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May 28 2010, 06:20 PM
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Hello Pedja
Good to be back again after three months. I have learned a lot these three months so I am excited for the next ones. My musical knowledge level is 'beginner' I know how to find out what key a song is in and which pentatonic scale can be used I know that every major has relative minor I know the 5 pentatonic minor boxes I know how to find the 5 pentatonic major boxes I know about superimposing over a major chord I know how a chord is build on the 1-3-5 interval I know the name of the intervals I know harmony: Imaj-IImin IIImin-IVmaj-V7-VImin-VIIdim7b5 My main goals in to be better in building a solo during an improvisation or find ways to be more relax & confident on doing phrasing or solo improvisation .More understanding of theory and cementing scales so solidly I can used them when needed, will be helpful to achieve my main goal. Weak points in building a solo and I want to work on are: A) I don't seem to break out of box 1 or I 'forget'/ don't know how to connect to the other boxes/scales properly B A way to study scales so they are in cement and I don't forget them when I need them C) Use scales after studying them and know what are the strong notes in a scale to play over a song d) Timing always seems the problem with lesson so I like to work on that too E) Technique: work on my left hand technique skills needed during improvisation (e.g arp sweeping, Cheers Robert This post has been edited by playaxeman: May 28 2010, 06:22 PM -------------------- Gear:
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May 31 2010, 04:00 PM
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Hello Pedja,
That is great.  May I suggest something cause I am doing a gig this weekend and I have to solo over this bluesy chord progression: Bm/// | Em F#// | Bm / Em Bm | Bm /// | F# ///| Bm /// | Em ///|Bm /// | F# ///| Bm /// | When I first say this song I started to play Bm pentatonic scale. But looking more closely I figured out G is better The reason: G- Am- Bm-Cmaj-D7-Em-F#-G The progression is based on III-VI-VII harmony so I can use G maj pentatonic scale Em pentatonic scale (= relative scale to G maj) Am pentatonic scale Bm pentatonic scale Am I correct so far? So as exercise lets take this progession an put it into practice Cheers Robert -------------------- Gear:
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May 31 2010, 04:48 PM
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Hi Pedja
This is great start of the MTP. Obviously I was totally wrong about the key scale & progression. I would never ever have thought this was B harmonic minor. I agree that Bm is coming over and over in the progression. So this is a I-IV-V chord progression instead of a I-III-VI-VII chord progression. I suppose the last one isn't very familiar Please try to explain to me 1) How to recognize the key of a song based on it's progression and not by it key sign? 2) Understand the difference between minor and harmonic minor 3) What is the chord harmony for B harmonic minor I-II-III-IV-V-VI-VII :Bm-?-? Em-F#-?=? Cheers Robert -------------------- Gear:
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May 31 2010, 07:13 PM
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QUOTE (Pedja Simovic @ May 31 2010, 06:31 PM)  Hi Robert, Glad you enjoyed those answers  Let me try to answer all your questions. 1) How to recognize the key of a song based on it's progression and not by it key sign? You should look for the starting chord in the chord progression, try to find cadences in the chord progression, figure out the form of the piece and see what type of ending is there harmony wise. 2) Understand the difference between minor and harmonic minor. The difference is in only one note. Natural minor has minor 7th interval from root of the scale while Harmonic minor has major 7th. That one note difference makes a lot of difference. For starters, Natural minor has I min IV min and V min , in B min that would be B min E min F# min. For Harmonic minor we have I min IV min and V (major!). So the essential difference there is that V is different in those two scales and should be used as focus point when analyzing minor chord progressions. 3) What is the chord harmony for B harmonic minor I-II-III-IV-V-VI-VII :Bm-?-? Em-F#-?=? I could tell you this but it would be more useful for you to figure this out by writing down the scale and then working out triads and 4 part harmony in it! Here is Harmonic minor formula, everything in relationship to root : Root, Maj 2nd, Min 3rd, Perfect 4rh, Perfect 5th, Min 6th, Maj 7th, Octave. IF you use whole and half step system, we get this : Root , Whole, Half, Whole, Whole, Half, Whole and Half(very important) and Half! Notice how between bVI scale degree and VII there is minor 3rd interval or whole + half step distance. Let me know if you got more questions! Pedja Hello Pedja, ad 1) To find the cadences I should know the harmony "formula"that is based on scale right? E.g. for maj7 I know it is I-ii-iii-IV-V-vi-vii so for Cmaj7 this will be: Imaj IImin IIImin IVMaj V7 VIimin VIIdim. So if I want to find cadences I must know all the harmony scale formula still very difficult to do without knowing its minor formula ad 2) I understand your explanation. So natural A minor formula is: : A-B-C-D-E-F-G-A. (1,2,b3,4,5,b6,b7) w(hole), h, w, w, h, w, w The A harmonic minor scale is : A-B-C-D-E-F-G#-A : (1,2,b3,4,5,b6,7) w, h, w, w, h, 1,5, h Difference is raised the 7 th note by a half step ad 3) For triads it is Am=A-C-E Bdim= B-D-F Caug= C-E-G# Dm =D-F-A Emaj = E-G#-B Fmaj = F-A-C G#dim= G#-B-D So the formula for triads is: Imin - IIdim- IIIaug - Ivmin-Vmaj-VImaj-VIIdimo so for Bm the progession would be like: Bm-C#dim-Daug- Em-F#-G-A#/Bbdim Should I best use B harmonic min scale or Bm pentatonic scale over this progression? Cheers Robert -------------------- Gear:
Guitars Music Man Luke BFR , Music Man JP LTD 2008, Paul Reed Smith Santana III, Gibson Les Paul, Ovation Adamas, Ovation Ultra Amps Hughes & Kettner Switchblade 50 combo Effects Korg Pandora PX5D, Line 6 Pod XT Live Recording Guitar Rig 5, Logitech QuickCam Pro 9000, Magix MusicMaker2008 Visit My Website |
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May 31 2010, 07:22 PM
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Hi Pedja,
Thanks Great. I am will try to use the scales you just mentioned Cheers Robert -------------------- Gear:
Guitars Music Man Luke BFR , Music Man JP LTD 2008, Paul Reed Smith Santana III, Gibson Les Paul, Ovation Adamas, Ovation Ultra Amps Hughes & Kettner Switchblade 50 combo Effects Korg Pandora PX5D, Line 6 Pod XT Live Recording Guitar Rig 5, Logitech QuickCam Pro 9000, Magix MusicMaker2008 Visit My Website |
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Jun 2 2010, 11:50 AM
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Hello Pedja
4 part harmony for A harmonic minor: A-B-C-D-E-F-G# I Ammaj7=A-C-E –G# (steps 1-b3-5-7) II Bdim7b5= B-D-F-A (steps 1-b3-b5-b7) III Cmaj7#5= C-E-G#-B (steps 1-3-#5-7) IV Dm6 =D-F-A-B (steps 1-b3-5-6 ) V E 7 = E-G#-B-D (steps 1-3-5-b7) VI Fmaj 7= F-A-C-E (steps 1-3-5-7) VII G#dim7= G#-B-D-F (1-b3-b5-6(bb7) (or Ddim7 / Fdim7 /Bdim7) cheers Robert -------------------- Gear:
Guitars Music Man Luke BFR , Music Man JP LTD 2008, Paul Reed Smith Santana III, Gibson Les Paul, Ovation Adamas, Ovation Ultra Amps Hughes & Kettner Switchblade 50 combo Effects Korg Pandora PX5D, Line 6 Pod XT Live Recording Guitar Rig 5, Logitech QuickCam Pro 9000, Magix MusicMaker2008 Visit My Website |
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