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lefthandman
post Apr 27 2010, 11:41 PM
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about a month or two ago i realized that i was using all arm when i alternate pick, probably as a result from learning to play with a poor down picking technique. I have spent an hr or more each night on my alternate picking technique for the last month and a half; however, i cannot seem to get my arm to stop moving when i pick. Does anybody known anyway that i might fix this?
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post Apr 28 2010, 12:28 AM
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You will fix it in time, it cannot happen overnight. In a year or two it will pass, just focus to do your picking from the wrist. Don't worry about it wink.gif


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post Apr 28 2010, 02:54 AM
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It's good that you are aware of what's going on.

Just don't fall into the bad habit of not correcting what you know it's not right, and fix it now. Even if it gets in the way of your practicing session


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post Apr 28 2010, 06:35 AM
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Start slow, with slow tempo (let's say 60bpm) whatever you are working on. Start to re-educate your wrist and arm, and the most important thing, be patient wink.gif


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You need to start very slow and really concentrate and force your arm not to move.

In a while you will notice it feels more natural


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You can try to practice picking while putting Your wrist to rest on the bridge (if possible, if there is no Trem), otherwise the wrist can rest on the body of the guitar. I even think that Guthrie suggests this is in one of his books, however the arm shall be able to move in different positions later, because of the sound You wanna obtain by picking on different spots on the string.

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post Apr 29 2010, 12:55 PM
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Try adding some practice time using techniques such as "Economic Picking" to help your brain stay flexible on your picking technique. Also, planting your palm on the bridge to palm mute the strings you aren't picking can help reduce random string noise.

It will take some practice but you can do it smile.gif Start trying to pick from the wrist and do it very slowly and work your way up.

Also, join me for a video chat lesson this Saturday as we are talking about ALTERNATE PICKING! smile.gif

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post May 10 2010, 04:02 AM
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Thanks for all the suggestions guys. Ive been tryin it since the post 1st went up. Its gone a bit better but still have work to go. Patience is definitely being practiced biggrin.gif
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post May 15 2010, 01:37 PM
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QUOTE (lefthandman @ May 10 2010, 05:02 AM) *
Thanks for all the suggestions guys. Ive been tryin it since the post 1st went up. Its gone a bit better but still have work to go. Patience is definitely being practiced biggrin.gif


Since you identified the problem you already done the very important part. Now its time to hit the exercises and practice slowly looking and concentrating at the picking hands wrist movement. I'm sure with some dedicated practice sessions you will be able to fix the issue relatively fast.


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QUOTE (lefthandman @ Apr 27 2010, 11:41 PM) *
about a month or two ago i realized that i was using all arm when i alternate pick, probably as a result from learning to play with a poor down picking technique. I have spent an hr or more each night on my alternate picking technique for the last month and a half; however, i cannot seem to get my arm to stop moving when i pick. Does anybody known anyway that i might fix this?

do you rest your pinky on your guitar or not
if you do there will always be some movement in your arm, even if the majority of your picking comes from you wrist

Can you play what you are trying to or if there is alot of pain after practicing would determine if you need to change

changing styles is a very long process so make sure that is what is wrong
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post May 17 2010, 12:07 PM
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QUOTE (lefthandman @ Apr 27 2010, 11:41 PM) *
about a month or two ago i realized that i was using all arm when i alternate pick, probably as a result from learning to play with a poor down picking technique. I have spent an hr or more each night on my alternate picking technique for the last month and a half; however, i cannot seem to get my arm to stop moving when i pick. Does anybody known anyway that i might fix this?


Yeah, as Ivan said it can't happen overnight. You should play simple scalar pattens in which you go from low E to top E and vice cersa, and also, 2-3 strings patterns in which focus will be on playing from the wrist.


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post May 19 2010, 05:18 AM
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post May 24 2010, 04:58 AM
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Todd here smile.gif For Alternate Picking I'd suggest gripping the pick so that not much pick is sticking out. Try to get the point of the pick to point out at a 90 degre angle from your thumb. Here is a picture to demonstrate.



Also, here are some things to try.

ALTERNATE PICKING TIPS AND TRICKS
1.)Choke up on the pick. Only the point should be sticking out.
2.)Don't pick from the elbow! Control the motion from your wrist or fingers.
3.)Try a very heavy pick, 1.2 MM or greater so as to eliminate "flex" in the pick.
4.)Try to sharpen your pick to a point with sandpaper or dremmel or what not so that the surface area
striking the string is as small as possible. There are some "training" picks that are shaped this way on purpose.
5.)Work with a metronome ALWAYS so that you keep your picking even.

6.)MOST IMPORTANT: Join me this saturday and every saturday for a live VIDEO CHAT lesson on ALTERNATE PICKING. We have been doing a series on that very topic for several weeks now. Here are the notes so far. Many great workouts to try.

LESSON NOTES ON GMC FOR MY ALTERNATE PICKING SERIES

Above all
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post Jun 4 2010, 11:21 PM
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On the other hand, don't go to other extreme and play only from the wrist.
Your wrist motions only cover 2-3 strings so you have to move your arm as a reference point.


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