Alternate Picking Vs. Legato
 Mar 1 2011, 04:57 PM Post #1 Learning Rock Star Group: MVC Posts: 1.089 Joined: 16-October 10 From: Bursa,Turkey Member No.: 11.399 Hey all.Lately i realized that when it comes to play very fast licks with alternate picking only(for ex:some parts of the canon rock)i am playing those licks with both hammer-on & pull-offs and some alternate picking.No matter what i do i can't change that.i am losing my control over my right hand if i try to play with alternate picking only.Are there anyone with that same problem here?And what are your suggestions for me to overcome this situation? This post has been edited by quadrium: Mar 1 2011, 05:01 PM -------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Check my Soundcloud page from HERE(Please Subscribe to) My Youtube Channel fromHERE
 Mar 1 2011, 06:06 PM Post #2 GMC:er Group: Members Posts: 1.081 Joined: 27-September 09 From: London, UK Member No.: 7.668 When you're losing control, you need to slow the tempo down, and practice at just before the speed you lose control at.Try to figure out the problem at this speed. Design a short exercise, that you can loop, based on your problem. Isolating it, and slowly pushing the tempo up should help you. Here's an example! Assume you're having trouble with playing this lick at a certain speed.CODEE---------------------------------------13--------B--12-----------------------12--15--17-----17--15--G------15--14--12--14--15-------------------------D-------------------------------------------------A-------------------------------------------------E-------------------------------------------------You could be having any of these problems when playing it fast: (Starting on a downstroke)* Picking the first 2 notes means your pick is travelling in the opposite direction (towards the high E), to which it needs to, for the next note (towards the low E, the 15th fret). You could be moving your pick too far in the direction of the high E.* You could be inexperienced in starting with an upstroke (15-14-12-14-15).* The inside picking concerning the 15th fret on the G and 12th fret of the B, could be catching you out.* The bigger stretch on the B string (12-15-17) may be something you're not used to.* The outside picking concerning the 17th fret on the B, followed by the 13th fret on the high E, could be the problem.Or it could be not being used to changing strings, basic alternate picking ability (assuming you're alternate picking this), finger strength in your fretting hand, etc.--When you find your weak-point, e.g. inexperienced in starting with upstrokes, make a short exercise (that you can loop, preferably):CODE----12--------------------------------------15--14--12--14--15--------As you can see, when starting with a downstroke, you have to do an upstroke on the next note (when alternate picking). Practice this regularly, at a speed at which you can play it comfortably, and perfectly, then increase the tempo. -------------------- Ibanez 2550ELTD EC-1000 VBRoland Cube 30W
 Mar 1 2011, 10:03 PM Post #3 Learning Rock Star Group: MVC Posts: 1.089 Joined: 16-October 10 From: Bursa,Turkey Member No.: 11.399 Thanks man!This will definitely help. -------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Check my Soundcloud page from HERE(Please Subscribe to) My Youtube Channel fromHERE
 Mar 2 2011, 02:04 AM Post #4 GMC:er Group: GMC Instructor Posts: 16.915 Joined: 23-December 09 From: Atlanta, Georgia, USA Member No.: 8.794 Some great advice from Dark Dude There are wads of practice workouts on my lesson notes page as well if you need some more. http://bit.ly/lessonnotesWe do a lot of this type of work on our Sat Vid Chat, stop by if you can Todd -------------------- NEW QUICK LICKS IN MY FORUM EVERY SATURDAY NIGHT!!!http://bit.ly/quicklickstoddsforumMY INSTRUCTOR FORUMMY SHRED JOURNEY (BOOTCAMP) LESSON NOTES/TABSMY INSTRUCTOR PROFILE @ GMC ME @ YOUTUBE.com ME @ Instagram.com ME @ TWITTER
 Mar 2 2011, 02:32 AM Post #5 Learning Rock Star Group: MVC Posts: 1.089 Joined: 16-October 10 From: Bursa,Turkey Member No.: 11.399 QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Mar 2 2011, 01:04 AM) Some great advice from Dark Dude There are wads of practice workouts on my lesson notes page as well if you need some more. http://bit.ly/lessonnotesWe do a lot of this type of work on our Sat Vid Chat, stop by if you can ToddThanks Todd.I will check them. I am trying to join your Video chats but lately we have some internet speed problems at my dorm.As soon as they fix it i will join them all -------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Check my Soundcloud page from HERE(Please Subscribe to) My Youtube Channel fromHERE
 Mar 4 2011, 12:56 PM Post #6 Instructor Group: GMC Instructor Posts: 25.396 Joined: 20-November 07 From: Belgrade, Serbia Member No.: 3.341 If you tend to use legato licks in faster passages, it means your picking hand needs development. Your fretting hand can fret, but picking hand cannot manage to pick all those notes. Try Todd's AP lessons, they are excellent, and just practice more alternate picking runs. This will help a lot. Be sure to practice it slowly. In time, this problem will become smaller and smaller. -------------------- - Ivan's Video Chat Lesson Notes HERE- Check out my GMC Profile and Lessons- (Please subscribe to my) YouTube Official Channel- Let's be connected through ! Facebook! :)
 Mar 11 2011, 03:10 AM Post #7 Bass & Beginner Instructor Group: GMC Instructor Posts: 15.613 Joined: 30-November 07 From: Belgrade, Serbia Member No.: 3.410 It seems that you are playing "too fast" and that your picking had can't keep up so you're using legato to get it executed. Just slow down a bit and practice regular straight alternate picking exercises against a metronome. It will do wonders for your technique. -------------------- For GMC support please email support (at) guitarmasterclass.netCheck out my lessons and my instructor board.Check out my beginner guitar lessons course! ; Take a bass course now!My solo and band songs : Keep Going On, Night Vibe, Kad Te Vidim, Susret, Plava Silueta
 Mar 12 2011, 02:30 AM Post #8 Learning Apprentice Player Group: Members Posts: 342 Joined: 15-December 10 From: Newark, Ohio Member No.: 11.817 I just slow down. I use alternate picking almost all the time. I am just starting to use legato. I have more trouble not picking. Then again I am still not very fast. Always thought if I focus on accuracy and tone that the speed will come.
 Mar 12 2011, 02:53 PM Post #9 Learning Rock Star Group: MVC Posts: 1.089 Joined: 16-October 10 From: Bursa,Turkey Member No.: 11.399 Thanks for the advices guys.I started to improve myself already Practicing Todd's AP lessons now This post has been edited by quadrium: Mar 12 2011, 02:53 PM -------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Check my Soundcloud page from HERE(Please Subscribe to) My Youtube Channel fromHERE
 Mar 12 2011, 08:41 PM Post #10 Instructor Group: GMC Instructor Posts: 25.396 Joined: 20-November 07 From: Belgrade, Serbia Member No.: 3.341 Glad to see there is progress! Keep us informed of your progress! -------------------- - Ivan's Video Chat Lesson Notes HERE- Check out my GMC Profile and Lessons- (Please subscribe to my) YouTube Official Channel- Let's be connected through ! Facebook! :)
 Mar 14 2011, 02:27 AM Post #11 Learning Rock Star Group: MVC Posts: 1.089 Joined: 16-October 10 From: Bursa,Turkey Member No.: 11.399 QUOTE (Ivan Milenkovic @ Mar 12 2011, 07:41 PM) Glad to see there is progress! Keep us informed of your progress! You bet i will Ivan -------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Check my Soundcloud page from HERE(Please Subscribe to) My Youtube Channel fromHERE

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