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May 30 2011, 08:36 PM
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SOUND FILE HAS BEEN UPDATED AGAIN ON JULY 8!! I used Ozone. FINAL MIX
I classify this as my first REAL metal song. It's the first song that's ever come close to a studio version with good drums. I recently bought EZdrummer and so this track is kind of a first test with the program. I realize the track has a few tiny imperfections and things could be improved, but I will get better over time. I guess you'd say it's part of an EP. Please realize I'm very new to this. Right now I concentrating on getting my ideas recorded for real now. Hope you enjoy! There will be a music video for this soon. Stay tuned! Thanks to all who have helped me on this song thus far.  You seriously rock!  Programs: POD Farm 2 EZdrummer Reaper Audacity iZotope Ozone Equipment: Jackson SLSMG 6-string (EMGs 81/85) - rhythms Ibanez RG 350 DX 6-string (Infinities) - solo POD Studio GX GHS 7-string Boomers, LT 10-60 for rhythm guitar Ernie Ball Hybrid Slinky 9-46 for solo guitar This post has been edited by thefireball: Jul 8 2011, 07:20 PM |
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May 30 2011, 08:53 PM
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Hey mate! That's a very cool riff, and nice arrangment, lots of things going on. I can hear that you really tried hard to make this one!
 You still need to work a bit more on your mixing. It's a bit boomy, and lacks definition. Here are some tips on how to improve it: - Turn off ambience channel in EZD completely, and raise kick and snare just a bit, lower down hihat - Cut guitars bellow 100Hz - Insert this plugin on drum track, and play with knobs try not to overdo with compression!
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May 30 2011, 09:13 PM
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QUOTE (Ivan Milenkovic @ May 30 2011, 02:53 PM)  Hey mate! That's a very cool riff, and nice arrangment, lots of things going on. I can hear that you really tried hard to make this one! You still need to work a bit more on your mixing. It's a bit boomy, and lacks definition. Here are some tips on how to improve it: - Turn off ambience channel in EZD completely, and raise kick and snare just a bit, lower down hihat - Cut guitars bellow 100Hz - Insert this plugin on drum track, and play with knobs try not to overdo with compression! Thanks for this feedback. Questions please. *Where is the ambience channel? (I've got EZD in Reaper) *When cutting below 100Hz, is that the Low Pass filter or High pass filter? The guitars are recorded in Audacity. *I didn't see a way to download the plug-in. 
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May 31 2011, 02:59 PM
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I would like to hear more kick drum.
 Put a little bit volume for that 2nd guitar or 3rd ? And U could use maybe more symbals (I would )Is the "Humanizing" button on ? It's between "open mixer" and "open grooves". But seriously here's a good tutorial for Ezdrums (in the first page). I.E. making those drums to sound in "multichannel"...etc Also check out Youtube !! But yeah great song !
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May 31 2011, 10:19 PM
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Hey man,
Great work here! I've added this one to GMC Radio Let me know if you do a remixing. I'll change it Dogukan, --------------------  -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- SPOTIFY PAGE YOUTUBE CHANNEL |
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Jun 2 2011, 09:18 AM
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Just a few suggestions for getting the drums to sit ok in the mix (I´m assuming that mic placement, spill, etc are not an issue as it´s software drum emulation):
1/ levels of the individual parts of the kit, followed by the group so that it fits the mix. 2/ Surgical eq of other instruments around the kick and the snare main frequencies/harmonics to clear some space and ensure that the instruments and the drums aren´t fighting each other. 3/ Compressors are your friend here - a lot of the punch/snap etc can be helped by getting the compression right. That means experimenting with both the type and make of compressor you use and the settings. With the settings you really need to look at the attack and release times and get them right. 4/ Also you might have to experiment a bit with different compression techniques ranging from gating, through serial and parallel compression to upwards expansion and decompression. 5/ Sometimes some careful use of something like an Exciter (like the one Ivan´s linked) can help on a snare but be careful as they often add noticeable distortion and artifacts. -------------------- Get your music professionally mastered by anl AES registered Mastering Engineer. Contact me for Audio Mastering Services and Advice and visit our website www.miromastering.com
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Jun 2 2011, 08:28 PM
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QUOTE (thefireball @ May 30 2011, 10:13 PM) Thanks for this feedback. Questions please. *Where is the ambience channel? (I've got EZD in Reaper) *When cutting below 100Hz, is that the Low Pass filter or High pass filter? The guitars are recorded in Audacity. *I didn't see a way to download the plug-in. Sorry for not clearing up! 1. Ambience channel: Open EZD window, you'll see small mixer in the lower left corner, click on it, and the channel to the left that says "ROOM" on it - that's the one. 2. That is High Pass filter, because it let's "hi frequencies pass" 3. Sorry - http://hotfile.com/dl/7697627/d110ea3/disc....vst.v2.11.html PS Don't overdo with ThrillMe, it's can get pretty sucky
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Jun 10 2011, 12:39 AM
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(This picture is in Reaper. I'm using this as a help for asking Ivan.)
This post has been edited by thefireball: Jun 12 2011, 03:36 AM
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Jun 24 2011, 02:03 PM
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Hi there !
Have you updated your song yet ? Looking forward to hearing it...
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Jun 25 2011, 06:00 AM
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File is officially updated. * bump *
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Jun 25 2011, 03:06 PM
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QUOTE (thefireball @ Jun 25 2011, 05:00 AM) File is officially updated. * bump * Awesome! I updated this one at GMC Radio
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Jun 25 2011, 10:12 PM
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Awesome demo ! Congratz !
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Jun 26 2011, 06:17 PM
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Nice! Now your talking
Everything is sounding nice. The drums sound very spiff. Getting good drum sound can be a challenge with EZ drummer but it sounds like you've tweaked them nicely. EQ, Compression? And your pinch harmonics are killer as well. All around well done! I liked it so much in fact, that I pulled it down and ran it through a bit of "Mastering Sauce" just for fun. It brings out the guitars a bit without changing the mix to much. Give it a listen and compare it to the original and let me know what you think. 
MasteringSauce.mp3 ( 5.42MB )
Number of downloads: 230 |
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Jun 26 2011, 06:46 PM
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QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Jun 26 2011, 12:17 PM) Nice! Now your talking Everything is sounding nice. The drums sound very spiff. Getting good drum sound can be a challenge with EZ drummer but it sounds like you've tweaked them nicely. EQ, Compression? And your pinch harmonics are killer as well. All around well done! I liked it so much in fact, that I pulled it down and ran it through a bit of "Mastering Sauce" just for fun. It brings out the guitars a bit without changing the mix to much. Give it a listen and compare it to the original and let me know what you think.
MasteringSauce.mp3 ( 5.42MB )
Number of downloads: 230That's cool! I really love it! I wonder where you got this? I was thinking of redoing the solo to make it tighter, so this way I could do it myself on other songs as well. Or is it only for Mac? Thank you for this Todd! It sounds much more professional.
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