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Ben Higgins View Member Profile	Jul 22 2011, 10:05 AM
Jul 22 2011, 10:05 AM	Instructor Posts: 13.792 Joined: 11-March 10 From: England	Hey Guys So, now that the High Risk collab is finished, let's talk a little bit about our ideas behind recording the solos. The overall key of the song was in B Minor, so that gave me a basis which I stuck with. The only time I broke outside of the B Minor scale was when I played a flattened 5th (also known as diminished 5th, augemented 3rd, tritone) at 4:22 just before Marek's solo. I thought it was a real 'Marty Friedman' moment At 4:12 I outlined an A Major arpeggio which corresponded with the A5 chord underneath. All the notes were still within the B Minor scale but it's the way the notes are put together that suggests a particular chord tonality. There are places where I pop up in the corner and harmonize with Zen, K1R and Gitarrero. At 0:35 I harmonize with Zen by playing an octave above. I do the same with K1R at 2:24. From 4:01 - 4:04 I use octaves again to harmonize with Gitarrero before switching to 3rds for 4:05-4:09. I mainly just went with my instinct for this collab. I didn't plan anything out. I just made small adjustments in certain places to land on strong notes and I tried hard to stay melodic. So, that's my story... what was your approach/strategy to soloing over this backing track ? You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My Lessons My Youtube Channel My Band

The Uncreator View Member Profile	Jul 22 2011, 10:48 AM
Jul 22 2011, 10:48 AM	Fire Up The Blades, Moderator Posts: 8.933 Joined: 6-March 07 From: St. Petersburg, Florida	I kinda just went with it, the backing track offered a great vibe for improv so I just played over it for like two hours, messing around. I think the take I did was like the 3rd or 4th take (recording) and I just kept it. The only thing I went back and added was the harmony. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

Ben Higgins View Member Profile	Jul 22 2011, 11:13 AM
Jul 22 2011, 11:13 AM	Instructor Posts: 13.792 Joined: 11-March 10 From: England	QUOTE (The Uncreator @ Jul 22 2011, 10:48 AM) I kinda just went with it, the backing track offered a great vibe for improv so I just played over it for like two hours, messing around. I think the take I did was like the 3rd or 4th take (recording) and I just kept it. The only thing I went back and added was the harmony. Cool.. yeah I've heard that a lot of people found it good for jamming over. Did you think much about scales or did you just go with your ear ? You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My Lessons My Youtube Channel My Band

zen View Member Profile	Jul 22 2011, 03:02 PM
Jul 22 2011, 03:02 PM	Learning Tone Seeker Posts: 1.138 Joined: 26-January 08 From: Melbourne, Australia	Good mix Ben. Enjoyed watching this. QUOTE (Ben Higgins @ Jul 22 2011, 07:05 PM) what was your approach/strategy to soloing over this backing track ? Approach was simple. I played what felt right to my ears. Tried to connect with the listener by establishing a main theme. And also tried not to clutter the take with every technique I know. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! This post has been edited by zen: Jul 22 2011, 03:09 PM -------------------- "If the need is deep, you WILL find a way , if it isn't, you'll find some excuse" Check out my Student Instructor Lesson on Metal Riffing HERE Visit My Youtube Channel

Ben Higgins View Member Profile	Jul 22 2011, 03:31 PM
Jul 22 2011, 03:31 PM	Instructor Posts: 13.792 Joined: 11-March 10 From: England	QUOTE (zen @ Jul 22 2011, 03:02 PM) Approach was simple. I played what felt right to my ears. Tried to connect with the listener by establishing a main theme. And also tried not to clutter the take with every technique I know. 3 Very good and very important points right there ! If we approached every solo we ever play with just these 3 points in mind we will have a greater chance of excellent results You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My Lessons My Youtube Channel My Band

Todd Simpson View Member Profile	Jul 22 2011, 04:11 PM
Jul 22 2011, 04:11 PM	GMC:er Posts: 25.297 Joined: 23-December 09 From: Atlanta, Georgia, USA	I sorta went Verse/Chorus/Verse on it. It's two structured solos separated by a harmony/melody chorus type bit in the middle. I used several open string licks which we worked on in VIDEO CHAT LESSON 64 which will be in the Wiki soon. The link to all the vid chat lessons in the Wiki is http://bit.ly/twtgmc Special thanks to fran for taking my crazy long lesson thread and making it legible I used Guitar Rig for all the sounds and last solo was a patch that sounded a bit like a guitar synth but that didn't end up in the final collab vid. Here is a link to the full solo on youtube for reference. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVr4qAn5xv0...nel_video_title The rest was just shredding in B Minor. I just felt my way through it really which sounds odd as "Feeling your way through it" is often associated with much slower/melodic playing. But when I'm playing "at speed" I'm not really thinking anymore, it's just happening. Going back and figuring out what I was playing to break it down in to a lesson is usually quite a bit work. Congrats to Ben for a Killer collab and Horns High to everyone who particpated! Well done guys! Todd You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- EVERY QUICK LICK! http://bit.ly/quicklickswithtodd MY INSTRUCTOR FORUM MY SHRED JOURNEY (BOOTCAMP) LESSON NOTES/TABS MY INSTRUCTOR PROFILE @ GMC ME @ YOUTUBE.com ME @ Instagram.com ME @ TWITTER

