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Ivan Milenkovic
post Apr 28 2010, 09:30 PM
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Even if it is not a scam, they earn money from it, their goal is certainly not to invest in all the bands they contact, or to give everything to charity. Their goal is to take original author material and financial means, create something in return (that they are capable of, and doesn't require that much money on their side, they are probably in the business anyway), and they take percentage. Nothing wrong with that, you just have to see if their service is worth that much money.


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post Apr 28 2010, 09:50 PM
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QUOTE (purple hayes @ Apr 28 2010, 04:25 PM) *
@tonymiro - I think a good analogy is that you can mow your lawn yourself and invest your time to save money or you can pay someone else to mow your lawn, thus saving your time. In the end, you grass still gets cut.


+1 I definitely agree to this - it must be set in comparison what time and effort You have to put in Yourself to get the same result, and what that will cost You in time and loss of money - hence if You can work instead for twice as much as it cost to buy their services on a per/hour basis - then its worth it. Personally I dont mow the lawn, I dont do any snow in the winter, I have people clean my house etc. , since it will cost me more to do it by myself than having other people do it....

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post Apr 29 2010, 12:29 AM
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It doesn't sound like scam to me at all. For the price they are asking and things that they offer in return, it definitely makes sense to me. You are paying them to put your music on compilation CD that people will (one way or the other) hear and (perhaps) notice your music. So what you are essentially getting is the chance to get your music out there (in right places with all the marketing and distribution done for you!!!) for OK price. Think about it. If I had a band that had original music to offer, I would do that 100%, I am positive. Self marketing via social networking sites can only take you so far, plus it is very much time consuming. It is good to have somebody to do all those things for you and you can then just worry about playing, composing, performance and enjoy the music you play!

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post Apr 29 2010, 01:46 AM
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http://business.songstuff.com/articles.php?selected=80
http://www.ehow.com/how_4494905_avoid-musi...ness-scams.html


Now, on the positive and constructive side, there is a wealth of info here...

http://www.starpolish.com/advice/

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post Apr 29 2010, 11:42 AM
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QUOTE (purple hayes @ Apr 28 2010, 02:25 PM) *
@tonymiro - I think a good analogy is that you can mow your lawn yourself and invest your time to save money or you can pay someone else to mow your lawn, thus saving your time. In the end, you grass still gets cut.


laugh.gif - says nice and succinctly and without the numbers what I tried to laugh.gif

Also reminds me of the Zappa song - Watermelon in Easter Hay - it had the lyric, 'He used to be such a very nice boy. He used to cut my grass'

Oh and by the way rather like the sceptical articles that Rob links above I was gently trying to point out that the chance of making back the 225 dollars is very low. Companies like this make most of their money from the groups/musicians paying them to be included on the cd and not from the digital sales of the content.

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post Apr 30 2010, 01:35 AM
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Generally I have seen on lots of social groups possibilities to be included on some compilation cds (free of charge of course). Maybe you should scan a little bit myspace,facebook for such opportunities and then apply. This (since its not scam) can be a nice opportunity to have your song featured on a compilation cd (and to get some free cds of it to give away)...If you've got the money you can do it. I wouldn't expect any real offers from record labels,radio stations play or something from it but you never know with music what can come up.



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post Apr 30 2010, 03:47 AM
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Haha, I'm not expecting any record deals. I like to think of myself as a realist when it comes to success in music.

I'm just happy that someone might have liked a song I wrote xD But we are going to talk about it this saturday to decide if we are going to spend the cash or not.


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Good luck whatever you decide. smile.gif


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post May 3 2010, 04:14 PM
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well man, my experience says: do not do that.
everything they offer, you can do it by your own. even paying nothing. the internet has good and bad stuff, it has been discussed here many times, so, one of the good things it has: you can be your own small producer. you can contact every online store and put your songs there. try to think as a real band producer, would you spend that money on this to get more money at the end? I think you wont. I'd save that money to record a new album, or I'd make a video for one song.
real producers put the money for you, they don't ask for your money.


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post May 5 2010, 07:56 AM
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Here's a thought:

Do you own licensing and master rights to your music? If so, use Tunecore to digitally distribute your album to online stores, and write or get written, some catchy press release blurbs. Then have your band members hit up a bunch of music review blogs, twitter, etc. Build some hype, use your fanbase to help, and get attention to your forthcoming 'release' in the digital stores.

DIY: $30-50, and your own album is available in online stores, rather than $200 to get some cds (which won't go far) and one track on a compilation which may never get heard.


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QUOTE (jafomatic @ Apr 27 2010, 10:13 PM) *
Without knowing for sure, my reaction is one of logic:

- Marketing at the scale this company is suggesting requires capital.
- Capital means they don't need money from you.


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post May 7 2010, 03:29 PM
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QUOTE (OzRob @ May 5 2010, 08:56 AM) *
Here's a thought:

Do you own licensing and master rights to your music? If so, use Tunecore to digitally distribute your album to online stores, and write or get written, some catchy press release blurbs. Then have your band members hit up a bunch of music review blogs, twitter, etc. Build some hype, use your fanbase to help, and get attention to your forthcoming 'release' in the digital stores.

DIY: $30-50, and your own album is available in online stores, rather than $200 to get some cds (which won't go far) and one track on a compilation which may never get heard.


Yeah 250$ is really a nice budget to do some internet marketing. You should invest it into making a good web site/myspace/facebook profiles. You should make a cool cover for your EP (Demo album) and get it to online stores via some of services like Tunecore etc (around 50$). You could invest into facebook ads/google ads for your bands page for example to get exposure (or bands web site). Go around forums and post about your band....I guess you could bring more of good promotion that way rather getting lost in some compilation cd between many bands.


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