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Jensen
post Apr 20 2010, 08:23 AM
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Could anyone give me some tips how to create heavy, experimental but yet melodic kind of sounds?

Kinda hard to explain, but I'm in a band, and none of us really knows much about music/theory and such. Our biggest influense is maybe Cult of Luna, a swedish rock/experimental/metal..ish kind of band
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSxIRU1BJo8

So, what I'm asking is really, how would you start construct melodies? which scales are most suited for that kind of music? and maybe more importantly, how can I construct a chord progression from a certain scale? argh, so many questions tongue.gif I'm a newbie musician I know tongue.gif
I've been trying to read some theory, but it's so hard to understand it.. :/

Any help would be appriciated!

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post Apr 20 2010, 09:32 AM
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Could anyone give me some tips how to create heavy, experimental but yet melodic kind of sounds?

Kinda hard to explain, but I'm in a band, and none of us really knows much about music/theory and such. Our biggest influense is maybe Cult of Luna, a swedish rock/experimental/metal..ish kind of band
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSxIRU1BJo8

So, what I'm asking is really, how would you start construct melodies? which scales are most suited for that kind of music? and maybe more importantly, how can I construct a chord progression from a certain scale? argh, so many questions tongue.gif I'm a newbie musician I know tongue.gif
I've been trying to read some theory, but it's so hard to understand it.. :/

Any help would be appriciated!


I will suggest to transcribe and play some of the music You like, then You will understand how it is constructed. Begin with an easy song and then move on to more challenging ones.

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post Apr 20 2010, 10:01 AM
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I completely agree with Staffy. Creating your own songs require a lots work, and if you want to have something really great, you should know the basics. Once you have down the basics of understanding theory and composing, you can start experimenting with your own stuff. All of your questions are covered here on GMC, just look around a bit.
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post Apr 20 2010, 03:20 PM
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I think reading some theory book and songwriting book will definitely help, but as Staffy and Zsolt said, you won't know the true meaning of the stuff written there unless you write a whole bunch of songs. Remember - not all songs are supposed to be hits, and you cannot force them to be. Most of them are just for practice wink.gif
If you want something specific, learn diatonic theory, modes, chords, and learn harmonic minor scale after that. It's plenty of material for study and practice, but it's only the basics really..

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post Apr 21 2010, 03:18 AM
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I would also add to experiment yourself with whatever you want, starting from the sound of your instrument, to, for example, cromatic scales. I assume you like Tool as well, isn't it? You should play with time signatures too.


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post Apr 27 2010, 12:13 PM
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thanks for the help guys. I almost gave up music there for a while.. guess I just had some bad days. I know I'll regret it later if I don't continue playing guitar/create music.

I guess there's no shortcuts to make great music, I just gotta get more experienced, and read more theory.. ><

Every time I really focus on reading theory, I get so frustrated! It's really hard to understand much of it, so much to learn, and there's no end to it :/
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post May 4 2010, 09:12 PM
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Stay with it smile.gif It isn't easy, at first. Once you get through this hump, you'll be a much better player. Staffy does have a great point, deconstructing songs you like is a great way to figure out how a song is built. PIck some tunes you enjoy and pick them apart. Being able to play them, even just the chords by ear, is a great start on understanding song construction.

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