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Mar 30 2010, 08:38 AM
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Hi Everybody,
I'm about to purchase a E-MU 1616M, and i wanted to ask if anybody here had any experience with the device. And reg PCI version: http://www.emu.com/products/product.asp?ca...p;product=15189 There are PCIe x1 version: http://www.emu.com/products/product.asp?ca...p;product=19007 I would think that later be a better pick? Since i do have PCIe x1 port on my motherboard. Also has any body had problems using it with any recording software? I use Ableton Live, so that's what interests me the most, but just case I'll ever want to switch, would be nice to know ahead of time if there are some limitations. I'm upgrading Line6 UX1 to this interface, and have heard a lot of positive feedback about EMU 1616M and have high hopes for it. Thanks guys -------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Mar 30 2010, 09:10 AM
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QUOTE (antonskv @ Mar 30 2010, 09:38 AM)  Hi Everybody, I'm about to purchase a E-MU 1616M, and i wanted to ask if anybody here had any experience with the device. And reg PCI version: http://www.emu.com/products/product.asp?ca...p;product=15189 There are PCIe x1 version: http://www.emu.com/products/product.asp?ca...p;product=19007 I would think that later be a better pick? Since i do have PCIe x1 port on my motherboard. Also has any body had problems using it with any recording software? I use Ableton Live, so that's what interests me the most, but just case I'll ever want to switch, would be nice to know ahead of time if there are some limitations. I'm upgrading Line6 UX1 to this interface, and have heard a lot of positive feedback about EMU 1616M and have high hopes for it. Thanks guys I had an 1212m before I bought my TC-Konnekt 48, and was very pleased with it, I believe its the same A/D-converters in 1616m, and they just knocks out everything in this price-range. I never had any issues with EMU products (I also use a 0202-card for my laptop) and I will highly recommend them to anyone looking for a great sounding card for the prize You pay. Actually, the next step forward would be to buy one that are about 10 times more expensive when it comes down to sound-quality and A/D-converting. //Staffay --------------------  Guitars: Ibanez AM-200, Ibanez GB-10, Fender Stratocaster Classic Player, Warmouth Custom Built, Suhr Classic Strat, Gibson Les Paul Standard 2003, Ibanez steel-string Amps: Fender Hot Rod Deluxe, Marshall JMP 2103, AER 60 Effects: BOSS DD-20, Danelectro Trans. Overdrive, TC-Electronics G-Major, Dunlop Wah-wah, Original SansAmp, BOSS DD-2 Music by Staffy can be found at: Staffay at MySpace |
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Mar 30 2010, 11:29 AM
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QUOTE (Staffy @ Mar 30 2010, 04:10 AM) I had an 1212m before I bought my TC-Konnekt 48, and was very pleased with it, I believe its the same A/D-converters in 1616m, and they just knocks out everything in this price-range. I never had any issues with EMU products (I also use a 0202-card for my laptop) and I will highly recommend them to anyone looking for a great sounding card for the prize You pay. Actually, the next step forward would be to buy one that are about 10 times more expensive when it comes down to sound-quality and A/D-converting. //Staffay Oh thanks Staffay, Makes me more confident in my choice. I'm just so tired of all the problems with USB and FireWire interfaces that i've had in the past. For example first time i've tried to upgrade my UX1, guys in the store recommended PreSonus FireBox, which according to reviews should be an awesome interface.... But it was working terribly on my comp. I did all the updates, also i think there even was a FirmWare update to update software inside actual FireBox, i did everything humanly possible to make it work..... Result was less than thrilling. PreSonus support is terrible, to be honest, i didn't get any help from them. But that does not mean its bad interface, actually something that was brought to my attention by one of my friends kinda made sense to me... I noticed that all the good reviews for it were written mostly by Mac users. Supposedly its GREAT unit for Mac users. I returned the interface of course, and made up my mind about getting something that will bypass this whole problem. I think EMU 1616M will definitely make me more than happy. Thanks, i appreciate your input! -------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Mar 30 2010, 12:04 PM
