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Azzaboi
post Apr 22 2011, 09:31 PM
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Pod XT vs X3 vs HD

I heard the HD model is an entire remake and can be almost compared against the Axe FX!
I've seen the youtube videos, sounds great with djent styled playing. However, what's it like with Hi Gain Metal Shredding?

I'm wondering for high gain metal:
Pod XT - with Metal Model Pack (Hi Gain Tones)
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The Pod XT well sounds digital, but with tweaking and the model packs installed makes a huge difference. Surprisingly, I heard the HD doesn't hit the mark with metal playing compared to its predecessors (with model packs installed)? I doubt this, but anyone compared them. Also, is there a big difference between the HD300 vs HD400 vs HD500 series?

Anyone used and abused the pod series, please give feedback what you like/hate about them, cheers!

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post Apr 22 2011, 10:01 PM
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The only Line 6 product I ever seriously considered was the HD series. I was going to buy the HD500, but the distributor in Norway failed epicly, and the shop I called to order spent months before telling me they didnt have it.
So I put that on hold.

HD300 is for those who just want the basic amp simulator.
The HD500 is the full package, and the only one I considered. I wouldnt consider any of the two others.
The HD400 is a go-between between the two. You can't run as many effects simutaniously etc.

As far as I have understood, most people only consider the 300 and the 500. 300 is you're after something cheap and basic, 500 if you want everything the way it should be smile.gif If you want to know specific differences between the three, just got the to Line 6 website. smile.gif
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post Apr 22 2011, 10:33 PM
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Thanks for you reply.

Does the HD series has that tube amp tone/feel?

I quite liked playing blues on a BlackStar tube amp, total difference feeling. However, I didn't like the effects range and the idea of having to deal with the values (warm up / cool down / blowing up), so decided against moving to tube. I'm curious to know if this HD would be more suited for my taste.

I play lead and rhythm, metal / rock / blues / shred / etc. Mostly hi gain tones, so i need a good range of effects.

Also is it best to effect loop or preamp? I'm using a Les Paul Gibson - Standard DC guitar with Laney Hardcore Max - HCM65R amp.

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post Apr 23 2011, 02:30 AM
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I have an X3 Live as well as an HD500.
To my ears, the HD absolutely blows the X3 away when it comes to dynamics and cleans. I'm not a high gain expert, but I notice about the HD that if even with high gain models like the Fireball 100, the Dual Rectifier, and the Ubershal, there is something of a more dynamic feel to them. More punchy and responsive to your touch.

That said, when you record the X3, you can get some very good sounds. It just doesn't have that dynamic feel when playing. Big difference to my ears. The X3 also supports Pod Farm so when recording you have much more flexibility with the X3 for re-amping. Also, the USB interface on the X3 gives you more options. The X3 has many more amp models. To me though, one great model beats 50 ok models hands down.

That's just my opinion, I still think the X3 is awesome. I haven't had the opportunity to test out an Axe-Fx. I'd really like to see what it's about. People who own both the HD and the Fx speak highly of them both. And for sure you have strong advocates for one over the other in both camps. The HD is way cheaper than the FX but if the FX blows it away, maybe it would be worth having.

It's funny that we often give more emphasis on the guitar when it comes to tone. But I often think the amp could even be a more important factor in defining one's tone. Certainly equal in importance. And I for one have spent way more money on guitars over the years than I have on amps.

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post Apr 23 2011, 03:52 AM
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Hey! The only thing I don't like about POD Farm is that it's not a real amp and effects. And there's a split second of latency.
I have a GX. I just expanded with the Metal Shop today.

But it works for me right now. smile.gif Haven't tried the new stuff.


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post Apr 23 2011, 11:56 AM
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I've been blown away by the Axe Fx, although many people say the POD HD is great. I would get the Axe Fx but the price difference is big.


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I would also get AxeFX as soon as I had the chance, and that chance may not come soon, considering the price. sad.gif

However, I think if you get HD model, you will get something with value that you can experiment with. It will suit your needs for couple of years.


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post Apr 23 2011, 03:36 PM
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Yeah, I heard they reduced the number of amps on the Pod HD, but high quality over quantity any day!

The AxeFx sounds awesome, but double or more the price heh!


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post Apr 23 2011, 03:53 PM
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QUOTE (Azzaboi @ Apr 23 2011, 04:36 PM) *
Yeah, I heard they reduced the number of amps on the Pod HD.


Thats true, they did. I also heard the clean amps are really great, but the distortion sucks (still better than previous Line 6 though) smile.gif

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I should look around for a local store that sells the Axe-Fx. I'd like to try one out. With the HD500, I am truly impressed with its sound quality but have not been able to compare directly to the Axe-Fx. If anyone has a chance to compare them side by side, you should do so and let us know what you think! cool.gif



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post Apr 23 2011, 05:56 PM
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Line 6 was never really great with hi-gain presets, nor any of the digital modelers for that matter. The thing where they started to come near the tube amp feel is somewhere in the crunch region. Anything more modern and aggressive and it starts to loose definition and clarity, specially in the mix.


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post Apr 23 2011, 07:31 PM
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@Ivan, you are pretty much correct, something I've noticed, the Pod sounds rather digital and not hi gain enough for metal.
Though I noticed a huge improvement with hi gain, after purchasing the Metal Shop Model: http://line6.com/modelPacks/metal.html

It's really bs that it's already been built into the hardware and just make you purchase a rather expensive code to unlock it's juice, but still was worth it. I'm wondering how that compares to a stardard HD series, or if they would also have same/better quality or it's own series of model pack (yet again).

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I went to the Rockshop and tried out the Pod HD500, it sounds pretty sweet. Hated most of the standard settings thou, a lot of them where just effects (sound cool but not of real use). I use to love effect when I was a beginner, but now I just want a solid hi gain tone I can jam on, no decent metal tones to start out with (you got to download or make them). It looks to be a real serious tweakers heaven, I've afraid of spenting more time setting the thing up then playing, lol. However, once you got a good tone, jamming for hours with it.

The store offered me $100 off the price... $899NZ still freaken expensive compared to purchasing it in the states for around the $600NZ mark on special I found (almost the same price as the HD300 here, lol), only issue they wont import it into NZ, that sucks, I would of grab it and even pay the extra shipped it.

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Possibly you can ask someone to import it for you there?

Also, there is one postal forwarding company that I used on several occasions: myus.com

The packages run with DHL, so it's very secure shipping. It's a bit pricy but well worth it.


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Ivan that was just what I needed!

(one day ago) - they had a special on in the states $429US ($270 off the original) = $533NZ on amazon, even with the import costs + GST + shipping, it still would of been a great deal. Deal gone up to $499US = $620NZ now (thinking about it since shipping and extra costs, etc). I guess it would also have no warranty valid here.


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