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PKJperson
post Mar 29 2007, 07:50 AM
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Hello,
I have never used this forum before but I had a question about vibrato and thought I could find some help here. It is much easier for me to do a vibrato by bending the string down and then back rather than bending it down then up and so on. Is it acceptable to do it this way or do I just need to practice the other way more. There is probably a lesson on this subject but I couldn't find it so I thought I would leave a post. Any help is much appreciated. Thanks! smile.gif
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post Mar 29 2007, 09:32 AM
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There is difference between BENDING and VIBRATO. From what i understood you were talking about bending. Vibrato sounds like a lot of small - fast or slow - bends(very very small bends), but can also be achieved different ways. Some guitarists do it from their elbow, i like to do it as Vai with only the index finger.

It would be great if you could record a small video of you vibrating so we can see what you are doing wrong and help you! The quality is not important, just to let us see it.

I wanted to tell this to all of you GMC-ers! If you have doubts about technique - the best way to make it a good discussion is to record a small video for us to see your problem. That way we can give constructive answer and go straight to the point!


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post Mar 30 2007, 01:21 AM
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Sorry, A video would be helpful but I don't have anything to record one with right now, lol.

I thought that one correct way was to do a bunch of small bends like this: bend up - back to normal position - bend down- back to normal position - bend up - back to normal position - bend down etc. The way that I do it (because it is easier for me) and I was wondering if this way is okay is like this: bend down - back to original position - bend down - and so on.

Basically I was wondering if it is okay to do vibrato by bending in one direction rather than both directions. lol, I'm not so great at explaining this, hopefully someone understands what I mean. thanks for the help.
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post Mar 30 2007, 01:35 AM
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QUOTE (PKJperson @ Mar 29 2007, 08:21 PM) *
Sorry, A video would be helpful but I don't have anything to record one with right now, lol.

I thought that one correct way was to do a bunch of small bends like this: bend up - back to normal position - bend down- back to normal position - bend up - back to normal position - bend down etc. The way that I do it (because it is easier for me) and I was wondering if this way is okay is like this: bend down - back to original position - bend down - and so on.

Basically I was wondering if it is okay to do vibrato by bending in one direction rather than both directions. lol, I'm not so great at explaining this, hopefully someone understands what I mean. thanks for the help.


As Pavel says, don't confuse the bending with the vibrato - they are 2 seperate but related techniques. It works like this (and I know I am stating the obvious but bear with me!):

A bend is a movement of the string up or down to force it to a new note.

Vibrato is smaller movements of the string such that the pitch varies from the note to slightly above the note you are playing.

Vibrato on a bend is putting the two together - you bend up to the note, and then bend a little more, then relax back to the original bent position, then bend a little more and so on.

Bends can go in either direction - you can't easily bend downwards on the 2 highest(by pitch) strings, likewise you can't easily bend up on the 2 lowest (by pitch) strings - as the string goes off the edge of the fretboard.

So vibrato on an unbent note is like doing a series of small bends and releases like you said, and like bends you can go either up or down. If you want a more aggressive vibrato you usually do move the unbent string both up and down in turn, but only for the strings that can take movement both ways - the G and D strings are easiest, with the rest you need to be careful not to pull then past the edge of the fretboard.

When you are putting vibrato on a bent string you usually bend it further the way you were already bending (or else you get a decrease in pitch instead of an increase, which is still technically vibrato but not the usual technique)

So I guess after all that, the answer is yes, you can do vibrato just by bending in one direction if you want to, but both directions for an unbent string will get you the very best vibrato smile.gif

Does that help?

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post Mar 30 2007, 02:23 AM
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Thanks for the help guys. I didn't explain well at all lol.

Yes that does answers my question. The best vibrato sound will come from an up and down movement. Also that helped a lot on the vibrato on a bent string. I wasn't shure which way you were supposed to bend. I guess it makes sense to bend to a higher pitch.

This was probably too big of a conversation for such a small question lol. Next time I will try to get a video. thanks smile.gif
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post Mar 30 2007, 09:35 PM
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QUOTE (Andrew Cockburn @ Mar 29 2007, 08:35 PM) *
If you want a more aggressive vibrato you usually do move the unbent string both up and down in turn, but only for the strings that can take movement both ways -


This is funny. I've been practicing playing the beginning of "For the Love of God" by Steve Vai, and if you are familar with it, the second time he goes through the part, its an agressive vibrato. Listening to it, I thought he was playing it differently, but its the same position, just with a lot of vibrato, and that makes a HUGH difference.

Anyways, I really got agressive with the vibrato last night, and really like how it sounded. I don't think that up to that point in my guitar playing life that I really used vibrato like that. I was kind of being to soft before, but being more agressive makes a big difference.
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