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QUOTE (antonskv @ Mar 30 2010, 11:29 AM) I'm just so tired of all the problems with USB and FireWire interfaces that i've had in the past. THe problem with Firewire is that you can never be certain that the firewire that's on once brand will be the same on another. Strangly. I think Dell is well known for terrible Firewire inteface, made from parts that seldom interact with perpipherals. Also it's becomin less and less included in a computer package that you buy, not even with Apple. Perhaps they want to leave it to the customer to make the desicion on what firewire card to get. I.e so they can't blame Dell or Packard or whatever brand for supplying bad hardware. -------------------- My bands homepage
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Mar 30 2010, 01:32 PM
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QUOTE (MickeM @ Mar 30 2010, 12:04 PM) THe problem with Firewire is that you can never be certain that the firewire that's on once brand will be the same on another. Strangly. I think Dell is well known for terrible Firewire inteface, made from parts that seldom interact with perpipherals. Also it's becomin less and less included in a computer package that you buy, not even with Apple. Perhaps they want to leave it to the customer to make the desicion on what firewire card to get. I.e so they can't blame Dell or Packard or whatever brand for supplying bad hardware. There's a known issue with firewire and audio. Basically about the only recommended firewire chipset for either pc or mac is the Texas one. Apple used to use it but switched to a different one for the recent powermac. -------------------- Get your music professionally mastered by anl AES registered Mastering Engineer. Contact me for Audio Mastering Services and Advice and visit our website www.miromastering.com
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Mar 30 2010, 02:01 PM
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Whew, more i hear, the more i'm convinced i wasn't crazy...... And that getting EMU 1616m is $500 well spent.
Btw i do have a DELL  lolOtherwise its a great machine, i've been really happy with it. Thanks guys! -------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Mar 30 2010, 03:08 PM
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I use 1212m and I can say with confidence that 1616m is a smart buyers decision. It has everything a person would want from a product, it's stable, and you really get what you payed for. Don't forget that the card is capable of running 16 I/O streams, so upgrade is quite possible, and it nears semi-pro studio usage with proper outboard gear. It pays out definitely.
Not sure about PCIe version, it should be better to take that one. I have PCI and works no problem however, but you may want to upgrade your PC motherboard in the future and keep the card, and if you have PCI it can prove problematic. Newer MoBo's will have less and less PCI slots available. PCIe has bigger bandwidth than PCI, and although I'm no expert, it would be safer for me to use it on the faster than slower slot, just a thing of common sense. On the other side, check for the web if someone had any problems with PCIe drivers or something, and see if it works on your OS platform. It pays out to investigate these things. This post has been edited by Ivan Milenkovic: Mar 30 2010, 03:10 PM -------------------- - Ivan's Video Chat Lesson Notes HERE
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Mar 30 2010, 09:45 PM
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QUOTE (Ivan Milenkovic @ Mar 30 2010, 10:08 AM) I use 1212m and I can say with confidence that 1616m is a smart buyers decision. It has everything a person would want from a product, it's stable, and you really get what you payed for. Don't forget that the card is capable of running 16 I/O streams, so upgrade is quite possible, and it nears semi-pro studio usage with proper outboard gear. It pays out definitely. Not sure about PCIe version, it should be better to take that one. I have PCI and works no problem however, but you may want to upgrade your PC motherboard in the future and keep the card, and if you have PCI it can prove problematic. Newer MoBo's will have less and less PCI slots available. PCIe has bigger bandwidth than PCI, and although I'm no expert, it would be safer for me to use it on the faster than slower slot, just a thing of common sense. On the other side, check for the web if someone had any problems with PCIe drivers or something, and see if it works on your OS platform. It pays out to investigate these things. Thanks for your input Ivan! Yes, i have researched the compatibility. I run Windows XP, I'm one of those people who waits till new releases of the Windows are "relatively" stable before switching to them. And this Interface officially supports both Windows XP, and Windows Vista. And yeah, I'll get the PCIe version of it, i mean it cant hurt to have the card running on a faster bus than the slower one. Though like you said I'm more than sure PCI version is just as good. Ivan, what other hardware/software are you using along with your 1616M? If its not a secret... Thanks! -------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Apr 2 2010, 11:16 PM
