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mattacuk
post May 9 2007, 09:38 PM
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Hey guys,
So ive had my Roland 60 Watt Cube for about 9 months now but i dont feel im getting the most from it.
My ring is as follows;

Roland 60 Watt Cube <------ Boss CS-3 Compressor <-------Boss DDS-3 Digital Delay <------- Boss MD2 Mega Distortion.

The AMP is quite a peice of kit, with COSM amoungst many other features.

http://www.roland.com/products/en/_support...&prd=CUBE60

JC CLEAN
Models the Roland JC-120.
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BLACK PANEL
Models the Fender Twin Reverb.
BRIT COMBO
Models the Vox AC-30TB.
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Models the Fender Tweed Bassman 4x10 Combo.
CLASSIC STACK
Models the Marshall JMP 1987.
METAL STACK
Models the Peavey EVH5150.
R-FIER STACK
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A BOSS original amp model that allows for a wide range of tonal variation from clean sounds to deep distortion, all controlled by the player's picking dynamics.

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99% of the time i have it on JC Clean with my Distortion Pedal and Delay (minimal) on. But I dont really know how toget the best of this setup. Gabi gave me the settings he uses for shred, but i cannot get a similair tone! Roland say i should only use my Pedals on JC clean, is this correct?

I really like playing with distortion but i get too much feedback when i use them with any of the Lead models.
What settings would you guys suggest? smile.gif


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post May 10 2007, 02:34 AM
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I like mine alot.

I find that picking any of of the distortion models (the r-fier is my favorite) plus kicking the gain to 3/4 gives me the sound I like.

I usually set the Bass and midrange to 2 o'clock and the treble higher.

I have the Presence 1/2 way up.

I have not had mine long, but I like the distortion models so much I sold all 5 of my digitech pedals.

I usually add a little delay to give it a little extra.

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post May 11 2007, 04:05 AM
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QUOTE (mattacuk @ May 9 2007, 04:38 PM) *
Roland say i should only use my Pedals on JC clean, is this correct?


There are no rules, its just down to what sound you like - distortion + overdrive will give a really heavy sound but it may be just what you are olooking for!


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post May 11 2007, 06:54 AM
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I've got the Cube 30x and I love it. I haven't really come up with any awesome settings yet but you can't go wrong with bass at midnight, mid and treble set to 3 o'clock, a little bit of delay, a tiny bit of chorus, and the model set to a Marshall Stack.

Lemme know if you come up with any mind blowing settings
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post May 11 2007, 10:26 AM
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QUOTE (mattacuk @ May 9 2007, 10:38 PM) *
My ring is as follows;

Roland 60 Watt Cube <------ Boss CS-3 Compressor <-------Boss DDS-3 Digital Delay <------- Boss MD2 Mega Distortion.

You could also try to put the compressor before the distortion. I bet that gives another sound then it's up to you to fingure out which sounds better.
For all cases I'd keep the delay last in the chain. (Figure if you have a loop better put it in there. Time-effects goes in the loop and if you don't have one the closest to "loop" is to put the last in the chain)

That's how I'd do it on a valve amp with a loop channel
guitar->comp->dist->amp
loop: delay

I'm not very experienced with solid state amps though.

QUOTE (mattacuk @ May 9 2007, 10:38 PM) *
99% of the time i have it on JC Clean with my Distortion Pedal and Delay (minimal) on. But I dont really know how toget the best of this setup. Gabi gave me the settings he uses for shred, but i cannot get a similair tone! Roland say i should only use my Pedals on JC clean, is this correct?

I really like playing with distortion but i get too much feedback when i use them with any of the Lead models.
What settings would you guys suggest? smile.gif

I don't know the Roland Cube but I guess you have channels with distortion already. In my opinion there's no need to distort an already distorten signal. But... there are no rules. If it sounds good just do it!
Delay is very suitable for any channel but I'd run the distortion pedal only on the clean channel.

Perhaps Roland said what they said because the amp has built in effects already, does it? In that case if you want to run your delay you have to shut the built in effect off. Or else it will sound like crap.
So my guess, judging from Rolands answer is that the clean channel has NO effects turned on, giving you theh opportunity to use any effects of your own choice without colliding with the built in ones.
All other channels have delay, dist, chorus, flanger or any other common effects and if you put a delay on that you'd most likely ruin the sound. And I'm sure Roland want their customers to be happy with the sound.
Right?

Don't know if I mentioned it already but by putting the compressor first I wouldn't be surprised at all if the feedback is gone.
In my opinion that compressor sould be first to enhance the characteristics of the guitar itself. If it's too far away in the chain (which is anything further away from first position wink.gif )it got nothing from the guitar itself to work with.


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post May 11 2007, 11:00 AM
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QUOTE (MickeM @ May 11 2007, 10:26 AM) *
You could also try to put the compressor before the distortion. I bet that gives another sound then it's up to you to fingure out which sounds better.
For all cases I'd keep the delay last in the chain. (Figure if you have a loop better put it in there. Time-effects goes in the loop and if you don't have one the closest to "loop" is to put the last in the chain)

That's how I'd do it on a valve amp with a loop channel
guitar->comp->dist->amp
loop: delay

I'm not very experienced with solid state amps though.
I don't know the Roland Cube but I guess you have channels with distortion already. In my opinion there's no need to distort an already distorten signal. But... there are no rules. If it sounds good just do it!
Delay is very suitable for any channel but I'd run the distortion pedal only on the clean channel.

Perhaps Roland said what they said because the amp has built in effects already, does it? In that case if you want to run your delay you have to shut the built in effect off. Or else it will sound like crap.
So my guess, judging from Rolands answer is that the clean channel has NO effects turned on, giving you theh opportunity to use any effects of your own choice without colliding with the built in ones.
All other channels have delay, dist, chorus, flanger or any other common effects and if you put a delay on that you'd most likely ruin the sound. And I'm sure Roland want their customers to be happy with the sound.
Right?

Don't know if I mentioned it already but by putting the compressor first I wouldn't be surprised at all if the feedback is gone.
In my opinion that compressor sould be first to enhance the characteristics of the guitar itself. If it's too far away in the chain (which is anything further away from first position wink.gif )it got nothing from the guitar itself to work with.



Thanks for your great replys guys. The Amp does have a bucket load of built in effects but they can be turned on/off via seperate knobs. I dont use any of these, so they are always off regardless of the channel.

The reason for the post is that I am just not geting a sound I like from JC clean with my BOSS pedals on ! It just sounds "fuzzy" and "tinny" for want of a better world. I would like to record some of the lessons I have been practicing but I just cannot find a nice tone!

PS, I have tried the compressor at the front of the loop and it actually sounds better with it off! It is a very weak pedal ! smile.gif


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post May 11 2007, 03:30 PM
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I actually have the same amp. Unfortunately I have only been playing for about 3 weeks so I doubt I could be of any help to you. sad.gif

I am curious however, do you get a much better distortion effect from your pedal than you do from the amp?
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post May 11 2007, 06:53 PM
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QUOTE (DeFrank @ May 11 2007, 03:30 PM) *
I actually have the same amp. Unfortunately I have only been playing for about 3 weeks so I doubt I could be of any help to you. sad.gif

I am curious however, do you get a much better distortion effect from your pedal than you do from the amp?


You will typically get better distortion if you run your amp clean and use a qualtiy pedal like Boss or Digitech. I am not yet a very good player (yet), but the sounds and tones from my amp with effect pedals is great. Can't ask for more.

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