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post Feb 9 2010, 10:59 AM
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Hi,

I recently bought a BOSS TU-2 pedal, a chromatic tuner, and this pedal allows me to connect a "cable" that will support up to 8 other pedals. But, are there any disadvantages with this approach in power supplying? Is this a better or worse choice than going with separate power adapters? Any other approaches for this?

My setup for this would then be:
BOSS TU-2(tuner) --> Wah Wah --> BOSS SD-2 (dist/overdrive)

I also got a BOSS chorus but I'm, not sure exactly where to throw this in the "signal chain". Any input on where I should put it?

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post Feb 9 2010, 11:13 AM
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Getting the daisy-chain chord you linked to would be a good solution. There is no right/wrong with both choices, it's the same if you have an adapter that has daisy chain, or if you have adapter that you plug into tuner and then do the daisy-chain from it to other pedals.
I prefer the daisy chain tho, since then the adapter is connected to only one pedal, so less chance for catching some pedal by mistake and pulling out the adapter cable. It's a small possibility but it can happen.

Chorus effect should go in the end of the line, after the SD2.


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post Feb 9 2010, 11:25 AM
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QUOTE (gibsonmatte @ Feb 9 2010, 10:59 AM) *
But, are there any disadvantages with this approach in power supplying? Is this a better or worse choice than going with separate power adapters? Any other approaches for this?

It adds the same amount of buzz as a separate power supply. I bought one thinking it'd be a little bit quieter but nope.
So from that aspect it's the same.

From a perspective of cost and eas of use it's a lot cheaper and easier to carry around than these heavy power supplies.

I can't recall how many Amperes it can supply, I belive 2A, but I don't have that many pedals (a tuner and a Wah) so I never had any problems.

Nothing can beat batteries in the means of silent supply. Now 280mAh batteries sell rather cheap so that could be an option if you don't mind the hassle with recharging and switching batteries.


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post Feb 9 2010, 11:34 AM
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QUOTE (Ivan Milenkovic @ Feb 9 2010, 11:13 AM) *
Getting the daisy-chain chord you linked to would be a good solution. There is no right/wrong with both choices, it's the same if you have an adapter that has daisy chain, or if you have adapter that you plug into tuner and then do the daisy-chain from it to other pedals.
I prefer the daisy chain tho, since then the adapter is connected to only one pedal, so less chance for catching some pedal by mistake and pulling out the adapter cable. It's a small possibility but it can happen.

Chorus effect should go in the end of the line, after the SD2.


Excellent and thanks for the input Ivan!

So this is how the setup will be then:

Guitar --> BOSS TU-2 -- > Wah wah --> SD-2 --> BOSS Chorus --> Amp



QUOTE (MickeM @ Feb 9 2010, 11:25 AM) *
It adds the same amount of buzz as a separate power supply. I bought one thinking it'd be a little bit quieter but nope.
So from that aspect it's the same.

From a perspective of cost and eas of use it's a lot cheaper and easier to carry around than these heavy power supplies.

I can't recall how many Amperes it can supply, I belive 2A, but I don't have that many pedals (a tuner and a Wah) so I never had any problems.

Nothing can beat batteries in the means of silent supply. Now 280mAh batteries sell rather cheap so that could be an option if you don't mind the hassle with recharging and switching batteries.


I'm a bit lazy so batteries won't be an option for me smile.gif But thanks for the input MickeM!


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post Feb 9 2010, 01:00 PM
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Regular Boss PSC230E (1000mA current) will be ideal, but I think you can pull it off no problem with Boss PSA-120S which has 500mA of current. In fact, if you don't want to get a branded one, any adapter that puts out regulated DC 9V current is fine, as long as it is powerful enough for all your pedals (check manual of pedals for current draw in mA).
I use now custom made power supply that was made in the store out of some old power adapter with filtering. It works great. I think bigger electronic service/store can make you a perfectly good one at a fraction of a cost of branded models.


