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Pedja Simovic
post Feb 7 2010, 08:08 PM
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Hi JVM,

We continue now with our work for February. For first 2 assignments I have decided to continue with superimposing with minor pentatonics only this time you will have to read the thread about major chords and record some superimposing with minor pentatonics over major type chords.

Here is your 1st and 2nd assignment

1st assignment :

- Read Superimposing with Minor Pentatonics over Major type chords post HERE
- After reading the whole thing with related link posts, think about choosing one chord and one approach you will use for recording!

2nd assignment :

- After you have chosen your approach, record a backing track with that chord and on top of that record yourself soloing with 1 or all 3 minor pentatonics corresponding with that mode!

Let me give you an example here. Lets say that you have chosen C major as your chord. Now you also chose C major to be treated as I (Ionian sounding). In that case you should play minor pentatonics from C major scale ( D ,E and A minor pentatonics) over C major chord in the background. 4th assignment asks you only to pick 1 but it also allows you to use all 3 pentatonics if you want to.
Backing track doesn't have to be anything fancy for this purpose. Just guitar playing the chord will do, if you want to add bass and drums to that to make it sound tighter go ahead!


Deadline for first two assignments is 14th of February.

Let me know if you have any questions.


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post Feb 8 2010, 07:46 PM
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Cool. This makes me wonder that major pentatonics probably work in the same way, but on scale degrees I IV V. Is that right? So if I have a Dm chord for example, and I want it to be aeolian sounding, I could play major pentatonics of F major scale, being F major, A# (or Bb?) major and C major? Am I on the right track?

Also, in the last thread you mentioned I needed to work on getting the pentatonic sound. I'm doing several pentatonic lessons which I'll post to the REC. Do you have any other advice for getting the pentatonic sound vs. diatonic?


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post Feb 8 2010, 07:56 PM
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QUOTE (JVM @ Feb 8 2010, 07:46 PM) *
Cool. This makes me wonder that major pentatonics probably work in the same way, but on scale degrees I IV V. Is that right? So if I have a Dm chord for example, and I want it to be aeolian sounding, I could play major pentatonics of F major scale, being F major, A# (or Bb?) major and C major? Am I on the right track?

Also, in the last thread you mentioned I needed to work on getting the pentatonic sound. I'm doing several pentatonic lessons which I'll post to the REC. Do you have any other advice for getting the pentatonic sound vs. diatonic?


That is correct! Major pentatonics are related to minor pentatonics. So you get major pentatonics on I IV V scale degrees while minor are at II III and VI (just like 3 parts chords). Just typo on your analysis, in key of F we have Bb not A# (key has one flat which is actually Bb).

I recommend you work with last and these future assignments. They should really help you most to get pentatonic sounding lines vs diatonic context.


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post Feb 15 2010, 03:40 AM
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Hey Pedja, I chose A major as V, and played with A major/A7 a bit for the backing chord, hope thats okay. Did some basic stuff with Em, F#m and Bm pentatonics. Here it is:

Attached File  superimposing.mp3 ( 840.48K ) Number of downloads: 127


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post Feb 19 2010, 03:39 PM
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JVM we continue with your remaining assignments for February. We have 3rd, 4th and REC assignment to cover.

3rd assignment and REC :

- Record Triads in a major scale series part 3 lesson found HERE
- Once you are done with video recording, upload it in REC part of forum for grading. Make sure that you include voting pool.

4th assignment :

- Record backing track using two random chords!
- Chords could have the same quality (two major chords for example) or different quality ( minor and then major chord).
- Chords don't have to be diatonic ( in other words you could record C and Eb major chords in backing track!)
- Over these chords, solo using superimposing with minor pentatonics!
- Once you recorded your solo, upload it in this thread.

For example... I choose to record two chords that have same quality, major chords. First chord is C major while second is Eb major. Duration is the same for both of the chords. Now what I need to do is decide what I want my C major and Eb major to sound like. I decide that I want C major to sound like Ionian, so I pick E minor pentatonic to solo over. In other case I choose my Eb major to sound like Mixolyidian, so I pick Bb minor pentatonic to superimpose over it. Now I record a solo using E minor and Bb minor pentatonics over C major and Eb major chords. The duration of solo is your choice!

Let me know if you have any questions.

Deadline for these assignments is 28th of February !


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post Feb 20 2010, 08:06 PM
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Got it. Hope you're feeling better (ooh, thats a good santana song)!


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post Feb 20 2010, 08:20 PM
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QUOTE (JVM @ Feb 20 2010, 08:06 PM) *
Got it. Hope you're feeling better (ooh, thats a good santana song)!


Its been up and down for past week or so but I hope it will be normal soon - thank you my friend.


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post Feb 28 2010, 09:01 PM
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Hi Pedja, I hope this will do for assignment #4, I will turn in the rec a little bit later today. For this superimposing, I used Cmajor (along with a looped melody, both making use of new inversions you've taught me, a lot of fun they are smile.gif ) and G minor chord. I tried to use A minor for the C to give an ionian feel, and A major on the Gm to give a dorian feel. In the second case of the Gminor chord I think I stumbled a bit, and I think I'm maybe a little out of time in some spots (due to using the metronome instead of a drum track like I normally do - need to work on this) but overall I like it. Let me know what you think!

Attached File  superimpose.mp3 ( 843.13K ) Number of downloads: 106


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post Mar 1 2010, 02:46 AM
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QUOTE (JVM @ Feb 28 2010, 09:01 PM) *
Hi Pedja, I hope this will do for assignment #4, I will turn in the rec a little bit later today. For this superimposing, I used Cmajor (along with a looped melody, both making use of new inversions you've taught me, a lot of fun they are smile.gif ) and G minor chord. I tried to use A minor for the C to give an ionian feel, and A major on the Gm to give a dorian feel. In the second case of the Gminor chord I think I stumbled a bit, and I think I'm maybe a little out of time in some spots (due to using the metronome instead of a drum track like I normally do - need to work on this) but overall I like it. Let me know what you think!

Attached File  superimpose.mp3 ( 843.13K ) Number of downloads: 106


Hi JVM,

Good work with the assignment! I am excited to see your REC - post it here as soon as you finish it.


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post Mar 1 2010, 05:44 AM
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Hi Pedja,

Sorry it looks like I'm going to be a little late with this one, because I forgot to ask you for the backing track!


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post Mar 1 2010, 01:41 PM
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QUOTE (JVM @ Mar 1 2010, 05:44 AM) *
Hi Pedja,

Sorry it looks like I'm going to be a little late with this one, because I forgot to ask you for the backing track!


Hi JVM,

I posted some Triad based backing tracks under my Request part of the board. You can find them HERE

Let me know if you found your backing track.

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post Mar 1 2010, 11:32 PM
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Hi Pedja, hope you'll get better soon.

Here is my rec take. I noticed I am a bit out of tune on the low strings, but I haven't got time to do another take tonight.



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post Mar 1 2010, 11:51 PM
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QUOTE (JVM @ Mar 1 2010, 11:32 PM) *
Hi Pedja, hope you'll get better soon.

Here is my rec take. I noticed I am a bit out of tune on the low strings, but I haven't got time to do another take tonight.



Hi JVM,
Thanks a lot man. I am feeling a bit better now but I am still sick. Perhaps in next 2-3 days I will be back to normal.
Your REC is good, it definitely passes but as you said guitar not being 100% in tune drops the quality of the take and effort. I appreciate you doing it man. I will close this thread now and submit it to GMC moderation team. Feel free to write me on my board or private message.

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