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Not a secret mate
 BTW I'm using 1212m, like I wrote in the post. It's a slightly lower model with 12 I/O, and without external module (although it is optional). There are 2 analog inputs on the card, and I use M-Audio DMP3 2-channel preamp as an outboard input dock, and that is it. I plan to get some A/D converter soon so I can expand channels from 2 to 10. -------------------- - Ivan's Video Chat Lesson Notes HERE
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Apr 10 2010, 12:54 PM
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QUOTE (Ivan Milenkovic @ Apr 2 2010, 06:16 PM) Not a secret mate BTW I'm using 1212m, like I wrote in the post. It's a slightly lower model with 12 I/O, and without external module (although it is optional). There are 2 analog inputs on the card, and I use M-Audio DMP3 2-channel preamp as an outboard input dock, and that is it. I plan to get some A/D converter soon so I can expand channels from 2 to 10. Heya Ivan! Sheesh.... I got my EMU 1616m PCIe in the mail couple of days ago. Ran into a blue screen of death immediately.... GRRRRRR. Like i suspected it might've been conflict between EMU and some other hardware, or might've been some IRQ conflict problem or such.... STOP: 0x0000008E (0x00000005, 0xAFAE4077, 0xADFBE96C, 0x00000000) *** ha20x2k.sys - Address AFAE4077 base at AFA6C000, DateStamp 49a22132 Beginning Dump of Physical Memory..... WHOA - wonderful. I was about to slit my wrists..... (I've been having worst luck with interfaces) But i decided to make ultimate sacrifice - i reformatted my comp (C: drive anyway) and reinstalled my XP. I know i should get a separate comp for audio work, but i cant afford it. Though I keep mine pretty clean still, though some stuff i cant really get rid off... Its my main workstation  First thing i installed is EMU drivers and PatchMix DSP mixer. So far seems to work fine, i mean i still have to figure out how to work with such professional level interface/software etc... But if it will keep working like it does now - its gonna be a blast. 'Cause latency is like Non-Existent on this interface. I mean there is no such thing as 0-latency, but its so low that my ear does not hear the difference between EMU and my Fender FrontMan 212 amp. I can only pray to God and hope EMU wont start bitching and moaning about something. I still have a lot of hardware uninstalled, and i'll install them 1 by 1, to see if any specific hardware is creating that conflict or whatever it was that cause Blue Screen of Death. So far i need to learn the PatchMix and general setup/use of this interface, 'cause its like x 30 times harder than UX1, i mean this baby really has much more than couple of inputs/outputs. This thing is a monster In a good way of course. I don't know if i have a brain capacity to comprehend the knowledge from the docs, but i fear in the end I'll just end up hiring somebody for an hour to show me how to use it properly.After my injury my head does not work as good as it used to, a lot of times info just does not sink in.... Imagine how music theory kicks my butt... But i ain't complaining, in my opinion i got pretty far for semi-invalid as far as guitar/music goes, and i feel I'll get even further as long as i keep trying. I'll let you know how it goes, and if i'll be able to get out of it things that i want. Thanks for sharing knowledge Ivan, you da man! Sincerely, Anton -------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Apr 10 2010, 02:18 PM
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QUOTE (tonymiro @ Mar 30 2010, 02:32 PM) There's a known issue with firewire and audio. Basically about the only recommended firewire chipset for either pc or mac is the Texas one. Apple used to use it but switched to a different one for the recent powermac. +1 , The Texas one is the only one I got to function fail-proof. //Staffay QUOTE (antonskv @ Apr 10 2010, 01:54 PM) Heya Ivan! Sheesh.... I got my EMU 1616m PCIe in the mail couple of days ago. Ran into a blue screen of death immediately.... GRRRRRR. Like i suspected it might've been conflict between EMU and some other hardware, or might've been some IRQ conflict problem or such.... STOP: 0x0000008E (0x00000005, 0xAFAE4077, 0xADFBE96C, 0x00000000) *** ha20x2k.sys - Address AFAE4077 base at AFA6C000, DateStamp 49a22132 Beginning Dump of Physical Memory..... WHOA - wonderful. I was about to slit my wrists..... (I've been having worst luck with interfaces) But i decided to make ultimate sacrifice - i reformatted my comp (C: drive anyway) and reinstalled my XP. I know i should get a separate comp for audio work, but i cant afford it. Though I keep mine pretty clean still, though some stuff i cant really get rid off... Its my main workstation First thing i installed is EMU drivers and PatchMix DSP mixer. So far seems to work fine, i mean i still have to figure out how to work with such professional level interface/software etc... But if it will keep working like it does now - its gonna be a blast. 