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Todd Simpson
post Nov 11 2010, 02:14 AM
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QUOTE (Mudbone @ Nov 10 2010, 01:01 AM) *
Dude, that was freakin' wicked \m/


Thanks smile.gif I worked up a Guitar Rig 4 Patch called Psycho Lead 3 that used an octaver in addition to a wad of gain and just improvised over the entire track. It was quite fun smile.gif I'm posting the guitar rig file here in case you have a copy. Great software BTW. Would have taken me forever to get that tone using my standard rig, I actually tried it that way first and wasn't happy with it so I switched to software. It's amazing how quickly you can swap out components and cabs/mics/outboard gear when you can do it with a mouse.

Attached File  Psycho_Lead3.ksd.zip ( 5.76K ) Number of downloads: 52





QUOTE (Kristofer Dahl @ Nov 10 2010, 11:42 AM) *
This was in deed vey cool Todd - we should be able to use this. I'll digest this some more but I might ask you to send me your dry signal so I can re amp... watch this space!

Very cool to hear you take over the actual tune.



Glad you dug it smile.gif Hope it can be worked in somehow here and there. I was just playing by ear and winging it so I"m certain the whole track won't match up note wise, I was really just going to a sort of counterpoint/call and response to the main rythm. Glad it worked out and ended up sounding cool smile.gif Here is the guitar track with just distortion and octaver (custom guitar rig patch that I uploaded just in case) and again entirely clean as recorded with zero fx.

Attached File  Guitars_Only___New_Collab_SuperDraft.mp3 ( 2.31MB ) Number of downloads: 87


Attached File  Clean_NO_FX__New_Collab_SuperDraft.mp3 ( 2.31MB ) Number of downloads: 88


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post Nov 11 2010, 06:20 PM
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QUOTE (Kristofer Dahl @ Nov 8 2010, 06:09 PM) *
Update: I have redone the lead - I am still not 100% sure about the details but I feel that something is shaping up at least:
[attachment=22230:song_col...erdraft4.mp3]
Adrian here is the file without drums:
[attachment=22231:song_col..._nodrums.mp3]

Any feedback/thoughts you might have is very welcome!


woops i'm a couple of days late biggrin.gif, but now i got, will try something out smile.gif

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So here is it guys, i hope you like it!
The sound is a little lower now, i like to take it up in the master hope is ok!

Also kris, i got an idea to connect to the end of the draft, but i'm not sure if i should make it because it will kill the metal vibe into some rock n roll trippy thing, should i go for it?
Attached File  drums_draft.mp3 ( 2.34MB ) Number of downloads: 103



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post Nov 14 2010, 01:04 AM
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Hey Todd, heres the MIDI file you asked for.
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yes Todd, that was amazing!


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post Nov 14 2010, 09:12 AM
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QUOTE (Mudbone @ Nov 13 2010, 08:04 PM) *
Hey Todd, heres the MIDI file you asked for.


I took the MIDI file in to Garageband and put Guitar Rig on it. It doesn't sound all the way like a guitar but it does get the idea across.

MUDBONE: Very cool composition, I put it with some random drums just to highlight it. I"ll also put it with the existing track, is it written to match up? Glad to see you in the video chat today smile.gif
Attached File  MudboneWithRandomDrums.mp3 ( 4.46MB ) Number of downloads: 150




QUOTE (thefireball @ Nov 13 2010, 09:56 PM) *
yes Todd, that was amazing!


FIREBALL: Thanks smile.gif Glad you liked it! Give it a whirl! Glad you made to the video chat today as well smile.gif This is a really fun piece to work with. Kudos to Kris for another killer Collab in the making smile.gif


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post Nov 14 2010, 11:33 AM
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QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Nov 14 2010, 03:12 AM) *
I took the MIDI file in to Garageband and put Guitar Rig on it. It doesn't sound all the way like a guitar but it does get the idea across.

