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post Jun 19 2011, 09:35 PM
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Hey guys! I've recorded my first song. I didn't play it really good and it contains a lot of mistakes biggrin.gif But I need to know what you think about the composition and mixing. Looking forward to see your constructive critics and advices smile.gif
Attached File  delusion_demo.mp3 ( 9.84MB ) Number of downloads: 185

I will rerecord it when I have your tips, I think it will be in a week smile.gif Thank you.


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post Jun 19 2011, 10:01 PM
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Love the rain effect, the lead is too high relative to what starts the song, I'd level that out a bit. It sounds like you're struggling a bit with the riffs around 1:44, I'd slow them down and try to nail it faster than you play it in the recording. Careful with the notes you're bending to, some of the bends are out (3:30 area), and take note of that when adding vibrato in places (e.g. 3:53).

Interesting composition, I love the contrast at the start. Don't know much about mixing, so I'll leave that to everybody else.

Keep us updated on the finished track, sounding good!


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post Jun 19 2011, 10:46 PM
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For the first recorded song and mix, this is great! Of course, there are mistakes, but it is quite normal! When you learn to paying attention to important things, everything will be even better. Most importantly, do not mix never right away after the shooting. For mixing you need a 'rested', fresh ear! Sleep, rest for a couple hours, and then go to do mix! On that way you have a much clearer picture wink.gif


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post Jun 20 2011, 12:41 PM
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QUOTE (dark dude @ Jun 20 2011, 12:01 AM) *
Love the rain effect, the lead is too high relative to what starts the song, I'd level that out a bit. It sounds like you're struggling a bit with the riffs around 1:44, I'd slow them down and try to nail it faster than you play it in the recording. Careful with the notes you're bending to, some of the bends are out (3:30 area), and take note of that when adding vibrato in places (e.g. 3:53).

Interesting composition, I love the contrast at the start. Don't know much about mixing, so I'll leave that to everybody else.

Keep us updated on the finished track, sounding good!

Thank You. Do you mean the lead before thunder or the lead after harmonized guitars? Yeah, the riffs around 1:44 are a bit difficult, but I'm working on it and bending smile.gif

QUOTE (Sinisa Cekic @ Jun 20 2011, 12:46 AM) *
For the first recorded song and mix, this is great! Of course, there are mistakes, but it is quite normal! When you learn to paying attention to important things, everything will be even better. Most importantly, do not mix never right away after the shooting. For mixing you need a 'rested', fresh ear! Sleep, rest for a couple hours, and then go to do mix! On that way you have a much clearer picture wink.gif

Thank You. I will keep that in mind when I record it again smile.gif


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post Jun 20 2011, 12:48 PM
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QUOTE (K1R @ Jun 20 2011, 12:41 PM) *
Thank You. Do you mean the lead before thunder or the lead after harmonized guitars? Yeah, the riffs around 1:44 are a bit difficult, but I'm working on it and bending smile.gif

Sorry, I should've been more specific! The lead before the thunder smile.gif


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post Jun 20 2011, 09:53 PM
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No more comments? smile.gif


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post Jun 20 2011, 11:05 PM
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QUOTE (K1R @ Jun 20 2011, 03:53 PM) *
No more comments? smile.gif


It takes for a while to get a chance to read / listen / comment, I'm sure there will be more smile.gif I"ll give this a listen when I get back to my studio monitors and let you know what I think as well smile.gif

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post Jun 20 2011, 11:06 PM
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Congrats on your first song demo man! I like the composition. I like the rain effect, the acoustic combined with the elctric guitars and the piano. The main thing to improve about it is your playing, but as you clarify that you have to record again without mistakes let's talk about audio...
The acoustic guitar would sound better is you add a bit of treble or presence to the Eq, it sounds a bit darken. I can hear the bass.. did you record a bass guitar or synth? If you did it, you have to add boos frequencies at 1.5 Khz to make it sound clearer. I would improve the snare sample of the drums, maybe something more natural... it sounds too digital. The piano also needs some boos at its high frequencies.
However you did an awesome job considering that this is your first song man! Well done!! biggrin.gif


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post Jun 21 2011, 04:16 AM
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Congrats on your first Track! The first of many I hope smile.gif Well done on writing/arranging/performing/mixing/mastering and sharing your work. Creating a song takes talent and skill, sharing it with your peers take courage. A good player needs both. Well done smile.gif

Apart from what's already been said about the mix and such, I would say go back and listen to the lead/rythm parts again and see if you can hear where they drift a bit from beat. It's fairly subtle and something you can easily fix. It seems that your picking synchronization (right hand left hand, and picking within the framework of the timing of piece) still needs a bit of polish. It's nothing you can't work out though.

Pull up your mix with only the drum track. Then turn up the bass. Make sure they are tight/synced all the way through, then add just one guitar part and do the same. If you can isolate where it's drifting a bit, it will really help just in general in terms of your playing and really anyones playing. It's a great way to isolate and perfect.

Also, maybe put up a mix without the leads and do it as a collaboration to see what other folks would do over it. Doing so can give you some great ideas on what types of licks might work and how they might sound.


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post Jun 21 2011, 07:07 AM
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Good idea with the rain, sound interesting from the start.
I really like it after the thunder, the beginning should probably be a bit quieter, slowly increasing and build up to that!

Overall sounds awesome, some nice playing!


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post Jun 21 2011, 12:00 PM
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I think it's great first project, and you did a very good job. Well done, and congratulations smile.gif

You mentioned recording the guitars again, and I strongly advise that you do so. Remember that one of the biggest studio lies is "we'll fix it in the mix". You need to be able to make proper color and play everything with precise timing, tone and dynamics in order to get a healthy take. The healthier the track, the less you need to shape it, and more natural sounding the mix will be.

OK, once you do that, couple of little things to fix, before you put out second version:

- lower down the hihat, it's killing
- lower down the lead guitar just a tiny bit


PS I'm not sure if that is rain I'm hearing in the beginning, but it sounds a bit like noise. Try to insert some other rain loop that has better quality (just a thought).

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