'Cause latency is like Non-Existent on this interface. I mean there is no such thing as 0-latency, but its so low that my ear does not hear the difference between EMU and my Fender FrontMan 212 amp. I can only pray to God and hope EMU wont start bitching and moaning about something. I still have a lot of hardware uninstalled, and i'll install them 1 by 1, to see if any specific hardware is creating that conflict or whatever it was that cause Blue Screen of Death. So far i need to learn the PatchMix and general setup/use of this interface, 'cause its like x 30 times harder than UX1, i mean this baby really has much more than couple of inputs/outputs. This thing is a monster In a good way of course. I don't know if i have a brain capacity to comprehend the knowledge from the docs, but i fear in the end I'll just end up hiring somebody for an hour to show me how to use it properly.After my injury my head does not work as good as it used to, a lot of times info just does not sink in.... Imagine how music theory kicks my butt... But i ain't complaining, in my opinion i got pretty far for semi-invalid as far as guitar/music goes, and i feel I'll get even further as long as i keep trying. I'll let you know how it goes, and if i'll be able to get out of it things that i want. Thanks for sharing knowledge Ivan, you da man! Sincerely, Anton QUOTE (antonskv @ Apr 10 2010, 01:54 PM) Heya Ivan! Sheesh.... I got my EMU 1616m PCIe in the mail couple of days ago. Ran into a blue screen of death immediately.... GRRRRRR. Like i suspected it might've been conflict between EMU and some other hardware, or might've been some IRQ conflict problem or such.... STOP: 0x0000008E (0x00000005, 0xAFAE4077, 0xADFBE96C, 0x00000000) *** ha20x2k.sys - Address AFAE4077 base at AFA6C000, DateStamp 49a22132 Beginning Dump of Physical Memory..... WHOA - wonderful. I was about to slit my wrists..... (I've been having worst luck with interfaces) But i decided to make ultimate sacrifice - i reformatted my comp (C: drive anyway) and reinstalled my XP. I know i should get a separate comp for audio work, but i cant afford it. Though I keep mine pretty clean still, though some stuff i cant really get rid off... Its my main workstation First thing i installed is EMU drivers and PatchMix DSP mixer. So far seems to work fine, i mean i still have to figure out how to work with such professional level interface/software etc... But if it will keep working like it does now - its gonna be a blast. 'Cause latency is like Non-Existent on this interface. I mean there is no such thing as 0-latency, but its so low that my ear does not hear the difference between EMU and my Fender FrontMan 212 amp. I can only pray to God and hope EMU wont start bitching and moaning about something. I still have a lot of hardware uninstalled, and i'll install them 1 by 1, to see if any specific hardware is creating that conflict or whatever it was that cause Blue Screen of Death. So far i need to learn the PatchMix and general setup/use of this interface, 'cause its like x 30 times harder than UX1, i mean this baby really has much more than couple of inputs/outputs. This thing is a monster In a good way of course. I don't know if i have a brain capacity to comprehend the knowledge from the docs, but i fear in the end I'll just end up hiring somebody for an hour to show me how to use it properly.After my injury my head does not work as good as it used to, a lot of times info just does not sink in.... Imagine how music theory kicks my butt... But i ain't complaining, in my opinion i got pretty far for semi-invalid as far as guitar/music goes, and i feel I'll get even further as long as i keep trying. I'll let you know how it goes, and if i'll be able to get out of it things that i want. Thanks for sharing knowledge Ivan, you da man! Sincerely, Anton Just a quick tip here Anton, make sure that the internal sound-card is turned off in bios (if existing such), also turn off shadowing in the bios. Network cards seems to interfere with audio-cards, especially wireless ones, so when I'm recording I kinda disable everything in the computer that hasn't anything to do with recording. An ultimate solution is to make a machine-profile for just recording - leaving all unnecessary extensions out. //Staffay -------------------- Guitars: Ibanez AM-200, Ibanez GB-10, Fender Stratocaster Classic Player, Warmouth Custom Built, Suhr Classic Strat, Gibson Les Paul Standard 2003, Ibanez steel-string Amps: Fender Hot Rod Deluxe, Marshall JMP 2103, AER 60 Effects: BOSS DD-20, Danelectro Trans. Overdrive, TC-Electronics G-Major, Dunlop Wah-wah, Original SansAmp, BOSS DD-2 Music by Staffy can be found at: Staffay at MySpace |