MUDBONE: Very cool composition, I put it with some random drums just to highlight it. I"ll also put it with the existing track, is it written to match up? Glad to see you in the video chat today smile.gif
Attached File  MudboneWithRandomDrums.mp3 ( 4.46MB ) Number of downloads: 150






FIREBALL: Thanks smile.gif Glad you liked it! Give it a whirl! Glad you made to the video chat today as well smile.gif This is a really fun piece to work with. Kudos to Kris for another killer Collab in the making smile.gif


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Thanks Todd smile.gif I really like what you did with the drums. I actually wrote this song as a way to learn the E minor scale and legato at the same time, as I didn't like the scale patterns and boxes I found in books. I can play the main riff, its the legato part I'm having real trouble with biggrin.gif


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post Nov 14 2010, 05:44 PM
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It's a very cool composition smile.gif I hope it can be integrated in to this collab somehow. If not, maybe make it it's own Collaboration?

FREE GUITAR RIG VERSION:

Here is a link to the GUITAR RIG Free Version. It's the same software I was talking about in the chat and what I used to make the recording here for the collab. The free version has fewer options, but it's a great way to get started in software amp modeling. You can add bits like the RAMSTEIN patches as well for an upgrade fee.

http://www.native-instruments.com/#/en/pro...r-rig-4-player/

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QUOTE (Mudbone @ Nov 14 2010, 06:33 AM) *
Thanks Todd smile.gif I really like what you did with the drums. I actually wrote this song as a way to learn the E minor scale and legato at the same time, as I didn't like the scale patterns and boxes I found in books. I can play the main riff, its the legato part I'm having real trouble with biggrin.gif



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post Nov 14 2010, 09:51 PM
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Phew - an update: I have been pretty worried about this one. I like the arrangement but still couldn't find a natural melody that would work as a red thread - this could mean a dead end for the tune. However today I finally found something which might work over the second riff. Watch this space!


QUOTE (Adrian Figallo @ Nov 11 2010, 06:20 PM) *
EDIT:
So here is it guys, i hope you like it!
The sound is a little lower now, i like to take it up in the master hope is ok!

Also kris, i got an idea to connect to the end of the draft, but i'm not sure if i should make it because it will kill the metal vibe into some rock n roll trippy thing, should i go for it?
Attached File  drums_draft.mp3 ( 2.34MB ) Number of downloads: 103


Sorry I missed the edit (I have been busy eating worms ph34r.gif ).

This is great - immediately gave me new ideas for the drum track, thanks!

I definitely think you should let us hear your idea - especially now that things look a little brighter for the tune. My initial idea for this tune was to create a landscape where we go from hard to soft, metal to rock etc. - it would be amazing if we managed to achieve that (it's an extremely difficult thing to do without heading into "art music" territory).


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post Nov 17 2010, 09:50 PM
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Status update - I have progressed enough with the melodies for the two riffs we've got.

My plan is now to try a break inspired by Marc Maiden sad ballad gp5 and then have a bridge inspired by thefireballs "sneaky metal". After that it will hopefully feel natural to return to the into riff again.

Right now it feels pretty good - let's see how it works out. I'll let you know as soon as i have something worth listening to!


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post Nov 18 2010, 05:02 AM
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QUOTE (Kristofer Dahl @ Nov 17 2010, 03:50 PM) *
Status update - I have progressed enough with the melodies for the two riffs we've got.

My plan is now to try a break inspired by Marc Maiden sad ballad gp5 and then have a bridge inspired by thefireballs "sneaky metal". After that it will hopefully feel natural to return to the into riff again.

Right now it feels pretty good - let's see how it works out. I'll let you know as soon as i have something worth listening to!


Sounds cool! A tapestry of RIFFING! Can't wait smile.gif

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post Nov 24 2010, 01:49 AM
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Any updates on the tune? Can't wait to hear how it turns out smile.gif I've been mentioning this collab to my chat students. They are excited about it as well.

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Was this ever finished? I didn't remember, but I could have missed something. tongue.gif


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