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post Apr 3 2007, 02:12 PM
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I want a new guitar for shredding - my Variax is awesome and plays well, has amazing versatility but there are a couple of things it doesn't do well - Using the floating trem really backs off the sustain so I keep it locked, and metal style chugging just doesn't work because of the Piezo pickups - now both of the above aren't core to the type of playing I do, but I very much want to learn both techniques, so I need a shred-machine to practice on that won't cost the earth but plays well.

I'm looking for a guitar that:

- Plays super fast
- Has a lot of sustain
- Has a locking tremelo
- Has Humbuckers

Sounds like an Ibanez right? But I want something a little cheaper ... I've heard good things about Schecter, and the Hellraiser Damien FR seems to fit the bill - anyone got one of these? Are they good?


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post Apr 3 2007, 06:40 PM
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QUOTE (Andrew Cockburn @ Apr 3 2007, 05:12 AM) *
I want a new guitar for shredding - my Variax is awesome and plays well, has amazing versatility but there are a couple of things it doesn't do well - Using the floating trem really backs off the sustain so I keep it locked, and metal style chugging just doesn't work because of the Piezo pickups - now both of the above aren't core to the type of playing I do, but I very much want to learn both techniques, so I need a shred-machine to practice on that won't cost the earth but plays well.

I'm looking for a guitar that:

- Plays super fast
- Has a lot of sustain
- Has a locking tremelo
- Has Humbuckers

Sounds like an Ibanez right? But I want something a little cheaper ... I've heard good things about Schecter, and the Hellraiser Damien FR seems to fit the bill - anyone got one of these? Are they good?

I tried a Schecter (don't know what kind) and I did some tapping and a few licks and it was pretty easy to play fast. I was gonna get it but the one I looked at didn't have a whammy bar. oh yea around $300
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post Apr 3 2007, 08:15 PM
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https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_fo...?showtopic=3226 biggrin.gif
Awesome guitar, especially for the price. I noticed I could play a lot faster then on my Alvarez, i say go for it!

O yeah, if you some more people's opinions on it check out the reviews at: http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Sch...itar?sku=513103

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post Apr 3 2007, 08:53 PM
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My bands guitarists uses that, he swears by it, and ive played it a few times, greta instrument and very comfortable.
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post Apr 3 2007, 09:01 PM
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QUOTE (Ghrim @ Apr 3 2007, 03:15 PM) *
https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_fo...?showtopic=3226 biggrin.gif
Awesome guitar, especially for the price. I noticed I could play a lot faster then on my Alvarez, i say go for it!

O yeah, if you some more people's opinions on it check out the reviews at: http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Sch...itar?sku=513103


Damn, I even posted to that thread saying it looked cool - at least I am consistent laugh.gif Thanks for the input! And thanks Uncreator as well - now I need to convince my wife that 3 guitars in 3 months isn't excessive ...

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post Apr 4 2007, 08:26 AM
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Wifes are there to stand by your side and support you in hard times, and persuading yourself that you need a new guitar is hard times, right? And if you keep this guitar buying pace up for a while she will give up, shake her head and mumble something you can't hear. After that you can buy as much gear you like.

That's in theory though. After buying two Schecters within 2 months I thought I had it all set up, but the other day I told her we were going to buy a POD XT somehow she found the willpower to object to that :/ I really don't understand what went wrong.

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More seriously, bought my son a Schecter Revenger, active pickups. I think it's in the same price segment as Damien. For the money that is a great guitar and Metal lives inside that guitar. I'm sure the Damien won't let you down.


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post Apr 4 2007, 12:41 PM
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I don't like the apperance of the Damien so I'd go for a C-1 Hellraiser if I wanted a shred guitar.


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post Apr 4 2007, 02:16 PM
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QUOTE (Zee Deveel @ Apr 4 2007, 07:41 AM) *
I don't like the apperance of the Damien so I'd go for a C-1 Hellraiser if I wanted a shred guitar.


Looks like irs twice the price - what do you get for that? I see a thru neck as the only real difference unless I missed something - is that worth the extra?


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QUOTE (Andrew Cockburn @ Apr 4 2007, 03:16 PM) *
Looks like irs twice the price - what do you get for that? I see a thru neck as the only real difference unless I missed something - is that worth the extra?


I can say out my own experience a thru neck plays really really well, but if its worth 300 bucks i dunno.


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post Apr 4 2007, 06:27 PM
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QUOTE (blindwillie @ Apr 4 2007, 03:26 AM) *
Wifes are there to stand by your side and support you in hard times, and persuading yourself that you need a new guitar is hard times, right? And if you keep this guitar buying pace up for a while she will give up, shake her head and mumble something you can't hear. After that you can buy as much gear you like.

That's in theory though. After buying two Schecters within 2 months I thought I had it all set up, but the other day I told her we were going to buy a POD XT somehow she found the willpower to object to that :/ I really don't understand what went wrong.

*Warning: This advice might lead to an unwanted divorce if handled improperly.

More seriously, bought my son a Schecter Revenger, active pickups. I think it's in the same price segment as Damien. For the money that is a great guitar and Metal lives inside that guitar. I'm sure the Damien won't let you down.


Heh, I like your line of reasoning smile.gif

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post Apr 4 2007, 08:37 PM
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QUOTE (Andrew Cockburn @ Apr 4 2007, 06:27 PM) *
Heh, I like your line of reasoning smile.gif

Hi Andrew, I've just had a look at that link, and the Satin black looks nice enough, but if the necks crap then it'd be a waste. If I we're you I'd save your money till ya can get the Ibanez I got a JS100 in L.A for $599 and it was one of the best guitars I've had
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post Apr 4 2007, 10:11 PM
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Well they don't look like crap for a start. tongue.gif Heh.. I don't know mate to be honest, but all the C-1s I've played have been great. Plus I think the Hellraiser comes with a EMG 81/85 set instead of the Hz series.


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QUOTE (Zee Deveel @ Apr 4 2007, 05:11 PM) *
Well they don't look like crap for a start.


Heh, that's a good enough reason to start with! BTW the C-1 I notice has a "Set Neck" not a thru neck - some places say that a set neck is worse than a well done bolt on, but I can;t imagine Schecter would put a crpaiier neck on a guitar twice the price. As ever, I'll have to go and check them out.

Keith: I'll look at the JS100 as well - same price bracket as a C-1, gets mostly good reviews, so lets see!

Thanks for the input guys.


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dont believe that, i own a schecter c-1+ set neck and it plays like a dream. Schecter would be in my belt for a very long time because they are such a dream to play. Hellraiser is an artist version, thats why it cost a lot because Jeff Loomis from Nevermore plays that guitar.


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post Apr 6 2007, 02:37 PM
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The Hellraiser is just a C1 with EMGs.


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post Apr 8 2007, 12:58 AM
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The Hellraiser is a C1 and there is other differences between the C1-models then just the pickups. There is bolt-on necks, vol/tone controls, scale, type of frets etc. And the artist model is a C7. Jeff Loomis C7 FR.

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