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post Jan 24 2010, 08:14 AM
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I'm building a warmoth strat and had a question regarding the pickup selector. I noticed that on a 5 way switch I rarely ever use the pickup combination 2 and 4. Would it be possible to install a 3 way switch like on humbucker guitars? Or would I only be limiting myself with my pickups? Thanks in advance


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post Jan 24 2010, 05:40 PM
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If you don't need the positions 2 and 4 then use a threeway switch. It's pretty much the same as installing a 5way, well a little easier even because the connection is abit simpler...


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post Jan 24 2010, 06:14 PM
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All Strats originally had 3-way switches. Some players found that they could wedge the switch between positions and get an 'out of phase' sound. Leo then started installing 5-way switches and reverse winding the centre Pick-up to cancel the 'hum' in the 2 new switch positions! There's no reason why you can't install whatever switching you want!!
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post Jan 24 2010, 06:18 PM
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QUOTE (Sensible Jones @ Jan 24 2010, 10:14 AM) *
All Strats originally had 3-way switches. Some players found that they could wedge the switch between positions and get an 'out of phase' sound. Leo then started installing 5-way switches and reverse winding the centre Pick-up to cancel the 'hum' in the 2 new switch positions! There's no reason why you can't install whatever switching you want!!
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post Jan 25 2010, 01:14 AM
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You can install 3 way switch, but I recommend that you install 5 way one. It won't hurt wink.gif


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post Jan 25 2010, 01:32 AM
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You should use a 5 way switch .... The neck/middle combination produce pretty cool tone.


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post Jan 27 2010, 01:55 AM
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Thanks for the information and suggestions! Now, I have a very serious decision to make! biggrin.gif


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post Jan 27 2010, 02:52 AM
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I think 5 way is probably the way to go, but keep in mind of course that with the 5 way you can't get the bridge and neck together, like a les paul or tele. Though there are blend knobs and things that can be done I think.


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post Jan 27 2010, 03:40 AM
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Yep they use to sell them all with 3 way... Leo didn't expect that players would want more choices. But as technology quickly advanced ( and recordings and amps better represented the tones of guitars) the players wanted more tonal options...well Leo went five way. Interesting bit of info... it is the same switch (the 5 and the 3 way) it's just the 5 way has a broad "head" and 2 more stops on the way to allow what others were saying about placing the switch "in between positions" . That is why the twos witches look identical if you place them side by side. By the way my 2009 Strat came with a 3 way switch... huh.gif and I'm kinda modern so I'm looking at throwing a Push/pull and a 5 way switch in to give me more sounds. I do recommend that you play with it for a bit before youss wap it out... just to make sure you don't want to keep some of those tones... but if not, tear it out laugh.gif You can always put it back in. I will say also that one of the reasons that I love Strat is that I feel like they are great guitars to "hot rod". A les Paul I would be less likely to take apart and rebuild... but that's just me cool.gif


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post Jan 27 2010, 04:22 AM
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QUOTE (JVM @ Jan 26 2010, 07:52 PM) *
I think 5 way is probably the way to go, but keep in mind of course that with the 5 way you can't get the bridge and neck together, like a les paul or tele. Though there are blend knobs and things that can be done I think.


I'm not sure this is true. Vigier wires exactly this option you describe into position 3 of a 5-way switch. I just happened across it earlier today, oddly enough.

Quoted from that "Excalibur Original" page (and all the others like it):

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Pickup brand name: Seymour Duncan
Type of pickup: H/S/H
Pickup model: SH5/SSL6/TB5 More informations?
Switch: 5 positions
Controls: Volume
Tone
Pickup selector:
1 Humbucker in neck position
2 Single-coil in neck & middle position
3 Single-coil in neck & bridge position
4 Single-coil in bridge & middle position
5 Humbucker in bridge position
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post Jan 27 2010, 06:55 AM
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QUOTE (jafomatic @ Jan 26 2010, 10:22 PM) *
I'm not sure this is true. Vigier wires exactly this option you describe into position 3 of a 5-way switch. I just happened across it earlier today, oddly enough.

Quoted from that "Excalibur Original" page (and all the others like it):


You're right, I actually phrased that kind of strangely anyway. As far as I know you can't get neck+bridge on a three way switch either, unless you either have no middle pickup, or a specially wired setup like the vigier one. I've also seen some custom shop fender that had a blend knob that mixed the bridge and neck of a strat somehow.

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Pretty cool wiring. I've always wanted to use that wiring with a seymour duncan p rails in the bridge.

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post Feb 10 2010, 05:34 PM
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second position can be really good for funk riffs


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