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Fsgdjv
post Apr 16 2007, 09:03 PM
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I've been thinking about this for quite a while, since my guitar teacher is a "do whatever you want, I don't care" kind of guy I have a fleeling that I have a few bad habits with my playing that I'd like to get rid of. And I don't think I am the only one with some bad habits who doesn't know about them. So what are the most usual bad habits for guitarists without anyone to point out the bad habits? Thanks in advance, and I'm sure I'm not the only one who's been thinking about this smile.gif

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post Apr 18 2007, 06:17 AM
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Bad habits huh..i would like to know the answer to this quesiton 2......i dont think i have any bad habits but just in case laugh.gif


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post Apr 18 2007, 07:02 AM
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QUOTE (Fsgdjv @ Apr 16 2007, 09:03 PM) *
I've been thinking about this for quite a while, since my guitar teacher is a "do whatever you want, I don't care" kind of guy I have a fleeling that I have a few bad habits with my playing that I'd like to get rid of. And I don't think I am the only one with some bad habits who doesn't know about them. So what are the most usual bad habits for guitarists without anyone to point out the bad habits? Thanks in advance, and I'm sure I'm not the only one who's been thinking about this smile.gif


Thumb wrapped around neck. Unless you are actually playing a base note with your thumb. Sure J Page and Hendrix nearly alway did it. They were successful in spite of this bad habit. This is one habit to break early, or you may never do so.

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post Apr 18 2007, 07:13 AM
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I watch too much porn while I'm practicing.

I have no bad habits.
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post Apr 18 2007, 07:26 AM
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Yea im breakign that habit now..thx to pavel laugh.gif and getting used to it...my thumb is slwoing sliding all the way downt he neck to the middle..i jsut a about 2 weeks ago..go it from wrapping around. laugh.gif


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post Apr 18 2007, 05:08 PM
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I'm not confessing to anything yet. I don't play well enough to have bad habits to break. I don't practice as much as I should but I don't think that counts.

I've watched a lot of guitar playing videos over the last few months. The thumb wraparound is very common. The other is anchoring the pinky on the pickguard or pickup...I even see Kris doing this on some of the older GMC videos.


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post Apr 18 2007, 06:05 PM
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Picking from the elbow. Kris and Pavel have both discussed this issue, I believe in their alt picking videos. You CAN generate insane amounts of speed this way, but you sacrifice a HUGE amount of accuracy, you will tire out very quickly, and it can cause injury. Sacrificing tone and accuracy for speed is a no-no, and picking from the elbow is a common culprit. Pick from your wrist, slowly and accurately, and the speed will come naturally.

Here's another one that I'll put here instead of double posting: it's very tempting to play the same thing (pattern, riff, song, exercise, whatever) over and over because you're comfortable with it and good at it, and call it "practicing". I speak from experience - you will NEVER get better this way. If something is difficult for you....it's something you should be working on. That's how you improve.

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post Apr 18 2007, 09:36 PM
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Good stuff laugh.gif


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post Apr 19 2007, 08:13 PM
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I do the thumb wrap around thing and i find it more comfortable to what are the benefits of not doing it?
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post Apr 19 2007, 08:37 PM
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QUOTE (steve25 @ Apr 19 2007, 02:13 PM) *
I do the thumb wrap around thing and i find it more comfortable to what are the benefits of not doing it?


Much greater mobility, reach, and accuracy with your fretting hand, once you're used to 'proper' thumb position.


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post Apr 21 2007, 07:59 PM
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These are things that You have to make a point to do.




1. Not Practicing-This ones key always practice, when i first started i never practiced but still wanted to be a guitar god like kris, gabriel,pavel walliman etc. tongue.gif

2. Using all 4 of your fingers on your left hand when neccessary-A must

3. Practice on a clean setting when learning new riffs, techniques, solos, songs, jams etc etc. And once mastered play with a little disortion . The only reason im saying this is because distorion is like a mistake hider. And you would probably rather pick up your mistakes then hide them . No ? blink.gif

4. Dont pick your calcuses on your fingers ! They are there for a reason !


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post Apr 22 2007, 05:57 AM
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QUOTE (Eat-Sleep-andJam @ Apr 21 2007, 02:59 PM) *
These are things that You have to make a point to do.
1. Not Practicing-This ones key always practice, when i first started i never practiced but still wanted to be a guitar god like kris, gabriel,pavel walliman etc. tongue.gif

2. Using all 4 of your fingers on your left hand when neccessary-A must

3. Practice on a clean setting when learning new riffs, techniques, solos, songs, jams etc etc. And once mastered play with a little disortion . The only reason im saying this is because distorion is like a mistake hider. And you would probably rather pick up your mistakes then hide them . No ? blink.gif

4. Dont pick your calcuses on your fingers ! They are there for a reason !
hope that helped. - John


What about the calluses on my palms?
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post Apr 22 2007, 06:42 AM
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QUOTE (wheeler @ Apr 19 2007, 08:37 PM) *
Much greater mobility, reach, and accuracy with your fretting hand, once you're used to 'proper' thumb position.
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Agree. Wrap you thumb and place your fingers on the fretboard as spread as you can. Now place your thumb properly, and do the same. Yes, most commercially successful electric guitarists wrap the thumb. Hendrix was as bad as you get about that. However good your playing may be, it would be better without this habit. But it is hard to break once you have it. You can get to be a great guitarist, and at that point in order to break it, you have to accept being a sort of crappy guitarist for awhile. So people generally won't break the habit once it is really ingrained.

There can be times where you will want to wrap your thumb, but it should be for a special reason, not your normal manner of playing.

I was going to say "not using the pinkie finger" as another bad habit. But someone else said that. You can do more with your pinkie than most people think. Kris has mentioned that, I believe Pavel also.

I believe those are the two really bad habits to stay away from in your formative years.

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post Apr 22 2007, 06:59 AM
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QUOTE (fkalich @ Apr 22 2007, 06:42 AM) *
Agree. Wrap you thumb and place your fingers on the fretboard as spread as you can. Now place your thumb properly, and do the same. Yes, most commercially successful electric guitarists wrap the thumb. Hendrix was as bad as you get about that. However good your playing may be, it would be better without this habit. Ask any classical guitarist about this. But it is hard to break once you have it. You can get to be a great guitarist, and at that point in order to break it, you have to accept being a sort of crappy guitarist for awhile. So people generally won't break the habit once it is really ingrained.

There can be times where you will want to wrap your thumb, but it should be for a special reason, not your normal manner of playing.

I was going to say "not using the pinkie finger" as another bad habit. But someone else said that. You can do more with your pinkie than most people think. Kris has mentioned that, I believe Pavel also.

I believe those are the two really bad habits to stay away from in your formative years.
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post Apr 22 2007, 07:30 AM
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I tend to double pick the bottom note of three string sweeps...which results in a slightly weirder sound, and the G string ringing open. I recommend you not do this, because, it's really annoying.
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