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post May 10 2010, 03:55 PM
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when you start learning alternate picking and you must use the pick angle that means you should turn ur pick about 110 degrees right?
my problem is that is makes accent the first beat a lot harder
or do is miss the point here ?
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post May 10 2010, 04:09 PM
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I wouldn't turn it that far. Turning the pick as if you were turning a key in a lock, say 45 degrees clockwise, has a few results:

1. it will change the tone of the attack (no impact on speed)
2. it will allow you to pick with less resistance (great impact on speed)
3. it may cause you to insert the pick less deeply below the strings (greater impact on speed)

As you have mentioned this with "start learning" then I don't think you need to reduce the resistance of the pick attack yet, since you should be starting out slowly. When you hit a barrier in tempo, that will be the time to adjust your pick angle and depth of insertion.

Also of note, accenting the first beat is sometimes quite a good thing to do. Some songs won't call for it but an alternate picking exercise that is PURE exercise? That accent will make it sound more like music and will end up being another type of good practice.



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post May 10 2010, 04:13 PM
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QUOTE (jafomatic @ May 10 2010, 03:09 PM) *
I wouldn't turn it that far. Turning the pick as if you were turning a key in a lock, say 45 degrees clockwise, has a few results:

1. it will change the tone of the attack (no impact on speed)
2. it will allow you to pick with less resistance (great impact on speed)
3. it may cause you to insert the pick less deeply below the strings (greater impact on speed)

As you have mentioned this with "start learning" then I don't think you need to reduce the resistance of the pick attack yet, since you should be starting out slowly. When you hit a barrier in tempo, that will be the time to adjust your pick angle and depth of insertion.

Also of note, accenting the first beat is sometimes quite a good thing to do. Some songs won't call for it but an alternate picking exercise that is PURE exercise? That accent will make it sound more like music and will end up being another type of good practice.


ty for the info ye 110 was too much i misscalculated i think i held it on 80 degrees which i also too much hehe dry.gif
got still a long way to go biggrin.gif
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post May 10 2010, 04:35 PM
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I guess you are used to accenting that first beat which is quite cool IMO. As you practice you could try moving those accents to different positions, for example accenting every 2nd or 3rd beat. It will be a nice time and counting exercise then.


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QUOTE (guitarX @ May 10 2010, 03:55 PM) *
when you start learning alternate picking and you must use the pick angle that means you should turn ur pick about 110 degrees right?
my problem is that is makes accent the first beat a lot harder
or do is miss the point here ?

now one person holds the pick the same
I don't have any angle
You will have to experiment and as you will progress it will probably change
just as you try different types make sure you don't have alot of pain ,es. pain that persists after you have stopped playing
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post May 10 2010, 04:46 PM
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ye acceting other beats of a bar would be good for my rythm too
i know everyone holds the pick a little different but i didnt quite understand the angle of a pick and accenting it that way but now i do
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post May 11 2010, 06:10 PM
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if you find it hard to accent any beat because of pick position maybe it's not a good position, because it doesn't have anything to do with the timing

you should be able to accent freely without thinking on that


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