videos.
https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_fo...195&t=33014
I included a word file, which explains the licks in the solo.

here it is: Attached File  modes_with_solo_Dorian.doc ( 38.5K ) Number of downloads: 129


Cheers!


Ok, I liked the explanations on the Word file but I think you can do a better job with your recording.
I'm not sure about your timing with this take. Maybe it can be some latency problem with your gear. You know, you play and record something and when you play it from the beginning, your take is out of time with the backing. It happened to me in the past with some bad-old-integrated audio interfaces biggrin.gif
Can you please write your licks using Guitar Pro, Tuxguitar, Power Tab or everything I can see?
In this way, it's not necessary to re-record your take. I need to understand the rhythm figures you want to use with your licks.
When you have some experience it's a good and funny game to play some notes before or after the beat, especially if you're playing with some other experienced musicians. For now, let's keep things simple biggrin.gif

Next assignment!
Improvise using the B Phrygian scale.
The Phrygian mode, as you know, can sound good over the chord built on the 3rd degree of a major scale.
But... with the first backing you can experiment a little and you will hear how the minor 6th of B (G note) sound a little dissonant over the Bm7 chord. This backing is made to show you the modal sound of the chord+scale.
If you have a Bm7 chord in a tonal context, as example G7M | Am7 | Bm7 | D7, you can think "G Major scale" all the time or even a mode for each chord. But if you use a G over the Bm7 chord, this is usually a passing note.

On the second backing you can play with more freedom. Instead of Bm7, I used a Bsusb9 chord (Guitar Pro calls this B7sus4add9-) built from B-E-F#-A-C. E is the sus4, while C is the b9 or 9-. Please check the difference about the length of B7sus4add9- string and Bsusb9 biggrin.gif
This is a chord where the Phrygian scale can played without problems. If you can grab a keyboard or a piano I really suggest to you to experiment a little, playing triads and other more complex chords. It really helps to understand the harmony since you can "see" the notes with some order. Playing chords on guitar can be confusing sometimes because, as guitarists, we play some voicings which are comfortable over the neck, but it's pretty hard to understand what is going on at the beginning!

Attached File  B_Phrygian_backing__C7M___Bm7_.mp3 ( 1.2MB ) Number of downloads: 129


Attached File  B_Phrygian_backing__C7M___Bsusb9_.mp3 ( 1.2MB ) Number of downloads: 126


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QUOTE (Jerry Arcidiacono @ Jan 21 2010, 10:55 AM) *
Ok, I liked the explanations on the Word file but I think you can do a better job with your recording.
I'm not sure about your timing with this take. Maybe it can be some latency problem with your gear. You know, you play and record something and when you play it from the beginning, your take is out of time with the backing. It happened to me in the past with some bad-old-integrated audio interfaces biggrin.gif
Can you please write your licks using Guitar Pro, Tuxguitar, Power Tab or everything I can see?
In this way, it's not necessary to re-record your take. I need to understand the rhythm figures you want to use with your licks.
When you have some experience it's a good and funny game to play some notes before or after the beat, especially if you're playing with some other experienced musicians. For now, let's keep things simple biggrin.gif

Next assignment!
Improvise using the B Phrygian scale.
The Phrygian mode, as you know, can sound good over the chord built on the 3rd degree of a major scale.
But... with the first backing you can experiment a little and you will hear how the minor 6th of B (G note) sound a little dissonant over the Bm7 chord. This backing is made to show you the modal sound of the chord+scale.
If you have a Bm7 chord in a tonal context, as example G7M | Am7 | Bm7 | D7, you can think "G Major scale" all the time or even a mode for each chord. But if you use a G over the Bm7 chord, this is usually a passing note.

On the second backing you can play with more freedom. Instead of Bm7, I used a Bsusb9 chord (Guitar Pro calls this B7sus4add9-) built from B-E-F#-A-C. E is the sus4, while C is the b9 or 9-. Please check the difference about the length of B7sus4add9- string and Bsusb9 biggrin.gif
This is a chord where the Phrygian scale can played without problems. If you can grab a keyboard or a piano I really suggest to you to experiment a little, playing triads and other more complex chords. It really helps to understand the harmony since you can "see" the notes with some order. Playing chords on guitar can be confusing sometimes because, as guitarists, we play some voicings which are comfortable over the neck, but it's pretty hard to understand what is going on at the beginning!

Attached File  B_Phrygian_backing__C7M___Bm7_.mp3 ( 1.2MB ) Number of downloads: 129


Attached File  B_Phrygian_backing__C7M___Bsusb9_.mp3 ( 1.2MB ) Number of downloads: 126


Allright, I have a keyboard, so I'll try and see what it's like on the keyboard.
About the timing: it can be that the timing is a bit strange.... It's because I came up with licks without listening to the backingtrack. when I tried to play them over the backing I had to adjust the timing a lot...
I'll use the backing from the beginging next time. Actually. I wasn't too happy with it myself either smile.gif

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QUOTE (Lester @ Jan 21 2010, 03:03 PM) *
Allright, I have a keyboard, so I'll try and see what it's like on the keyboard.
About the timing: it can be that the timing is a bit strange.... It's because I came up with licks without listening to the backingtrack. when I tried to play them over the backing I had to adjust the timing a lot...
I'll use the backing from the beginging next time. Actually. I wasn't too happy with it myself either smile.gif


Ok about the backing tracks!
Let me know how things are going with the REC since we are near the end of month.


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post Jan 21 2010, 10:38 PM
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QUOTE (Jerry Arcidiacono @ Jan 21 2010, 09:19 PM) *
Ok about the backing tracks!
Let me know how things are going with the REC since we are near the end of month.


Yeah, I really hope I will make it, (means pass on the REC), I find this piece pretty hard...
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Ok, we should set a deadline for the Phrygian impro. What about January 24?


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QUOTE (Jerry Arcidiacono @ Jan 21 2010, 10:49 PM) *
Ok, we should set a deadline for the Phrygian impro. What about January 24?


The 24th will be hard. I can't do anything at all this weekend... because of concerts, reharshalls and more reharshalls..
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