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Pedja Simovic
post Jun 3 2010, 08:39 PM
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Hey Andy,

We are starting with your MTP work. As I promised, for your 1st assignment we will focus on some theory and harmony reading with questions. In the meanwhile I will prepare muting video for you that will be one of the next assignments in June. Please feel free to ask any questions regarding your assignments. All your work should be posted in this thread!
Here is your 1st assignment.

1st assignment :
Theory and harmony reading with extra questions!


- I would like you to read my posts from links provided below.
- Once you read it all, memorize 3 and 4 part harmony in C major scale.
- Learn to apply scale degrees rather then numbers ( I in C major is C, IV in C is F etc).
- Write out in this thread all notes for 3 and 4 part harmony in C major as well as in F and G major scales.

Here are the links:

Major scale harmony and chord functions

Cadences


Deadline for your 1st assignment is 9th of June!

Let me know if you got any extra questions.

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post Jun 4 2010, 03:25 AM
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Hi Pedja!

This first assignment is quite a challenge! I like it smile.gif

I've read both threads you told me. At first I was a little overwhelmed but I read it a couple of times and pieces are starting to fall in to place. I'm starting to see the light, the usefulness of the material you've handed me here, but it seems a big thing to digest.

I have a couple of questions but I will leave them for tomorrow: I want to read this again with a clearer head to see if some sleeping rests ideas on my head and I can resolve them by myself (it's quite late now, I've been all day studying for my exams and I'm taking a look on all this after a looong day).

I won't have practically no access to the internet this weekend since I have a trip planned to my gf's town, but I'll print out everything here to read it on my little free time.

Even though I have previous music knowledge I think I have to review a number of things to fresh them up on my brain, it's been more than 15 years since I received my only theory music lessons. I found this basic theory site , I want to ask you if is good enough, if not please refer me to one!

Even though the lesson is quite absorbing, I love it! I want challenging stuff that fits my level. I'm going to enjoy this lessons.

Thanks,

andy.

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post Jun 4 2010, 12:30 PM
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Hi Andy!

Very glad to hear you are finding assignment challenging. Idea is to always push you to do more but within your realistic goal reach. I will try to keep the pace high if by any chance you are not able to do things that way we can always slow down a bit.

I looked over the site you provided. I have actually seen that site before but I think explanations on it are done using more or less street language smile.gif What I suggest you rather do when you have the free time is my posts on my Theory and Harmony board. You can find my board HERE.

I look forward hearing from you more about the assignments. If you have any doubts or questions feel free to ask man.

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post Jun 10 2010, 02:10 AM
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Here you have Pedja:

3 Part Harmony


C Major Scale

I - C: C E G
II - Dm: D F A
III - Em: E G B
IV - F: F A C
V - G: G B D
VI - Am: A C E
VII - Bdim: B D F

F Major:

I - F: F A C
II - Gmin: G B♭ D
III - Amin: A C E
IV - B♭: B♭ D F
V - C: C E G
VI - Dmin: D F A
VII - Edim: E G B♭


G Major:


I - G: G B D
II - Amin: A C E
III - Bmin: B D F#
IV - C: C E G
V - D: D F# A
VI - Emin: E G B
VII - Fdim: F# A C




Now that I see you online, correct me if i'm wrong please!

On 4 note Chord Harmony this is the structure:

I - maj chord + 7 major
II - min chord + 7th min
III - min chord + 7th min
IV - maj chord + 7 major
V - maj chord + 7th minor
VI - min chord + 7th minor
VII - don't really know


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post Jun 10 2010, 12:41 PM
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QUOTE (piporz @ Jun 10 2010, 03:10 AM) *
Here you have Pedja:

3 Part Harmony


C Major Scale

I - C: C E G
II - Dm: D F A
III - Em: E G B
IV - F: F A C
V - G: G B D
VI - Am: A C E
VII - Bdim: B D F

F Major:

I - F: F A C
II - Gmin: G B♭ D
III - Amin: A C E
IV - B♭: B♭ D F
V - C: C E G
VI - Dmin: D F A
VII - Edim: E G B♭


G Major:


I - G: G B D
II - Amin: A C E
III - Bmin: B D F#
IV - C: C E G
V - D: D F# A
VI - Emin: E G B
VII - Fdim: F# A C




Now that I see you online, correct me if i'm wrong please!

On 4 note Chord Harmony this is the structure:

I - maj chord + 7 major
II - min chord + 7th min
III - min chord + 7th min
IV - maj chord + 7 major
V - maj chord + 7th minor
VI - min chord + 7th minor
VII - don't really know


Hi Andy,

This is great work for the 1st assignment. In the 2nd thread I gave you for reading (Cadences) you will see more about 4 part harmony and their chord types. I like it that you view them as triads + some sort of 7th. Check out this thread HERE and following text and it should be clearer!

4 Part harmony

If you want to get "fancy" with chords and chord progression you can extend it to 4 part chords which are :

I (C major7) II (D minor7) III(E minor7) IV (F major7) V (G dominant7) VI (A minor7) VII (B minor7b5) VIII(C major7)

As you see with 4 part chords harmony looks a bit different than with triads.
Scale degrees I and IV have MAJOR 7 chords. Scale degrees II, III and VI have MINOR 7 chords. Scale degree V has Dominant 7 chord (BLUES CHORD). Scale degree 7 has MINOR7b5 chord.


Hope all that helps!

