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guitargod
post Apr 14 2007, 08:18 AM
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i heard that the formulae to find out the chords for a song is first finding out what scale the song is in , then for the chords in the scale, appply the formulae: major,minor,minor,major,major,minor,diminish,major... but what exactly is diminished? can someone further elaborate on this?


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post Apr 14 2007, 10:40 AM
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QUOTE (guitargod @ Apr 14 2007, 08:18 AM) *
i heard that the formulae to find out the chords for a song is first finding out what scale the song is in , then for the chords in the scale, appply the formulae: major,minor,minor,major,major,minor,diminish,major... but what exactly is diminished? can someone further elaborate on this?


i'll handle this one. anyone feel free to correct me if I am being a moron. happens sometimes.

first of all, that formula would only apply to a major scale.
For example, C Major. That formula would give you for the first 6, CMaj, Dmin, Emin, FMaj, GMaj, Amin.
That makes sense, right? The last one would be Bdim. Just to make sure I am not leading you astray, lets pull up good old wikipedia. It states there....

"Generally, in music, a diminished chord is a chord which has a diminished fifth in it. More specifically, it is a three-note chord (a diminished triad) consisting of a minor third and diminished fifth above the root — if built on C, a diminished chord would have a C, an E♭ and a G♭. The interval between the upper two notes is also a minor third — thus, the chord consists of two minor thirds stacked on top of one another. It resembles a minor triad with a lowered (or diminished) fifth."

Ok according to that definition we would have

B (root)
D (minor 3rd above root)
F (diminished 5th above root).

as the Bdim chord.

The 8th item is where the sequence begins to repeat.

and there you go!
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post Apr 14 2007, 05:29 PM
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QUOTE (fkalich @ Apr 14 2007, 05:40 AM) *
i'll handle this one. anyone feel free to correct me if I am being a moron. happens sometimes.

first of all, that formula would only apply to a major scale.
For example, C Major. That formula would give you for the first 6, CMaj, Dmin, Emin, FMaj, GMaj, Amin.
That makes sense, right? The last one would be Bdim. Just to make sure I am not leading you astray, lets pull up good old wikipedia. It states there....

"Generally, in music, a diminished chord is a chord which has a diminished fifth in it. More specifically, it is a three-note chord (a diminished triad) consisting of a minor third and diminished fifth above the root — if built on C, a diminished chord would have a C, an E♭ and a G♭. The interval between the upper two notes is also a minor third — thus, the chord consists of two minor thirds stacked on top of one another. It resembles a minor triad with a lowered (or diminished) fifth."

Ok according to that definition we would have

B (root)
D (minor 3rd above root)
F (diminished 5th above root).

as the Bdim chord.

The 8th item is where the sequence begins to repeat.

and there you go!


Good explanation smile.gif I'll be writing a lesson on this soon !


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