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Daniel Realpe
post Oct 25 2010, 10:01 PM
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I'm going to say it's 80%!!

Then comes the guitar and amp, and all the rest of stuff.



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post Oct 25 2010, 10:13 PM
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Holy crap - that's cool! So Vai helped that along with Ibanez's changes? coooooool cool.gif


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post Oct 25 2010, 11:07 PM
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Holy crap - that's cool! So Vai helped that along with Ibanez's changes? coooooool cool.gif

yeah, I know, exceptional


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post Oct 26 2010, 12:05 AM
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A perfect example of this is SRV, there are many videos of him playing different types of Strats with different pickups and amps, but he always has the SRV tone.

Another good example is Dimebag Darrell - with Pantera he played Randall solid state amps exclusively, and with Damageplan he used Krank tube amps. Two very different setups, but still the same balls-to-the-wall Dime sound.

So yes Daniel, you're absolutely right, tone is mostly in the hands.


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post Oct 26 2010, 01:07 AM
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So he says he came up with the idea of a more 'sexy' look... I wonder how influential he really was for that development of that alongside Ibanez. Along with all the other things that make Ibanez guitars instantly attractive.
I mean damn... he has inspired me again.
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post Oct 26 2010, 01:32 AM
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That's awesome, he was truly an innovator in those days! smile.gif


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post Oct 26 2010, 02:39 AM
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And to think I was around in 87 when Ibanez came out with the first Vai model. My pal Chuck bought one. I got the JS model. Both cool guitars and it's really cool to know that they're still around.

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post Oct 26 2010, 03:33 PM
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Great video. It's always good listening to a Guitar Hero like Vai smile.gif


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post Oct 27 2010, 07:34 PM
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yes, he's really genuine and doesn't hold back.


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post Oct 27 2010, 10:44 PM
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Daniel is right on with this. With many great players, and many players in general, much of their tone comes from the player, not the gear. The way you hold the pick, the type of pick you use, the guage of string, the way you strike each string, etc. There are so many things that go in to creating "tone". And much more than you would think comes directly from the artist playing the instrument.

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post Oct 27 2010, 11:37 PM
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This video is great too. It shows many of the advancements that are considered almost standard today in Ibanez guitars that Vai helped to make mainstream. I have a 7 string Ibanez with the recessed floating whammy and 24 frets and the huge cutaway for higher fret work and I love it. It's my favorite guitar. It just plays like a dream. I like all my guitars, but this one is special. If you don't have a 7 string Ibanez with these features, go play one and see if you can stand not to buy it.

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post Oct 28 2010, 04:54 AM
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Sweet collection there, Todd. cool.gif


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post Oct 28 2010, 07:38 AM
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wow reading the comments I just felt, I have used 4-5 setups and I sound just like me, poor tone and trying to get more 'great' gears... too bad.. I need some volume, tone controls on my fingers.


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post Oct 28 2010, 08:14 AM
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Marcus Lavendell is another great example of controlling the tone with fingers. It's not mostly in the gear, though the gear affects, too. smile.gif
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post Oct 28 2010, 09:40 AM
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Also fun to see this in real life action. Mattias IA Eklundh has a very unique tone. I played on his exact gear, exact settings, exact pick, exact room and everything was exactly the same. And my TONE (not playing style, but that also) was lighyears away from his. smile.gif


...Also, Marty Friedman can get a wahwah-like tone out of just his fingers.

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post Oct 29 2010, 01:21 PM
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QUOTE (Daniel Realpe @ Oct 25 2010, 11:01 PM) *
I'm going to say it's 80%!!

Then comes the guitar and amp, and all the rest of stuff.



True !

I wouldn't say 80%, 70% or 50%, but I know one thing for sure: All the greatguitarists have their own sound no matter what amp they play, you will recognise them . . .
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post Oct 31 2010, 05:48 PM
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Very insightful video! I didn't know he was such a inventor smile.gif I was also wondering why the guitar had a "handle" in design and who's idea that was. Actually know when I think about it and hear his reasoning - it makes perfect sense ! smile.gif


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post Oct 31 2010, 10:47 PM
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100%. Sort of like a woman. Makeup can embellish her beauty, but sooner or later you see her without her makeup, and that is what she really looks like.
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post Nov 1 2010, 02:20 AM
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awesome!!! this vid made my day smile.gif thanks for sharing man.

@ Todd: I'm going to buy one of those in early future, I simply love them!


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post Nov 1 2010, 12:26 PM
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Very cool topic!

I would say depending on the guitarist it's between 80-99% in the fingers. I agree with Sollesnes Marty example - through his bending, picking technique and choice of notes he does his unmistakable thing on a completely clean setup without effects.


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