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post Mar 3 2010, 09:32 PM
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This song is really one of my favourite one's from the 80's. I became a little upset with Mr.Bonamassa covers it, since I did it for years when he still tried to cover SRV... laugh.gif
Anyway, Bonamassas version is awesome as well as the original one, so this is kind of a mix between them I suppose. (Joe did change the chords in the verse's comparing to the original)
I must also say that Tony Miro did a great job to master this one into a more vintage sounding song!!!!
Enjoy! (and as usual, all comments are welcome, good or bad, it doesn't matter... smile.gif )

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post Mar 3 2010, 10:27 PM
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Just on the playing and having listened to the take quite a few times - some great guitar playing from Staffay.

I hadn't heard Joe Bonamassa's version before talking to Staffay - though we've had the Sam Brown cd for years. I think Staffay did a really good job of referring to both versions whilst still making it his own. Staffay's original studio recording was a good clean take to work on as well good tracking, mixing and levels with plenty of head room for me as ME.

Mastering equipment FWIW: Lavry Blue AD/DAC/DAC, Ibis EQ, STC8M, Flux Pure Limiter. Main aim - to emulate a master to saturated analogue 1/2 inch tape master. I was aiming at Joe Bonamassa's version as the reference.


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post Mar 3 2010, 11:43 PM
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QUOTE (tonymiro @ Mar 3 2010, 10:27 PM) *
Just on the playing and having listened to the take quite a few times - some great guitar playing from Staffay.

I hadn't heard Joe Bonamassa's version before talking to Staffay - though we've had the Sam Brown cd for years. I think Staffay did a really good job of referring to both versions whilst still making it his own. Staffay's original studio recording was a good clean take to work on as well good tracking, mixing and levels with plenty of head room for me as ME.

Mastering equipment FWIW: Lavry Blue AD/DAC/DAC, Ibis EQ, STC8M, Flux Pure Limiter. Main aim - to emulate a master to saturated analogue 1/2 inch tape master. I was aiming at Joe Bonamassa's version as the reference.


It seems obvious now when we made this, Tony, that in order to get a full analogue sound in a digital format some more investments have to be done. This one was made with programmed drums & bass, however I find the lack of warmth in digital equipment stunning ( at least at the semi-pro level I'm recording at). I think I will invest in a real good tube-preamp/2 channel strip (which also the mix can run trough in order to get some more warmth beforew mastering). Have You got any suggestions that won't totally ruin me???

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post Mar 3 2010, 11:56 PM
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Another awsome cover staffy smile.gif


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post Mar 4 2010, 12:00 AM
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I think it sounds great, this song is excellent, and you covered it so cool Staffay. Great stuff, very pleasant for listening! I don't know how the original sounded, but it seems tony did his magic again here! smile.gif


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post Mar 4 2010, 12:44 AM
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Awesome work guys!! tongue.gif smile.gif

Staffy, that was some great playing mate and Tony, that was a great master mix my friend.

Rock On!! cool.gif


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post Mar 4 2010, 01:18 AM
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Thx. Guys!!! smile.gif

Here's the original: Sam Brown "Stop" (Note that is herself playing the Hammond organ as well... smile.gif )



And here is Bonamassa:



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post Mar 4 2010, 01:39 AM
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Wow, I haven't heard original in such a long time, it's such an awesome song! smile.gif


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post Mar 4 2010, 07:29 AM
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QUOTE (Ivan Milenkovic @ Mar 4 2010, 01:39 AM) *
Wow, I haven't heard original in such a long time, it's such an awesome song! smile.gif


Yeah, it really is! When I first heard it back in 88' I though: "Wow, this must be a cover of a late 60's/70's song that I missed". And then it became a huge hit, what was also verys strange amongst all Milli-Vanillis, Pet Shop Boy's and Stock-Aitkens-Waterman hit factory artists such as Rick Astley.... *huuuuhh, i'm shakin by just writing his name.....*

We used to cover this song in the original version, with guitar instead of organ solo, since the keyboard-player was classical trained (nothin bad bout that, though) and couldn't find a blue note if he so would use the whole stage lightnin' to look for one..... biggrin.gif

As most of this songs I really love to play, this has also a story to me, since I was deeply in love with the singer in the band, and she later left me for my replacement in the band when I got tirad of touring, so the lyrics are kinda spot on to me, since I felt very cheated back then...

Btw. I did some research on Sam Brown when I was struggling with this one, and she is happy married with four(!) children and lives in Wales I believe - what guy dares to cheat on her after she wrotes THIS song????? laugh.gif

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QUOTE (Staffy @ Mar 3 2010, 11:43 PM) *
... I think I will invest in a real good tube-preamp/2 channel strip (which also the mix can run trough in order to get some more warmth beforew mastering)...

//Staffay


Mic pre-amp - I'm a fan of Neve generally and they have both the 1070 and 1080 mic pres. Chandler do some good hardware Neve clones that cost a fair bit less than an AMS Neve. A little different to an AMS Neve are the Rupert Neve mic pres - still very similar to the AMS but has a character of its own. Also good are the APi strips and the pro end Focusrite (i.e the Red etc). Less of a traditional vibe(ie less 1970s/early80s, more 1980s-1990s) but also worth looking at are the SSl strips. If you want a tube based mic pre then maybe Avalon. For a reasonable/good 2 channel mic pre/strip you'll probably have to budget 1-3K Euros.

Summing mixer - an analogue summing desk/unit could sit across the outs of your digital console and sum down to a stereo mix or you could take the feed out of your DAW as separate channels on the aux in to the summer and then sum to a stereo main and back into the DAW. It's a bit debatable as to what extent summing actually helps though. Neve have a nice summing desk as do SSL. Be aware though that I think both use Tascam D-Subs i/o.

Just on Sam Brown - if I remember correctly she's the singer/song writer Joe Brown's daughter. She spent a lot of time as a backing singer prior to writing and recording Stop!

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QUOTE (Ivan Milenkovic @ Mar 4 2010, 12:00 AM) *
... did his magic again here! smile.gif


Thanks Ivan and UncleSkillet smile.gif.

Just as a bit of a silly aside - some time ago my daughter had to write an essay on what her parents do for a living. She wrote a nice but pretty obvious bit about my wife as a radio producer and then struggled to explain my role as an ME. She ended up writing that 'my dad is the guy who sprinkles magic dust on a cd to make it sound good.' So there we have it to master your stuff just get a big supply of magic dust cool.gif .



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post Mar 4 2010, 03:38 PM
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QUOTE (tonymiro @ Mar 4 2010, 01:49 PM) *
Just on Sam Brown - if I remember correctly she's the singer/song writer Joe Brown's daughter. She spent a lot of time as a backing singer prior to writing and recording Stop!


Thats true, nowadays she's a voice instructor in London and works with her father as well as Jools Holland , I think. But she made several records since that one, I havent got the time to check them out though. She's just a fantastic singer!!!!

QUOTE (tonymiro @ Mar 4 2010, 02:25 PM) *
So there we have it to master your stuff just get a big supply of magic dust cool.gif .


Hehe, kids are just wonderful!!!! biggrin.gif But as long as the dust doesn't get up Your nose, everything is OK, I believe!!! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif


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Just listened to it, sounds awesome Staffy, I love the original and you made this cover your own, great playing & singing too cool.gif


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I haven't heard the original but you have made a great song version here!


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