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Apr 10 2010, 02:37 PM
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QUOTE (Staffy @ Apr 10 2010, 01:18 PM) ... also turn off shadowing in the bios. Network cards seems to interfere with audio-cards, especially wireless ones, so when I'm recording I kinda disable everything in the computer that hasn't anything to do with recording. An ultimate solution is to make a machine-profile for just recording - leaving all unnecessary extensions out. //Staffay Absolutely - also some video cards, particularly the newer high spec 'gamer' type ones have a habit of getting in the way of audio work and bluetooth is a real pain IME. If you have a lot of hardware on the pc watch the bootup sequence as video and a few others usually takes a lot of juice on power-up and can stop an audio card initialising properly. If you can't run a pc dedicated to audio the next best thing is dual boot and set up a specific hardware profile for audio. I'd also go so far as to suggest that you consider killing all non-audio apps, particularly virus guards and the like and keep the pc away from the Internet. -------------------- Get your music professionally mastered by anl AES registered Mastering Engineer. Contact me for Audio Mastering Services and Advice and visit our website www.miromastering.com
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Apr 10 2010, 03:49 PM
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QUOTE (Staffy @ Apr 10 2010, 09:18 AM) +1 , The Texas one is the only one I got to function fail-proof. //Staffay Just a quick tip here Anton, make sure that the internal sound-card is turned off in bios (if existing such), also turn off shadowing in the bios. Network cards seems to interfere with audio-cards, especially wireless ones, so when I'm recording I kinda disable everything in the computer that hasn't anything to do with recording. An ultimate solution is to make a machine-profile for just recording - leaving all unnecessary extensions out. //Staffay Thanks Staffay, Yeah, i think i did have internal sound off. I don't think my Bios has option for "shadowing". To be honest i think it was a clear case of bundled CRAPLOAD of software and hardware. 'Cause my comp has been stable since i got it, which is going on 3-years now. This is a first time i'm reinstalling OS on it. And God knows i agree with you, i really need a separate machine for audio work. I need some extra $$ to build a PC for this purpose, so there would be nothing else at all except that interface installed and software required for work (effects, amp mods, whatever...). I'll keep you guys updated on how this battle with my EMU going.... But you know, if i get it to work good, its an ultimate interface for PC users - IMHO. Quality is nothing short of Amazing, and whole USB/FireWire problem is taken totally out of the equation. None of the 3 FireWire boxes i've tried worked worth a crap. I think its the DELL's (Or mobo-manufacturers, or my FireWire-card manufacturers) problem to be honest. If i had a Mac i'd get a MOTU or something, people say it an amazing interface if you're using a Mac. Lets see how this works. I pray to God i have enough brains to operate it. Thanks for your input guys! p.s. Staffay, by "Texas Instruments" you mean the FireWire chip? -------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Apr 10 2010, 04:38 PM
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QUOTE (antonskv @ Apr 10 2010, 04:49 PM) Thanks Staffay, Yeah, i think i did have internal sound off. I don't think my Bios has option for "shadowing". To be honest i think it was a clear case of bundled CRAPLOAD of software and hardware. 'Cause my comp has been stable since i got it, which is going on 3-years now. This is a first time i'm reinstalling OS on it. And God knows i agree with you, i really need a separate machine for audio work. I need some extra $$ to build a PC for this purpose, so there would be nothing else at all except that interface installed and software required for work (effects, amp mods, whatever...). I'll keep you guys updated on how this battle with my EMU going.... But you know, if i get it to work good, its an ultimate interface for PC users - IMHO. Quality is nothing short of Amazing, and whole USB/FireWire problem is taken totally out of the equation. None of the 3 FireWire boxes i've tried worked worth a crap. I think its the DELL's (Or mobo-manufacturers, or my FireWire-card manufacturers) problem to be honest. If i had a Mac i'd get a MOTU or something, people say it an amazing interface if you're using a Mac. Lets see how this works. I pray to God i have enough brains to operate it. Thanks for your input guys! p.s. Staffay, by "Texas Instruments" you mean the FireWire chip? Yeah, I mean the Firewire chip. I'm currently running TC-Electronics Konnect 48 as well as Powercore via firewire on stationary computer with Windows XP. I also own a Presonus Studiolive that operates via Firewire, and never had any struggle with none of them. A "clean" system is a must when running audio, and I dont think You will have any issues in the future with this card, other that trying to understand the patch-mix, which is a piece of software that I don't think even the developer understands.....  