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post May 11 2010, 11:34 PM
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Marshall have started to manufacture their new seies of amps JMD, based on a pre-amp made by the Swedish software company Softtubes and their own power-tubes. They are supposed to deliver all "classic" Marshall sounds. Read more here.

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post May 11 2010, 11:37 PM
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post May 11 2010, 11:38 PM
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HORRIBLE AMPS!

I have tried them on the Musikmesse Frankfurt and they are really worse than Line 6, Peavey, Roland and Vox modelers...


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post May 11 2010, 11:58 PM
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I'm sceptical, it feels fresh to work on developing a preamp but not just yet for me... it's too early. I havn't left the 80's yet and "software preamp" isn't in my dictionary laugh.gif

I read a magazine saying they were a bit pricy.


Let's just say I can't see a number performed by someone on that new Raw maple Gibson LP and a JMD and take the act serious wink.gif


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post May 12 2010, 12:24 AM
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I had Softtubes Amproom as a plug for 30 days free in my Powercore processor, and I wasnt that impressed, GR4, Amplitube and others is far better.... (and cheaper) So why should this one be different????

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post May 12 2010, 12:32 AM
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this is really sad news, i really "like" the vox valvetronix on the modelers category, i think they are kind of warm, didn't expected less from marshall ..

in the other hand, i'm getting a class 5 this next month smile.gif


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QUOTE (Adrian Figallo @ May 12 2010, 01:32 AM) *
this is really sad news, i really "like" the vox valvetronix on the modelers category, i think they are kind of warm, didn't expected less from marshall ..

in the other hand, i'm getting a class 5 this next month smile.gif


I've never tried the Valvetronix in a band context, but I have this Tonelab ST which I think is an excellent modeller for very little money.

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post May 12 2010, 03:06 AM
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Marshall is just trying to stay "current" and embrace amp modeling like every other vendor, but the fact is, most modeling presets have several "Marshall" type sounds in them as they are trying to sound like an actual Marshall. I wish Marshall would realize that it sets standards and stop trying to copy what other vendors are doing. For live sound, Marshall Amps are just great. So are Mesa Boogie amps. I hope they get back to their roots and focus on making great tube amps that go to 11.

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QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ May 11 2010, 09:06 PM) *
Marshall is just trying to stay "current" and embrace amp modeling like every other vendor, but the fact is, most modeling presets have several "Marshall" type sounds in them as they are trying to sound like an actual Marshall. I wish Marshall would realize that it sets standards and stop trying to copy what other vendors are doing. For live sound, Marshall Amps are just great. So are Mesa Boogie amps. I hope they get back to their roots and focus on making great tube amps that go to 11.

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+1 man! totally agree, they need to see they already got a place in history, and continue making classics not copying new trends.
but... it should be all about money.. it is always


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post May 12 2010, 07:52 AM
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These amps are bad, even the salesman at my local shop told me to get anything but this series. Even the MA or HZ should be a lot better!


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post May 12 2010, 09:03 AM
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QUOTE (ZakkWylde @ May 11 2010, 11:38 PM) *
HORRIBLE AMPS!

I have tried them on the Musikmesse Frankfurt and they are really worse than Line 6, Peavey, Roland and Vox modelers...


laugh.gif Not sitting on the fence then Zakk? laugh.gif

I've played one quite extensively and whilst it didnt do it for me I thnk its a reasonable effort at combining the two technologies, too many pre amp settings for me though. Unfortunately I think at the price point there is too much that would appeal more from the likes of Blackstar etc.
It definitely isnt as bad as a spider though! smile.gif
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QUOTE (sted @ May 12 2010, 08:03 AM) *
laugh.gif Not sitting on the fence then Zakk? laugh.gif

I've played one quite extensively and whilst it didnt do it for me I thnk its a reasonable effort at combining the two technologies, too many pre amp settings for me though. Unfortunately I think at the price point there is too much that would appeal more from the likes of Blackstar etc.
It definitely isnt as bad as a spider though! smile.gif


Lol Marshall couldnt make such a bad amp as a spider..
Although Line6 has alot of experience with modeling


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QUOTE (Skewlbuzz @ May 12 2010, 07:52 AM) *
These amps are bad, even the salesman at my local shop told me to get anything but this series. Even the MA or HZ should be a lot better!

haha that says a lot


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Oh man I wish they went for other direction. But I'm sure they just wanted to stay competitive to other brands by making this amp....Good luck they still have their top amps and I hope they'll work more on creating great ones in the future rather going for the modeling path..


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I like the fact that valves are now in the power section instead of preamp section, so you can crank it and probably get a nice tone, but software preamp? It's too early for that, but who knows..


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post May 13 2010, 02:24 PM
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Hey guys, basically, what is preamp? I hear people talk about having things hooked to their preamps, I think? Is it that smaller piece of equipment that sits on top of the amp? Is it that the amp is connected to the preamp, which is then connected to the soundcard on the computer? Please help me out. smile.gif


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QUOTE (thefireball @ May 13 2010, 03:24 PM) *
Hey guys, basically, what is preamp? I hear people talk about having things hooked to their preamps, I think? Is it that smaller piece of equipment that sits on top of the amp? Is it that the amp is connected to the preamp, which is then connected to the soundcard on the computer? Please help me out. smile.gif


The guitar signal first goes into the preamp, this is where the sound is shaped with your EQ section (+ more) from the preamp the signal goes into the power amp which amplifies the signal into the sound that runt to your speakers.

The between the pre- and poweramp many amps have an effects section , called effects loop, where you can put pedals.


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and that's right smile.gif.


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Signal (current) that is being sent from pickups has to be amplified several times before reaching the speakers. Amplifier does just that - it amplifies the current from pickups. This current is very weak, and amp's job is to make it very strong in order to drive the bulky speakers and make it loud. This is done is stages. Usually there are two stages - preamp and poweramp. Preamp takes instrument signal/current, and amplifies it just enough so that it can pass it to power amp. Power amp then takes this current and amplifies it even more in order to drive the speakers.

Most of tone shaping options are located in the preamp section (EQ, drive etc..), BUT with tube amps, power tube saturation is REAL overdrive sound. This is why you have to play tube amps loud - to start overdriving the power tubes. Compared to saturation from preamp tube it sounds natural and "real", while preamp overdrive usually sounds a bit buzzy compared to power tubes. But preamp tubes can saturate at lower volumes, so this is why it is important to have a good preamp section - so you can play your amp and have good sound on all volume settings - not only on full throttle (which is usually too loud for everyday use).


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