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post May 29 2010, 01:42 PM
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Im clean and fast on 5 different shapes doing 3 string sweeps. Im moving them around and sequencing them nicely. Im getting noise on 4 and 5 stringers. What can I do to fix this? I sweep from the wrist on the 3 strings but it seems as if there has to be arm movement on the bigger ones.
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post May 29 2010, 01:47 PM
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3 string sweeps are naturally easier because you can do them out of a wrist movement! You keep your wrist at one spot, muting the strings perfectly but whey you have to expand to 4, 5 and 6 string sweeps you have to move your whole hand up and down.

The motion is diffrent + you have to adjust your hand to keep on muting the strings right. Fixing this can only be done by practicing and trying to mute the strings correctly...


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post May 29 2010, 01:48 PM
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Noise? do you mean unwanted (open) string noise. Muting the strings that you don't play, as you would for the 3-string sweeps or any type of playing would be how I'd stop that, but I'm not sure I know what you refer to.
Are you able to post a video or explain in more detail?

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post May 29 2010, 03:55 PM
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I was going to say pretty much what these guys are saying. ZakkWylde explained it well. You're just used to how you did it before. A change of technique is something your hands have to get used to in muting out that unwanted fret noise. Good luck. I'm still practicing on even little sweeps. smile.gif


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post May 30 2010, 01:22 AM
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QUOTE (ZakkWylde @ May 29 2010, 10:47 PM) *
3 string sweeps are naturally easier because you can do them out of a wrist movement! You keep your wrist at one spot, muting the strings perfectly but whey you have to expand to 4, 5 and 6 string sweeps you have to move your whole hand up and down.

The motion is diffrent + you have to adjust your hand to keep on muting the strings right. Fixing this can only be done by practicing and trying to mute the strings correctly...


you basically confirmed what im thinking. im just going to have to play the metronome game and focus on noise.
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post May 30 2010, 06:15 PM
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Focus on muting and cutting down pauses between the notes on very slow tempos, and don't go up the tempo unless you are super-comfortable with the way you play. This goes for any kind of tempo increase as well.


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post May 30 2010, 07:00 PM
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Gah, I hate working on new techniques. it's so boring to play it over and over and over so slowly.

It's all worth it in the end though, mate. Keep at it. Just focus on muting the strings the way these guys told you.

I'm not the world's best sweeper either so I feel your pain tongue.gif


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Just an additional thing you can keep in mind when sweeping (if you don't already):
Besides using the picking hand to mute unwanted notes below (towards you) the note/string you play and the fretting hand fingers above (towards floor) to mute where possible, it's a good idea when sweeping to "roll" with the notes. The process is that, once you have played a note and start going to the next, don't lift the finger suddenly off and away from the string - rather release the tension and keep the finger at rest on the string until you've progressed onto the next note and the other hand/fingers come to the muting-rescue.
I realise that the above is awkwardly worded, but it's difficult to describe. Easier to show someone than it is to tell someone.
I hope that is makes some sense to you at least and that it can be of some help.
Good luck with those schweeps smile.gif


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post May 31 2010, 09:05 AM
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QUOTE (Artemus @ May 31 2010, 04:19 AM) *
Just an additional thing you can keep in mind when sweeping (if you don't already):
Besides using the picking hand to mute unwanted notes below (towards you) the note/string you play and the fretting hand fingers above (towards floor) to mute where possible, it's a good idea when sweeping to "roll" with the notes. The process is that, once you have played a note and start going to the next, don't lift the finger suddenly off and away from the string - rather release the tension and keep the finger at rest on the string until you've progressed onto the next note and the other hand/fingers come to the muting-rescue.
I realise that the above is awkwardly worded, but it's difficult to describe. Easier to show someone than it is to tell someone.
I hope that is makes some sense to you at least and that it can be of some help.
Good luck with those schweeps smile.gif


Thanks Artemus. Makes sense
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post Jun 3 2010, 12:07 PM
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It can be that you're creating noise with one of your left-hand finger, or it can be empty string, played non-intentionally.
So, you must somehow stop the string from buzzing with your left hand finger.
Maybe it's finger rolling, what kind of arpeggios are you playing?


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post Jun 13 2010, 07:39 PM
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The way I see it is, the technique is the same anywhere, I mean, you have to get to a point where it feels the same anywhere,

try to think about that,

don't change it


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post Jun 14 2010, 05:22 PM
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You need to work on this on a really slow tempo. If you can't play it clean slow you won't be able to play it clean fast. Just concentrate on the muting and try to see where the noise is coming from and how you can mute it.


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