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post Feb 9 2010, 01:52 PM
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QUOTE (Ivan Milenkovic @ Feb 9 2010, 01:00 PM) *
Regular Boss PSC230E (1000mA current) will be ideal, but I think you can pull it off no problem with Boss PSA-120S which has 500mA of current. In fact, if you don't want to get a branded one, any adapter that puts out regulated DC 9V current is fine, as long as it is powerful enough for all your pedals (check manual of pedals for current draw in mA).
I use now custom made power supply that was made in the store out of some old power adapter with filtering. It works great. I think bigger electronic service/store can make you a perfectly good one at a fraction of a cost of branded models.


That is actually spot on Ivan! I just came back from the music store (returning a foot switch for my amp that doesn't work) and the guy in the store told me same thing. I need to make sure that the power supply is "enough" for the pedals that I want to use. And in this case the "daisy-chain" isn't a good solution since I'm using a pretty weak (but normal) power adapter. He showed me some T-Rex solutions and other pretty pricy stuff... I will have to think this trough.

Again thanks for the input guys!



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Here's a little tip that worked for me: find couple of guitar service companies, possibly some that are within the stores (you know, where people come where the gear is bad so they have to fix it and all..), get the phone numbers and just ask them over the phone if they have some spare adapters with regulater current, you will be happy to come over and pay it if they can make one for you.
In similar way I got my 3m long cable 1400mA power adapter that is small in the same time. Is it quiet - you bet. How much money - just gave them for couple of drinks wink.gif


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The the daisy-chain cable is not expensive, maybe give that a try and see if it works.

If you decide to get power adapters you better get one that powers up to 5 stomps instead of sepparate ones, because it's more convenient and tidy.

I recently wrote this article about my pedalboard with built-in adapter, maybe that would be a nice solution for you too, check it out:
https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/wiki/inde...100_Mini_Review



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QUOTE (gibsonmatte @ Feb 9 2010, 01:52 PM) *
He showed me some T-Rex solutions and other pretty pricy stuff... I will have to think this trough.

Mind that the salesmen always have a motive wink.gif

I found my old box, mine's called 1spot.
This is what I have, cost a fraction of TRex
http://www.visualsound.net/index.php/produ...spot_combo_pack


A demo of the true sound and noise from it.
I could never use it live, have to have batteries for those occacions. I suppose the more expensive ones will wash away the noise. Couldn't find any independent demos of eg the T-Rex Fuel tank.

What's to like about the 1spot? The price!
Dislikes the noise you hear when not playing.



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post Feb 10 2010, 01:14 PM
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QUOTE (MickeM @ Feb 9 2010, 07:44 PM) *
Mind that the salesmen always have a motive wink.gif

I found my old box, mine's called 1spot.
This is what I have, cost a fraction of TRex
http://www.visualsound.net/index.php/produ...spot_combo_pack


A demo of the true sound and noise from it.
I could never use it live, have to have batteries for those occacions. I suppose the more expensive ones will wash away the noise. Couldn't find any independent demos of eg the T-Rex Fuel tank.

What's to like about the 1spot? The price!
Dislikes the noise you hear when not playing.



Wow that's crazy!

I have to try this at home with the current "no brand" adapter I got and see what kind of noise I get.
But live you're always using batteries right?

In this "noise" chain, how much is the 1spot and how much is the other stuff? Like pedals, instrument cables and amp?




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I am going to buy a voodoo lab Pedal power II Plus this week!
It's a so called fuel tank that is able to power a lot of pedals without causing excessive noise from a bad plug (which I have in the rehearsal room...) The Pedal Power is very expensive but I want to have a quiet and reliable power source on my pedalboard!


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QUOTE (gibsonmatte @ Feb 10 2010, 01:14 PM) *
But live you're always using batteries right?

In this "noise" chain, how much is the 1spot and how much is the other stuff? Like pedals, instrument cables and amp?

Live I always use batteries, for obvious reasons biggrin.gif

I can't recall what I payed, but at amazon there's a 1spot combo pack for $35 and the T-rex fuel tank is $199
Comparable since they both can drive ~8 pedals.

There's a fuel tank Jr for 5 pedals for $99 that could be an relatively cheap option if it's quiet.


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