But once set properly, it works like a dream!!!//Staffay This post has been edited by Staffy: Apr 10 2010, 04:39 PM -------------------- Guitars: Ibanez AM-200, Ibanez GB-10, Fender Stratocaster Classic Player, Warmouth Custom Built, Suhr Classic Strat, Gibson Les Paul Standard 2003, Ibanez steel-string Amps: Fender Hot Rod Deluxe, Marshall JMP 2103, AER 60 Effects: BOSS DD-20, Danelectro Trans. Overdrive, TC-Electronics G-Major, Dunlop Wah-wah, Original SansAmp, BOSS DD-2 Music by Staffy can be found at: Staffay at MySpace |
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Apr 10 2010, 06:43 PM
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QUOTE (Staffy @ Apr 10 2010, 11:38 AM) Yeah, I mean the Firewire chip. I'm currently running TC-Electronics Konnect 48 as well as Powercore via firewire on stationary computer with Windows XP. I also own a Presonus Studiolive that operates via Firewire, and never had any struggle with none of them. A "clean" system is a must when running audio, and I dont think You will have any issues in the future with this card, other that trying to understand the patch-mix, which is a piece of software that I don't think even the developer understands..... But once set properly, it works like a dream!!!//Staffay *Sighs*.... Yeah, i know.... I've been trying to make it work for hours and hours.... Thank God i don't have a gun, I'd shoot my brains out. Nothing i find online, forums, docs, examples, how-to's - nothing works. It just doesn't want to. Oh i didn't spend $500 to use 1616m as a door stopper.... I'm sure in next 2-3 months i can find some extra money to just pay somebody to remote into my box and set it up. I bit much more than i can chew this time, unfortunately. Hey at least this shit works, no more blue screens, no more nothing... But now i got no sound at all, 'cause any sound card installed on same box breaks 1616m right on the spot. Funny, how for example in the forum post, there is a step by step guide for setting it for Wave recording or how to set it up as main sound card for Windows (playback) and it just does nothing. I see replies "OMG thank you so much this fixed everything!" and here the most it can do is to sound off in my headphones from Mic input, though whole How-To was done step by step while checking and re-checking every step 3-5 times to make sure its done right. I waited 17-months for this interface.... Would be such a damn shame to return it...... I'll shut my face now, before somebody tells me to go whine somewhere else..... -------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Apr 10 2010, 08:46 PM
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I'm using M-audio Fasttrack and it's a really recommendable product. Maybe you should have it in mind
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Apr 11 2010, 07:00 AM
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QUOTE (antonskv @ Apr 10 2010, 07:43 PM) *Sighs*.... Yeah, i know.... I've been trying to make it work for hours and hours.... Thank God i don't have a gun, I'd shoot my brains out. Nothing i find online, forums, docs, examples, how-to's - nothing works. It just doesn't want to. Oh i didn't spend $500 to use 1616m as a door stopper.... I'm sure in next 2-3 months i can find some extra money to just pay somebody to remote into my box and set it up. I bit much more than i can chew this time, unfortunately. Hey at least this shit works, no more blue screens, no more nothing... But now i got no sound at all, 'cause any sound card installed on same box breaks 1616m right on the spot. Funny, how for example in the forum post, there is a step by step guide for setting it for Wave recording or how to set it up as main sound card for Windows (playback) and it just does nothing. I see replies "OMG thank you so much this fixed everything!" and here the most it can do is to sound off in my headphones from Mic input, though whole How-To was done step by step while checking and re-checking every step 3-5 times to make sure its done right. I waited 17-months for this interface.... Would be such a damn shame to return it...... I'll shut my face now, before somebody tells me to go whine somewhere else..... I used my 1212m in two computers and never had any issues setting it up - except for the routing in patch-mix. What I can recall, I did google for some ready-made templates that fitted my Cubase, and then it just worked. Later I was learning how the software worked and was able to do my own set-ups. I think this sounds really strange, maybe there is a cpmpatibility issue or something. Have You installed the drivers as well?? //Staffay -------------------- Guitars: Ibanez AM-200, Ibanez GB-10, Fender Stratocaster Classic Player, Warmouth Custom Built, Suhr Classic Strat, Gibson Les Paul Standard 2003, Ibanez steel-string Amps: Fender Hot Rod Deluxe, Marshall JMP 2103, AER 60 Effects: BOSS DD-20, Danelectro Trans. Overdrive, TC-Electronics G-Major, Dunlop Wah-wah, Original SansAmp, BOSS DD-2 Music by Staffy can be found at: Staffay at MySpace |
