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Kristofer Dahl
post May 2 2011, 03:35 PM
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It's been a while since we had one of these - and I think now would be a good time!

* What would you want to see improved in the forum / community?

* What would you want to see improved in our lessons? (or perhaps removed for that matter, sometimes less is more)
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Feedback from K1R:

I think that phrasing lessons should contain some theoretical information like "You should use these intervals to make that kind of feeling" or "The 4th step of the scale sounds especially good here". For example Lian's notes from Diabolic Black Metal Lesson:

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How to compose this? How to make a song sound Evil? There are many options, some easy, some require a lot of study and practice. Here are some basic concepts you can try: combine minor chords from a different scale. I combined C#m followed by Gm. I developed a melody during one chord (C#m) and when I fall to the other (Gm), I force the melody to a note of the scale of the new chord.


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post May 2 2011, 03:33 PM
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Yeah, I agree with the theory tip, except! I think all the instructors should, whenever there might be something more to say, give tips concerning the lesson. Some instructors do this already - what I mean isn't that they should write a book concerning the lesson. Just some small, simple things - like what Adrian Figallo (for example) tells in his spoken explanations. Most important things are on the video, after all.

EDIT: oh man, Kris made it before me. Could someone move this post to the suggestion thread?

edit2: Done wink.gif /Kris

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post May 2 2011, 03:50 PM
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I think both Kristian and K1R are touching upon a very important topic here.

You can make a huge amount of progress just by learning new material. However the real power comes from understanding the underlying theory, which is actually the musical engine of creation (boy am I going to get free massage from Andrew after saying this).

So in other words we do not only need to analyse what scales/arpeggios/notes are being played over a specific chord- we should also explain why the decision to play these notes was made ("In order to sound like SRV I used a major third over this specific chord"). And maybe also what options we have depending on the direction we want the music to take.

Edit - also saying a few words about the chord progression is something I personally find really useful when learning new stuff.


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post May 2 2011, 03:56 PM
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QUOTE (Kristofer Dahl @ May 2 2011, 02:50 PM) *
I think both Kristian and K1R are touching upon a very important topic here.

You can make a huge amount of progress just by learning new material. However the real power comes from understanding the underlying theory, which is actually the musical engine of creation (boy am I going to get free massage from Andrew after saying this).

So in other words we do not only need to analyse what scales/arpeggios/notes are being played over a specific chord- we should also explain why the decision to play these notes was made ("To sound like SRV I used a major third here"). And maybe also what options we have depending on the direction we want the music to take.

Edit - also saying a few words about the chord progression is something I personally find really useful when learning new stuff.


Hahaha biggrin.gif EXCELLENT Kris! I totally agree - I was lucky enough to be able to steal the craftsmanship from some of Romania's greatest guitarists, and i was always happy to gain insight through little observations like the ones Kristian and K1R are talking about. They matter more than theory sometimes - because the details create musical personality smile.gif


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post May 2 2011, 04:01 PM
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QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ May 2 2011, 04:56 PM) *
Hahaha biggrin.gif EXCELLENT Kris! I totally agree - I was lucky enough to be able to steal the craftsmanship from some of Romania's greatest guitarists, and i was always happy to gain insight through little observations like the ones Kristian and K1R are talking about. They matter more than theory sometimes - because the details create musical personality smile.gif


Exactly. Theory is just one of all the things.

I personally find that what helps me creating music is just my general approach which I have slowly developed over the years - it hasn't got to do very much with theory at all. Especially since what I write is really straightforward stuff (from a theory perspective). So that's what I like to share with students.

As an example I speak about how I go about writing songs at the end of this video (starting 4:40):


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post May 2 2011, 04:12 PM
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QUOTE (Kristofer Dahl @ May 2 2011, 03:50 PM) *
(boy am I going to get free massage from Andrew after saying this).


You mean he's been charging you ALL this time ?? ohmy.gif


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post May 2 2011, 04:15 PM
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QUOTE (Ben Higgins @ May 2 2011, 05:12 PM) *
You mean he's been charging you ALL this time ?? ohmy.gif


Actually no massage at all so far sad.gif He needs longer arms or I need a bigger back ( I am working on the later with lots of pizzas)


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post May 2 2011, 04:18 PM
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QUOTE (Kristofer Dahl @ May 2 2011, 04:15 PM) *
Actually no massage at all so far sad.gif He needs longer arms or I need a bigger back ( I am working on the later with lots of pizzas)


There's a certain other food that I would suggest. You know what that is by now don't you ? ph34r.gif


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post May 2 2011, 04:20 PM
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QUOTE (Ben Higgins @ May 2 2011, 05:18 PM) *
There's a certain other food that I would suggest. You know what that is by now don't you ? ph34r.gif


Yeah but that's dessert!!

...oh wait. Now I see I'll just make it my main dish, should be even quicker than pizza (+ It'll give me super guitar powers)


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post May 2 2011, 04:41 PM
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Now come on, if anything it should be the other way around - Swedes are famous for their massages after all!

However, in recognition of your services to theory, I am prepared to help you with your back enlargement British style:


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QUOTE (Andrew Cockburn @ May 2 2011, 05:41 PM) *
However, in recognition of your services to theory, I am prepared to help you with your back enlargement British style:


I am still hungry and not fat enough to reach the other side of the ocean - your image didn't help Andrew tongue.gif


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QUOTE (Kristofer Dahl @ May 2 2011, 11:48 AM) *
I am still hungry and not fat enough to reach the other side of the ocean - your image didn't help Andrew tongue.gif


That's no excuse! Try this place:

http://tastyfishnchips.blogspot.com/2010/0...ckholm-swe.html

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I certainly find these latest suggestions more than entertaining, to say the least... laugh.gif
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post May 2 2011, 05:03 PM
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QUOTE (Andrew Cockburn @ May 2 2011, 05:54 PM) *


This is taking too long Andrew - I'll just go here instead:
http://www.sthlmphysique.se/


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post May 2 2011, 05:29 PM
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Great thread indeed, I like it! smile.gif

I specially like some of the things K1R and Kristian were talking about! smile.gif


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post May 2 2011, 05:31 PM
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QUOTE (Ivan Milenkovic @ May 2 2011, 06:29 PM) *
Great thread indeed, I like it! smile.gif

I specially like some of the things K1R and Kristian were talking about! smile.gif


Hehe yes we strayed a little from the topic there ph34r.gif

What would one eat in Serbia/Balkan to get really fat by the way?!


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I suggest each student gets a free meal with each lesson he has fully learned wink.gif
If only we had food in Germany to get really fat...but we've only got healthy stuff like Bratwurst...Schnitzel...Black Forest Cherry Pie (I hope it's called that in english...). To bad... wink.gif
A new theme month would be great, please let it be Maiden (since it's gonna be my next concert I'm gonna see smile.gif )


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QUOTE (Gitarrero @ May 2 2011, 12:59 PM) *
Black Forest Cherry Pie (I hope it's called that in english...). To bad... wink.gif


We call it "Black Forest Gateaux" - Mmmm!


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QUOTE (Andrew Cockburn @ May 2 2011, 07:02 PM) *
We call it "Black Forest Gateaux" - Mmmm!


You americans call it gateaux? Now I'm confused! wink.gif


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QUOTE (Gitarrero @ May 2 2011, 01:03 PM) *
You americans call it gateaux? Now I'm confused! wink.gif


Well technically I am English, but yeah, it is kind of wierd when I think of it wink.gif


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