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 Mar 21 2010, 03:48 PM Post #21 Experienced Rock Star & Challenge Star Group: Members Posts: 289 Joined: 29-November 08 From: France Member No.: 6.326 Hey Emir,I feel a little bit scared by this new assignment. I think I miss some theory. So I have a couple of questions :1. You wrote I have to start with A aeolian then D Dorian. Those two modes are minor. So why can't I do the opposite: play A Dorian and D aeolian ?2. On the E7, you said to play E Mixolydian. But isn't E mixolydian in the A major Scale, not the C major scale ? I think this is E phrygian that is in C major scale. Am I wrong ?Thank you. -------------------- ï¿½Million-to-one chances crop up nine times out of ten.ï¿½â€• Terry Pratchett, The Light Fantastic
 Mar 21 2010, 04:07 PM Post #22 Instructor Group: GMC Instructor Posts: 7.201 Joined: 14-July 08 From: London UK Member No.: 5.490 There we are This assignment can help you start thinking of modes much more and develop your modal knowledge while improvising. This is a quick tip:Dorian and Aeolian are minor modes but when you have Am as your root and Dm7 after that, it is obvious that you are actually in C major scale but your modal root is A minor. If you count your modes from the C root you will realise that your A minor is your aeolian mode and Dm7 is your dorian. Regarding E7, yes it is mixolydian from A major but it this case it's an exception because that chord is borowed from A harmonic minor scale (5th mode) so it is a dominant chord and you need major 3rd in it. The perfect choice would be Phrygian Dominant mode (the same as phrygian but with the maj 3rd) but since we're not doing harmonic minor modes you can play mixolydian as that's the closest to what we need. Easier way is that you play E7 arpeggio notes only over that chord (E, G#, B, D). If you play pure phrygian mode that wouldn't work as it is the minor scale (has minor 3rd) but the chord itself has major 3rd. The same you can do over C#7 - play only arpeggio notes over that bit and you'll be safe. -------------------- Check out my Instructor profilewww.emirhot.comwww.myspace.com/emirhotguitarwww.myspace.com/sevdahmetal
 Mar 21 2010, 04:19 PM Post #23 Experienced Rock Star & Challenge Star Group: Members Posts: 289 Joined: 29-November 08 From: France Member No.: 6.326 OK. Another question : with Am and Dm7 it could also be F major scale (A phrygian and D locrian I think). Am I wrong ? -------------------- ï¿½Million-to-one chances crop up nine times out of ten.ï¿½â€• Terry Pratchett, The Light Fantastic
 Mar 21 2010, 05:03 PM Post #24 Instructor Group: GMC Instructor Posts: 7.201 Joined: 14-July 08 From: London UK Member No.: 5.490 QUOTE (GrindGuer @ Mar 21 2010, 03:19 PM) OK. Another question : with Am and Dm7 it could also be F major scale (A phrygian and D locrian I think). Am I wrong ? Not in this case if I understood your question correctly. Our piece of music has no accidentals so it must be either in A minor or C major. F major has one flat (Bb). You could use the modes you said if the track was is F major but it is in A minor so there is no place to think of F major at all. If we had an F chord in our track then it would be F lydian over that chord. -------------------- Check out my Instructor profilewww.emirhot.comwww.myspace.com/emirhotguitarwww.myspace.com/sevdahmetal
 Mar 21 2010, 05:19 PM Post #25 Experienced Rock Star & Challenge Star Group: Members Posts: 289 Joined: 29-November 08 From: France Member No.: 6.326 Is the problem of the B flat with the E7 (who has a B ) ? I seriously lack of theory to understand all this. Do you have any reference I should read (on the Internet or a book) ?Is the second part A major scale ? F# aeolian, E mixolydian, D lydian and A ionian. This post has been edited by GrindGuer: Mar 21 2010, 05:25 PM -------------------- ï¿½Million-to-one chances crop up nine times out of ten.ï¿½â€• Terry Pratchett, The Light Fantastic
 Mar 21 2010, 05:52 PM Post #26 Instructor Group: GMC Instructor Posts: 7.201 Joined: 14-July 08 From: London UK Member No.: 5.490 QUOTE (GrindGuer @ Mar 21 2010, 04:19 PM) Is the problem of the B flat with the E7 (who has a B ) ? I seriously lack of theory to understand all this. Do you have any reference I should read (on the Internet or a book) ?Is the second part A major scale ? F# aeolian, E mixolydian, D lydian and A ionian. None of those scales (A aeolian, D dorian, E mixolydian) have Bb so we shouldn't play that note. It would sound off. Try it.The second question is YES. You are actually in A major scale but think of your modal roots and build your phrases around it. When you're in F#m think of F#m not of A major. Position 1 of F#m scale is actually your position 5 of A major scale.Check this lesson out for your reference (read text in the lesson).https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/solo-guit...-c-major-scale/ -------------------- Check out my Instructor profilewww.emirhot.comwww.myspace.com/emirhotguitarwww.myspace.com/sevdahmetal
 Mar 21 2010, 10:43 PM Post #27 Experienced Rock Star & Challenge Star Group: Members Posts: 289 Joined: 29-November 08 From: France Member No.: 6.326 Here is what I came to :Am: A aeolianDm7: D dorianE7: Arpeggio (E, G#,B, D)C#7: Arpeggio (C#, F, G#, B )F#m: F# aeolianE: E mixolydianD: D lydianA: A ionianC#7: Arpeggio (C#, F, G#, B )E7: Arpeggio (E, G#,B, D)If it's OK, what exactly do I have to do with this ? Do I have to play the scale starting from the root note in different positions ? -------------------- ï¿½Million-to-one chances crop up nine times out of ten.ï¿½â€• Terry Pratchett, The Light Fantastic
 Mar 24 2010, 02:20 AM Post #28 Instructor Group: GMC Instructor Posts: 7.201 Joined: 14-July 08 From: London UK Member No.: 5.490 You wrote out correct answer. Now we need the music I need to you improvise using those scales and connect as many positions as you can. You don't have to start each scale from the root. Just play any random melodic lines using these scales.Check how Maharzan did it in 16th notes. You can play 8th notes that will be ok. -------------------- Check out my Instructor profilewww.emirhot.comwww.myspace.com/emirhotguitarwww.myspace.com/sevdahmetal

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