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post May 18 2010, 05:03 PM
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QUOTE (Adrian Figallo @ May 18 2010, 10:52 AM) *
it will look amazing with those colores, the important thing is, you have to pick carefully the shade of the blues, it is the most important part.

now if you wanna go with something secure, just check for some finished paint jobs out there smile.gif


I think so too...something along these lines!


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post May 18 2010, 05:05 PM
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Surely you guys have seen swirled guitars before right? Vai's DNA model is what made these popular..... smile.gif
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post May 18 2010, 05:12 PM
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QUOTE (lcsdds @ May 18 2010, 12:05 PM) *
Surely you guys have seen swirled guitars before right? Vai's DNA model is what made these popular..... smile.gif


Sure we have seen them...but never saw how it was done before. I for one, can't wait to try doing some swirling myself! I just ordered two used bodies on ebay to give it a shot!


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post May 18 2010, 05:21 PM
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Very cool. From what I've seen on other message boards it can be kind of tricky. Can't wait to see how it turns out....... cool.gif
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post May 18 2010, 06:30 PM
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QUOTE (lcsdds @ May 18 2010, 12:21 PM) *
Very cool. From what I've seen on other message boards it can be kind of tricky. Can't wait to see how it turns out....... cool.gif


Seems like it is much tougher than it looks. I bought a DVD showing step by step how to do it. I will document it and keep you guys posted!


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post May 18 2010, 07:21 PM
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It looks too easy to me on this video.
It would be cool to try!
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post May 18 2010, 07:51 PM
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Let us know how it works out man, I'm interested in checking it out. If you could take some pictures with your phone/cam, it would be great too! biggrin.gif


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post May 18 2010, 09:25 PM
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QUOTE (Ivan Milenkovic @ May 18 2010, 02:51 PM) *
Let us know how it works out man, I'm interested in checking it out. If you could take some pictures with your phone/cam, it would be great too! biggrin.gif


Once I get all the materials together I'll take lots of pics and put it all together in a "report" for everyone!


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post May 18 2010, 10:20 PM
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from my experience with paint, be sure to leave the first clear coat, and it can be tricky, take the original paint with some light sand paper (it will take time), leave the clear coat but water sand it a little, to thin it a little, paint will dry better there, and do the new painting FAST, dont let the guitar absorb the humidity smile.gif

this will be fun!!, and a great wiki entry!


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post May 18 2010, 10:40 PM
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QUOTE (Adrian Figallo @ May 18 2010, 05:20 PM) *
from my experience with paint, be sure to leave the first clear coat, and it can be tricky, take the original paint with some light sand paper (it will take time), leave the clear coat but water sand it a little, to thin it a little, paint will dry better there, and do the new painting FAST, dont let the guitar absorb the humidity smile.gif

this will be fun!!, and a great wiki entry!


Just so I understand you correctly, I should keep the original finish on the guitar...just scuff up the clear coat a little? But what if the original color isn't one that you want? For instance, the body I bought is black...I want to do a blue scheme.


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post May 18 2010, 11:34 PM
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Hmm... Getting all the paint off the body can be time consuming. If you have a cheap spare body for experimenting, I would suggest painting over everything one primary coat, and them trying the swirl thing. If succeeds, then you can start from bare wood, apply primary and then swirl paint, and then clear coat... I hope this makes sense, and I hope this is doable tho, not really sure if that is the proper way, just an idea biggrin.gif


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post May 18 2010, 11:45 PM
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QUOTE (Ivan Milenkovic @ May 18 2010, 06:34 PM) *
Hmm... Getting all the paint off the body can be time consuming. If you have a cheap spare body for experimenting, I would suggest painting over everything one primary coat, and them trying the swirl thing. If succeeds, then you can start from bare wood, apply primary and then swirl paint, and then clear coat... I hope this makes sense, and I hope this is doable tho, not really sure if that is the proper way, just an idea biggrin.gif


I think I will definitely scuff the original paint, and re-primer over the top of it. Especially for my first try!


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post May 19 2010, 12:25 AM
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QUOTE (Praetorian @ May 19 2010, 12:45 AM) *
I think I will definitely scuff the original paint, and re-primer over the top of it. Especially for my first try!


Aaah, that makes sense biggrin.gif


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post May 19 2010, 12:32 AM
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QUOTE (Praetorian @ May 19 2010, 12:45 AM) *
I think I will definitely scuff the original paint, and re-primer over the top of it. Especially for my first try!


This is a good idea! Its so cool that you are going to try this and document it...Do you have a video cam or something to shoot the actual process and make a tutorial?? If it works as intended, then I'm sure many will try too since results are really amazing...


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post May 19 2010, 12:54 AM
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QUOTE (Praetorian @ May 18 2010, 04:40 PM) *
Just so I understand you correctly, I should keep the original finish on the guitar...just scuff up the clear coat a little? But what if the original color isn't one that you want? For instance, the body I bought is black...I want to do a blue scheme.


i mean, keep the very first clear coat, don't apply the paint on the raw wood smile.gif


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post May 19 2010, 01:41 AM
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QUOTE (Adrian Figallo @ May 18 2010, 07:54 PM) *
i mean, keep the very first clear coat, don't apply the paint on the raw wood smile.gif


But the clear coat is the final top coat over the original paint right?

QUOTE (Bogdan Radovic @ May 18 2010, 07:32 PM) *
This is a good idea! Its so cool that you are going to try this and document it...Do you have a video cam or something to shoot the actual process and make a tutorial?? If it works as intended, then I'm sure many will try too since results are really amazing...


I do have a video camera, and will film the actual paint dipping. I will take photos for the other steps.


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there is a clear coat before the paint too, well im not sure if it's called clear coat now smile.gif, it's something that goes directly on the wood!


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post May 19 2010, 03:16 AM
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QUOTE (Adrian Figallo @ May 18 2010, 09:41 PM) *
there is a clear coat before the paint too, well im not sure if it's called clear coat now smile.gif, it's something that goes directly on the wood!


Ah...that would be primer! Clear coat is the final spray, that gets sanded and polished to give it that high shine. It protects the paint, but is tough to get perfect.


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primer it is!!, try to not sand that smile.gif


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Cant wait for the results, and hopefully a tutorial!

I think my Rg350 is starting to try hiding itself now, after ive been thinking of using that tutorial if you make it laugh.gif



I wonder if this story about Steve's blood in Jem DNAs is true btw ohmy.gif
"To get the DNA Steve Vai himself donated a couple pints of blood to be swirled and Darren mixed it liberally. (The blood actually had to be smuggled into Japan because of importation laws:)"


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