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Kristofer Dahl
post May 13 2011, 09:14 AM
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Here is one that could stir up some feelings!

Supposedly this thing keeps your guitar in tune regardless of its intonation - AND it takes bends/vibrato into consideration.

Personally I'd love to try one as I haven't ever tested a guitar with perfect intonation (true temperament necks excepted).

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post May 13 2011, 10:18 AM
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Well it kinda defeats the purpose of practicing, but I guess it could be beneficial for recording or in a live situation.


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post May 13 2011, 10:35 AM
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Wow! I'd love to give that a whirl! I've never played a guitar I thought had "perfect" intonation, so this would be first. It sounds like it's an Antares Auto Tune Plugin built just for Guitar. A producer pal of mine showed me the Antares Auto Tune for vocal plugin and it's pretty impressive when not used an annoying way. This sounds like a plugin or suite of plugins that would adjust for intonation problems. Could be very handy. Would make a great stomp box too!


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Here is one that could stir up some feelings!

Supposedly this thing keeps your guitar in tune regardless of its intonation - AND it takes bends/vibrato into consideration.

Personally I'd love to try one as I haven't ever tested a guitar with perfect intonation (true temperament necks excepted).

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Eh? It just corrects intonation right? How does it defeat practice? But yeah, it would help in the studio/live, any place intonation is critical.

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Well it kinda defeats the purpose of practicing, but I guess it could be beneficial for recording or in a live situation.


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post May 13 2011, 10:36 AM
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QUOTE (Mudbone @ May 13 2011, 11:18 AM) *
Well it kinda defeats the purpose of practicing, but I guess it could be beneficial for recording or in a live situation.


Why do you think it defeats purpose of practicing? I think it's a shame guitarists have never been able to play instruments that are in tune.

We have always had to deal with guitar necks that don't work unless you have an awesome vibrato and avoid certain chord shapes. Sure that obviously works well for some - but I'd much rather spend my time on the music instead of finding work arounds for a bad instrument.

Of course we have no idea if this new product actually work as promised - but I am not against the idea of it.


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post May 13 2011, 10:57 AM
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QUOTE (Kristofer Dahl @ May 13 2011, 05:36 AM) *
Why do you think it defeats purpose of practicing? I think it's a shame guitarists have never been able to play instruments that are in tune.

We have always had to deal with guitar necks that don't work unless you have an awesome vibrato and avoid certain chord shapes. Sure that obviously works well for some - but I'd much rather spend my time on the music instead of finding work arounds for a bad instrument.

Of course we have no idea if this new product actually work as promised - but I am not against the idea of it.


I believe it defeats the purpose of practicing because I'm under the assumption that it corrects intonation all over the neck, not just on certain troublesome spots. When you're practicing you're supposed to be training your ears to play something as correctly as possible, but this product will hide many mistakes. I've noticed that many of my intonation problems are because I'm simply not playing something correctly, not because of a fault with the instrument. If this product masks these mistakes while I'm practicing I'll never figure it out what I'm doing wrong.

I'm not against this product at all, in fact I think its great for live playing or recording. But for practicing I don't think I should be using any auto-correcting equipment other than my ears and my misfiring mind biggrin.gif

I must add though, when a guitars intonation goes out of whack it can get very frustrating mad.gif biggrin.gif


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post May 13 2011, 01:18 PM
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I see what you mean - but I still think that when practicing you should get the best possible tools available and have that as your basis to create music.

Thinking about it - I am actually a little upset that guitars still don't intonate properly (well once again except for true temperament necks, which aren't always an option depending on what features you want from your neck). I think we guitarists deserve instruments that tune well!!


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post May 13 2011, 10:42 PM
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Oh no, all those bends and vibrato exercises, done for nothing laugh.gif


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post May 13 2011, 11:49 PM
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This sounds great!! It will be really good tool for recording at the studio because there are many guitars which are hard to calibrate or tune and sometimes the recordings take much more time for this reason.

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Oh no, all those bends and vibrato exercises, done for nothing laugh.gif



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post May 13 2011, 11:56 PM
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This is very interesting news. Auto tune did bring a revolution in vocals recording. Though I'm not sure if it's a good or bad thing but it did enable bad singers to sound great smile.gif

With application on guitar I'm expecting it finally enable perfect intonation and also studios will have a greater control over the recorded tracks. I guess with the use of software it could be possible to correct small playing mistakes if made in the recording process? I don't think it a bad thing too. It will speed up the recording process. I'm also hoping that some guitarists will take advantage of it to create something unique, crazy and new smile.gif

I like technology and I think this has nothing to do with actual guitar practice/skill as it won't make things easier just more flexible smile.gif


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Sound great! Definitely want to try that!


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post May 14 2011, 01:35 AM
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Wouldn't it be great if noone had to practice, and everyone could focus on music instead of technique? of course showmanship is a part of music, and music doesn't always have to be about emotions etc, but... imagine how much beautiful music there would be if all you had to focus on was creativity, and then the music played itself?
Sadly Autotune isn't that, but perhaps a step in that direction - which is why so many feel threatened by autotune on vocals etc smile.gif

After all, this is just an effect like delay for example. I'm sure there will be cool sounding things coming from an autotuned guitar biggrin.gif

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post May 14 2011, 03:19 AM
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I heard about this. How cool is that?! smile.gif I'd love to have this type of thing.


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post May 14 2011, 07:53 AM
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Intriguing... I am not opposed to this software, however, in my view it's the minute mistakes or imperfections that make something "human" and therefore more interesting than something that is actually "perfect". Hendrix was known for hitting wrong notes but then recovering his errors with wild bends that were not always in perfect pitch..I personally like this.

I can't think of the name of the book right now but the story revolves around human's infatuation with having beautiful children.. so measures were taken such that nearly everyone born had flawless looks. This also led to everyone looking similar and then boring - to the extent that people who had imperfections were then perceived as the most beautiful people on earth.

Maybe the same can happen with music. Everything is processed with autotune and kept in perfect pitch and then all this just gets boring to the average Joe. Then someone like me picks up my guitar..intonation a bit out, frets buzz, bends occasionally out of tune, and they just can't get enough of it.. laugh.gif

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post May 14 2011, 08:39 AM
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