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Apr 11 2010, 12:16 PM
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QUOTE (antonskv @ Apr 10 2010, 11:54 AM) ... STOP: 0x0000008E (0x00000005, 0xAFAE4077, 0xADFBE96C, 0x00000000) *** ha20x2k.sys - Address AFAE4077 base at AFA6C000, DateStamp 49a22132 Beginning Dump of Physical Memory..... ... Pretty certain that error report is saying that you have corrupt Windows Registry because of the 0x0000008e comment. The other possibility again from the 0x00000008e is a RAM isssue. Oh and the ha20x2k.sys suggests that the cause is a Creative/EMU driver. First thing to check here would be that your 161m has the most up to date drivers. This post has been edited by tonymiro: Apr 11 2010, 12:07 PM -------------------- Get your music professionally mastered by anl AES registered Mastering Engineer. Contact me for Audio Mastering Services and Advice and visit our website www.miromastering.com
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Apr 11 2010, 01:56 PM
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I also recommend clean reinstall, and making XP as your OS for music production. Now, I'm not sure if other systems are stable by now, probably yes, but still I wouldn't consider changing to W7 for now. Making dual boot seems like a good solution, and the PC will use only the recourse needed for that purpose.
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Apr 12 2010, 02:43 AM
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QUOTE (Ivan Milenkovic @ Apr 11 2010, 08:56 AM) I also recommend clean reinstall, and making XP as your OS for music production. Now, I'm not sure if other systems are stable by now, probably yes, but still I wouldn't consider changing to W7 for now. Making dual boot seems like a good solution, and the PC will use only the recourse needed for that purpose. If there is anything I can help with PatchMix, let me know, it may be a bit tricky at first, but it is awesome. Hi Ivan, (And Staffay, and everybody else,) I just realized i wasted almost entire setting up something that was already working.... Shesh.... Well problem was... I needed some kind of windows microphone which i didn't have 'cause of EMU. Reason for that is: E-MU doesn't want to work if there ANY kind of sound card installed along with it. So i even had to take my sound blaster card off my comp, leaving 1616 only sound device on the comp. But since i don't have dedicated comp for audio, i still need a comp that i can use Skype on and maybe use for Video Recording too as i have done in the past with UX1. Naturally... I figured maybe i could use EMU with connected condenser mic i got for regular wave recording. So i open up my web cam software, then selected "E-DSP Wave [CCC0]" only device that was there, then did following: 1. Made sure mic is connected 2. Made sure headphones and monitors are connected 3. Tapped the mic few times and heard the taps from headphones/monitors Problem was i didn't see the any reaction in webcam software (There is a monitor line that responds usually when there is a signal from the mic). I spent about 20 hours trying to make that line respond.... Then just gave up. That was my last post. Now about 1 hour ago.... My friend calls me through Skype. I talk to him for about 20 mins. Then when i hang up.... I realize... "What the hell?! How did i just speak to him if my mic is not working?!". And so it is... Mic works great, just doesn't show responses in the Web Cam software. I opened my video recording software along with my amp and pedals, strummed some chords.... And Voila! Played back and was happy to hear it recorded everything. Well i have saved the Default setup with all the strips to a file to make sure i don't loose it while screwing around with PatchMix... But so far no problems are present. I have freshly installed Windows XP with SP3. I don't intend to use Windows 7 until EMU has a stable version of Win7 drivers. Thanks for offering to help with PatchMix Ivan, i'll write to you if i have any questions. Thanks everybody for their input, it pleases me to see such strong community here. Many thanks. -------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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