Pedja


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post Jun 10 2010, 01:25 PM
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4 Part Harmony


C Major Scale


I - Cmaj7: C E G B
II - Dmin7: D F A C
III - Emin7: E G B D
IV - Fmaj7: F A C E
V - G7: G B D F
VI - Amin7: A C E G
VII - Bmin7b5: B D F A



F Major:

I - Fmaj7: F A C E
II - Gmin7: G B♭ D F
III - Amin7: A C E G
IV - B♭maj7: B♭ D F A
V - C7: C E G B♭
VI - Dmin7: D F A C
VII - Emin7b5: E G B♭ D


G Major:


I - Gmaj7: G B D F#
II - Amin7: A C E G
III - Bmin7: B D F# A
IV - Cmaj7: C E G B
V - D7: D F# A C
VI - Emin7: E G B D
VII - Fmin7b5: F# A C E


Here it is Pedja, thanks for your patience!

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Great Andy, now its all done!
Expect 2nd assignment soon smile.gif

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post Jun 12 2010, 03:09 PM
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Andy here is your 2nd assignment!

2nd assignment :
Theory and Harmony essay

This assignment is sort of like an essay or written theory behind your current level of knowledge. This will help me totally understand where you at right now. I will give you couple of topics from which you can choose one (or more if you want to!) and write me as many things as possible about it. The deadline for this assignment is 19th of June. Here are the topics for your 2nd assignment :

1) Tell me everything you know about major scale. Construction, intervals, harmony and everything else you feel I need to know.
2) Tell me everything you know about cadences in major scale and its modes. Use C major scale for explanations.
3) Tell me everything you know about major scale modes?
4) Tell me everything you know about modal harmony?
5) Tell me everything you know about pentatonic scales?
6) Tell me everything you know about chord tone and tension relationship with harmony ?
7) Tell me everything you know about natural/harmonic/melodic minor scale harmony?
8) Tell me everything you know about natural/harmonic/melodic minor modes and harmony?

Remember, pick one (or more if you can do it by deadline) and write me as much as possible on given subject. I want to read and understand how you approach and understand given material.

Let me know if you have any questions!

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post Jun 13 2010, 11:18 PM
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Hello Pedja, just got home from another trip. I like the lesson because it will also help me to clear what I know from what I don't. Let me ask.. should I write everything I know on these things or can I search on it and then try to explain by my own words?

Thank you,

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post Jun 14 2010, 06:27 PM
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QUOTE (piporz @ Jun 14 2010, 12:18 AM) *
Hello Pedja, just got home from another trip. I like the lesson because it will also help me to clear what I know from what I don't. Let me ask.. should I write everything I know on these things or can I search on it and then try to explain by my own words?

Thank you,

Andy


Hello Andy,
Hope you had a good trip man. Glad you like the lesson smile.gif You should with things you already read from my previous post suggestions (in your 1st assignment) answers to these questions in your own words. Answer as much as you can and try to do it in one go. Treat it as theory and harmony test, all done in one sitting. If you feel need to recap your knowledge before doing it, go ahead, but when you start writing no cheating, just write to what your brain tells you in that given moment.

Let me know if you got any more questions.

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post Jun 18 2010, 10:47 PM
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Intensive week I've had, 4 exams in 4 days in a row. Sometime tomorrow I expect to do the assignment!

I wanted to tell you I've bought an audio interface, at quite a good price Konnekt 24D. Not that I'm really worth recording, but have some good friends who are (vocally) and I want to start a modest home studio. I'll will also be able to record the guitar lessons you assign me (if I find out how to make it work, haven't had many time due to my exams).

I still have some exams left, but worse has gone by. I'll be increasing my dedication to your lessons progressively from now on.

Cheers,

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post Jun 19 2010, 12:34 PM
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Great to hear about exams and your dedication Andy. How much was TC device if you don't mind me asking? Looks like a good solution.

I will post your remaining 2 assignments sometime today. Make sure you complete your 2nd assignment soon smile.gif


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post Jun 19 2010, 12:35 PM
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Hi Pedja! It got it for 110 €, new is around 340€

I'm on it now!


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QUOTE (piporz @ Jun 19 2010, 01:35 PM) *
Hi Pedja! It got it for 110 €, new is around 340€

I'm on it now!


Andy that is fantastic deal man. Very happy for you!

Let me know if you got any questions.

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Andy here is remaining 2 assignments for June!


3rd assignment:
REC lesson
Triads in a major scale Part 1


- Check out Triads in a major scale Part 1
HERE
- Use backing track provided to record it.
- Upload video on Youtube and embed it here.
- Submit it for REC grading and in this thread here.

4th assignment :
Superimposing with minor pentatonics + improvising

- Read Superimposing with Minor Pentatonics post HERE
- After reading the whole thing with related link posts, think about choosing one chord and one approach you will use for recording!
- After you have chosen your approach, record a backing track with that chord and on top of that record yourself soloing with 1 or all 3 minor pentatonics corresponding with that mode!
- Post your work in this thread.

Let me give you an example here. Lets say that you have chosen A minor as your chord. Now you also chose A minor to be treated as II (Dorian sounding). In that case you should play minor pentatonics from G major scale ( A , B and E minor pentatonics) over A min chord in the background. 4th assignment asks you only to pick 1 but it also allows you to use all 3 pentatonics if you want to.
Backing track doesn't have to be anything fancy for this purpose. Just guitar playing the chord will do, if you want to add bass and drums to that to make it sound tighter go ahead!

Deadline for both assignments is 30th of June.

Let me know if you got any extra questions Andy!

Pedja


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post Jul 26 2010, 07:38 PM
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Andy I haven't heard from you in a while. How are you doing with this assignment???


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Just checking when can I expect those assignments from you ?


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Hey Andy just wondering about remaining assignments? Will you be able to complete them by 30th of August since MTP program is stopping after that date? Thanks smile.gif


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