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Mister_Riff
post Apr 25 2010, 12:22 PM
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Hello GMC

I got myself a new toy biggrin.gif ... a G Major 2 from TC electronics. The effects are top notch and everything I need comes in a little box, so I couldn't be happier.

I have messed around for quite a while and have come across some questions that maybe some other people have had .... So I thought I'd create a topic where people new to the whole multi-effectsworld could ask questions and people who know the answers could answer them.


my questions:
- I'm searching for a lead tone and have set up a simple delay that repeats my signal 4 times. Now I'm searching to add a reverb so that I have that "80's metal-lead" tone ... Which type would suit my needs? I was thinking hall but the parameters are a bit too much for me, maybe some things that I should keep in mind? (decay, predelay, shape, size, ...)

- I'm also searching for the sound in this example but am puzzled about which effects it has .... (example: OST) : I'm hearing a delay and a chorus but how to set up the chorus totally escapes me tongue.gif

some of the chorus parameters in the G major that I can set up:
type: Advanced/classic
speed:
depth:
tempo:
high cut:
delay:
mix:
out level:

Also anyone that has a G major 2 and would like to share some of their patches would be GODLIKE biggrin.gif

Answers and tips are much appreciated and feel free to ask your own questions wink.gif



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post Apr 26 2010, 12:11 AM
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That's pro gear man, congrats!


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post Apr 26 2010, 04:04 PM
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There should be some specific info in the manual for the G Major. General pointers for the reverb if it helps though are:

Predelay - adjusts the delay between the dry signal and start of the reverb. Low values tend to increase the presence of the dry signal and overall it can help focus/blur the mixed signal.

Early reflections - literally that - the initial reflections formed - also look at the reverb tail which contains a lot of the late and complicated reflection pattern. To get a good, natural sounding reverb you need to experiment with mixing the two and it's usually best to start with adjusting the early (and simpler) reflections. Sometimes it can be best to only use the early reflections if you are working in a 'lively' recording space which has a lot of natural reverb - if you mix in too much processed reverb you can easily get a very muddy/smeared sound.

Shape - at a guess I assume they mean the ADSR envelop - ie alters the character of the reverb.

Size - probably room size, front to back, and so affects reflection time, depth and so on.

Width - stereo separation.

Room type - Literally that. Some room types will sound neutral/dry, some will sound lively. Some room materials will absorb certain parts of the audio spectrum and/or increase the reflection time, some will reflect it very quickly and may provide an almost metallic quality: it largely depends on which low frequency/ies dominate for the room. Very large open spaces tend to be dominated by the mid range. Experiment and see which you like.

One thing I would say wrt recording rather than using a reverb live - subtlety is nearly always best. Reverb is very difficult to remove and too much reverb/too many different types can result in a very messy, blurred sound.


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post Apr 26 2010, 06:46 PM
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QUOTE (tonymiro @ Apr 26 2010, 05:04 PM) *
One thing I would say wrt recording rather than using a reverb live - subtlety is nearly always best. Reverb is very difficult to remove and too much reverb/too many different types can result in a very messy, blurred sound.


I agree 100% with tony, and just want to add that same goes for live. If you need spacious sound, it's better to use a nice mid-focused delay then to smear things up with reverb. Live venues usually introduce "real" reverb, often it is completely unnecessary adding emulated one on top of it. Spend some time analyzing the room acoustics where the amp is being heard, and you can spot exactly what you need from space effects and what not.


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post Apr 27 2010, 07:33 PM
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Thx for the reply's

I've now used the dual delay so that the 2 delay's kinda "bounce" of each other ... this gives off a real nice fat sound cool.gif

I really recommend the G major 2 for people looking to replace their pedalboards for a hiss-free solution, or people like me who are only searching for simple effects ... but like to experiment with random effects once in a while. Especially the intelligent harmonizer is out of this world. biggrin.gif


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ENGL Ritchie Blackmore/Framus Cabinet (V30's)
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Line 6 POD 2.0
lot's of pedals
TC Electronics G Major 2

Recording and such:
BOSS BR-600
BOSS DR-880
Digitech JamMan
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Ivan Milenkovic
post Apr 27 2010, 09:26 PM
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I'll check it out soon, I like effects, and this could save me lots of hassles for live shows. Thanks! smile.gif


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