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post Jan 29 2011, 03:45 AM
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i recently watched the song remains the same and came across this little jem:

the part im specifically talking about starts at 5:30, when they go into the "if you're going to san Fransisco" cover
the vid gets cut off right in the middle but whats next is the famous jimmy page bow solo

my favorite parts have to be the transistion at 5:30 in the first vid and at 2:13 in the second video, i HAVEE to know what he's doing

i just find the transition and the chords in the solo so fascinating, everything about it, if anyone can give me just any bits of info they can pull from watching the vid i would really appreciate it, i want to be about to emulate the same crow stopping feel and spacey vibe. so what im looking for is kind of a breakdown of the scale or mode hes using and how hes using it (like which chords hes using and how) but anything would help me out

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post Jan 29 2011, 04:24 PM
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It does sound like a violin! Kind of like apocalyptica with the distortion

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post Jan 30 2011, 08:05 AM
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It's a strange (and very cool cool.gif ) coincidence that you mention that part at 5:30 in the first vid.
Believe it or not I wrote a song based on that very part way back when I was in school. That song is attached below.
The intro went something like this...

---2--------4--------5--------7---------5------4-----2------------------0------------2---------------------------------2---0---2-- ...

If you listen to the attachment, you can hear that it really sounds quite different from what Jimmy was doing there, but I think
that the same kind of open stringed arpeggio (in this case Em) was going on in his playing. Of course then Jimmy goes off into another
world, but the very first part of this outtake from "Going to San Francisco" on Song Remains the same is what inspired the riff above. I thought it was an interesting coincedence that you mentioned it to. I think Jimmy's playing in that section was out of this world, especially his tone on this live album.

I presented the intro to one of my band mates and he came up with the lyrics which evolved a bit over time until the song ended up as recorded below. Give it a listen. There are some similarities but it's funny, even when you're inspired by someone elses playing, it usually will end up sounding somewhat unique and original by the time you work out the parts as you would want to play them. But why I ended up recording this with two acoustics panned left and right beats me. I always played it electric live.


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