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post Feb 11 2011, 02:55 AM
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Hello!

I have never considered this before, but I started considering it today. I was riffing through my Vox VT 30 with Jackson and I was thinking, "POD Farm is cool, but sometimes I might wanna record the sound of this amp. I would need a mic. But I don't know what mic to get or what equipment I would need to record it. Where would I start?"

I thought I would present this to GMC community. Perhaps you can ask questions and give me advice that would help give me somewhat of a clear direction. I have no knowledge of this. I have always used the camera's mic or recorded directly line-in.

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post Feb 11 2011, 03:43 AM
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I don't know much on this topic, I'm sure there are more experienced people here, but I'll start off.

You need an interface between the mic and the PC/laptop, such as http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_us/FastTrack.html.

As for mics, the Shure SM57 seems to be a popular choice: http://www.shure.com/americas/products/mic...ment-microphone.

I'd opt for this myself, but it's more expensive than using the Pod GX and you'd need to have a well set-up environment to get a great capture with the mic.


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post Feb 11 2011, 03:49 AM
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SM57
There are probably a lot of good mic's out there, but the SM57 has been a mic of choice for pro's for this application for a long time. The good part about it is that it's also relatively inexpensive (I think still around a hundred bucks). So it doesn't break the bank to get a good mic for guitar that's widely used in the industry.

I think the SM57 and other dynamic mics lend themselves to guitar amp applications because volume level and the frequency range of the amp/guitar is such that the more sensitive condenser mics aren't really a requirement. Dynamic mics can withstand the high sound pressure levels, and the proximity effect from the cardioid pickup pattern is sometimes a desirable attribute. Vocalists like the SM57 for the same reasons, especially in live situations.





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post Feb 11 2011, 04:42 AM
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Yeah SM57 is the classic for electric guitar amplifiers


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post Feb 11 2011, 04:42 AM
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I see the M-Audio would render why POD GX useless, I guess, since it has a guitar jack. I think I would still keep it, though. happy.gif But it looks nice! Got place for the mic and headphones....and I see that I would be able to step up from Audacity. biggrin.gif Yay, for that!

Yeah, I recognize the 57 from POD Farm. smile.gif I like POD Farm a lot. It gives me more of a variety of sounds; I just sometimes want zero latency and better quality sounds from my physical effects and amps. This is something to think about. I'm not a rich guy - I'm a college kid with a part time job - so I'm really only thinking in the future here. smile.gif I first gotta upgrade my pickups in my 2 cheap guitars to be a little more equated with my Jackson. tongue.gif

Thanks! Anybody else have advice or suggestions? What type of environment would I need to set up? wink.gif


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post Feb 11 2011, 04:59 AM
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You might want to check out the Sennheiser E609, from what I understand it is specifically designed to record guitar amps. If not the SM57 seems like a great choice. Mind you I'm am by means an expert on mics or live recording, I'm just going by what I've read and what I've seen on youtube. You should check out a channel on youtube called FastRedPonyCar, that dude records some of the best demos on youtube. Of course his setup is a bit much but it can give you some ideas.


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post Feb 11 2011, 06:42 AM
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Some great replies so far smile.gif I actually created a thread just for this. I review several audio interfaces I've owned and currently own and speakers, as well as info on Microphones, Speakers/Monitors, etc. This is actually a HUGE question but this info will give you a good start. Check it out at.....

https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_fo...showtopic=35615

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post Feb 11 2011, 03:07 PM
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QUOTE (thefireball @ Feb 11 2011, 03:42 AM) *
Thanks! Anybody else have advice or suggestions? What type of environment would I need to set up? wink.gif

A quick search gave me this link if you want to start getting an idea: http://www.recording-microphone.com/record...r-amplifier.php.


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post Feb 12 2011, 04:07 AM
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QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Feb 10 2011, 11:42 PM) *
Some great replies so far smile.gif I actually created a thread just for this. I review several audio interfaces I've owned and currently own and speakers, as well as info on Microphones, Speakers/Monitors, etc. This is actually a HUGE question but this info will give you a good start. Check it out at.....

https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_fo...showtopic=35615

Todd


Wow - a lot of info! smile.gif Useful! I'll be checking it out sometime.


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post Feb 12 2011, 11:46 AM
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It might help inform your decision. But it is a good bit of content to go through. There is a lot to learn for someone like you just starting out with recording. It can seem daunting. It gets easier as you go though. Jump in!

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post Feb 12 2011, 02:14 PM
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A good article from Sound on Sound is here

Oh and I tend to agree with Alan Parsons. By all means use a dynamic mic but try to team it with a good condensor.

Also use a good mic preamp.

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post Feb 12 2011, 10:54 PM
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I use the Sennheiser e609 when playing live to mic my guitar. It does an incredible job. The SM57's are the industry standard, but the e609 is easily just as good (and some people consider it to be better).

I've also been considering using an AKG D320B. They are older and hard to find, but according to Gregor Hilden's youtube videos, it sounds amazing for guitar!



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post Feb 27 2011, 09:58 PM
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What type of interface you have at the moment? This will help me determine how big budget you need for upgrade.


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post Feb 28 2011, 04:38 AM
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QUOTE (Ivan Milenkovic @ Feb 27 2011, 02:58 PM) *
What type of interface you have at the moment? This will help me determine how big budget you need for upgrade.


I have a POD GX Studio.


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post Mar 2 2011, 08:22 PM
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If you want to mic a cab, you need to get audio interface with mic preamp, and mic. Shure SM57 is around 100$ new, and entry level audio interface around that much as well. If you are interested I can give you some interface suggestions. If you want to keep your tones from GX, you could try UX1 instead? UX1 has mic preamp next to guitar input, so you could use it for micing.

Also, don't forget that you will probably want to invest in acoustic treatment of the room you are recording your cabinet in order to cut down the reverberation to a reasonable level.

Let me know if you need additional help for this.


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