Mudbone View Member Profile	Jul 22 2011, 04:14 PM
Jul 22 2011, 04:14 PM	Learning Apprentice Player Posts: 1.750 Joined: 6-May 10 From: Charlotte, NC (residence)/Boston, MA (home) USA	Not to diminish everyone elses contributions, but I still can't get over how MONSTROUS Todd's solo was, it would've been nice if you left all of it intact Edit: doube post. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! This post has been edited by Mudbone: Jul 22 2011, 04:14 PM -------------------- He who laughs last thinks slowest. "That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence." - Christopher Hitchens Gear: Guitars: Uncle Rufus' Twanger Classic Amps: Mississippi Boom Box Mojo: Hammer of Odin and a pair of Ox gonads Inspiration: Samuel Adams Boston Lager Zero to Hero: 1,387/10,000

K1R View Member Profile	Jul 22 2011, 04:16 PM
Jul 22 2011, 04:16 PM	Learning Rock Star Posts: 460 Joined: 10-August 10 From: Riga, Latvia	I just improvised over the backing for few hours After an hour of playing I determined to land on the A note, because I could not come up with any idea when I was landing on the B. The backing was quite challenging and I'm not really satisfied with my take, but you made it sound cool in the mix You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Guitar Altamira M01D, Samick Royale 3, Musima Lead Star 1 Effects Boss ME-25 Amp Stagg 40 GA DSP DAW SONAR LE YouTube \| Facebook \| Last.fm “One day you pick up the guitar and you feel like a great master, and the next day you feel like a fool. It’s because we’re different every day, but the guitar is always the same…beautiful.” ~ Tommy Emmanuel ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "You have a whole collection of musical ideas and thoughts that you’ve accumulated through your musical history plus all the musical history of the whole world and it’s all in your subconscious and you draw upon it when you play” ~ Joe Pass

Gitarrero View Member Profile	Jul 22 2011, 05:43 PM
Jul 22 2011, 05:43 PM	Accomplished Rock Star Posts: 4.059 Joined: 24-June 08 From: Rottweil, Germany	Everything has been said xD I looked at the scales I could use and started improvising. After jamming around for an hour or so I tried the open string licks, and the natural harmonics was a spontaneous idea when I recorded it. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Check my band project with fellow GMCer VilleFIN Facebook Youtube Soundcloud Twitter Instagram

TylerT View Member Profile	Jul 22 2011, 06:34 PM
Jul 22 2011, 06:34 PM	Guitar Hero Posts: 295 Joined: 24-September 07 From: Canada	I just played what happened to pop in my brain at the time Most of it involved straight forward pentatonic with some 16th triplet runs as well as a couple "odd" notes from phrygian dominant! You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My Website My Youtube Main Guitars: - Agile Interceptor Pro 725 - EBMM John Petrucci Signature - Axl Badwater Amps/Effects: - Avid Eleven Rack - Hughes & Kettner Switchblade - Pod X3 Live

thefireball View Member Profile	Jul 22 2011, 06:53 PM
Jul 22 2011, 06:53 PM	Learning Roadie Posts: 4.537 Joined: 9-March 10 From: United States, Arkansas	I basically just went crazy and did whatever. That was like my 30th take or something. I need to stop doing that and go with one of the first takes. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- YouTube - A Place For Melodic Guitarists Instagram - Behind the Music Analyzed Within - My Christian Metal Band

Ben Higgins View Member Profile	Jul 22 2011, 07:23 PM
Jul 22 2011, 07:23 PM	Instructor Posts: 13.792 Joined: 11-March 10 From: England	QUOTE (TylerT @ Jul 22 2011, 06:34 PM) I just played what happened to pop in my brain at the time Most of it involved straight forward pentatonic with some 16th triplet runs as well as a couple "odd" notes from phrygian dominant! Your solo has been going around in my head for days, dammit !!!! QUOTE (Mudbone @ Jul 22 2011, 04:14 PM) Not to diminish everyone elses contributions, but I still can't get over how MONSTROUS Todd's solo was, it would've been nice if you left all of it intact Yes, to be honest it could have been so easy to just stick Todd's whole solo in there !! But I had to be conscious of keeping the overall length down (after all, the backing is the same thing on loop for over 4 mins ) plus it's always good to leave people wanting more ! QUOTE (thefireball @ Jul 22 2011, 06:53 PM) I basically just went crazy and did whatever. That was like my 30th take or something. I need to stop doing that and go with one of the first takes. You came up with some real gems though ! QUOTE (K1R @ Jul 22 2011, 04:16 PM) I just improvised over the backing for few hours After an hour of playing I determined to land on the A note, because I could not come up with any idea when I was landing on the B. The backing was quite challenging and I'm not really satisfied with my take, but you made it sound cool in the mix I think you did a great job, if you can handle this backing you can handle any backing ! QUOTE (Gitarrero @ Jul 22 2011, 05:43 PM) Everything has been said xD I looked at the scales I could use and started improvising. After jamming around for an hour or so I tried the open string licks, and the natural harmonics was a spontaneous idea when I recorded it. Yes, the open harmonics worked really good with the preceding lick. It's funny how it gets to a certain part of the video and there's loads of various open strings licks from you, Marek & Todd ! You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My Lessons My Youtube Channel My Band

Gitarrero View Member Profile	Jul 22 2011, 08:24 PM
Jul 22 2011, 08:24 PM	Accomplished Rock Star Posts: 4.059 Joined: 24-June 08 From: Rottweil, Germany	QUOTE (Ben Higgins @ Jul 22 2011, 08:23 PM) Yes, the open harmonics worked really good with the preceding lick. It's funny how it gets to a certain part of the video and there's loads of various open strings licks from you, Marek & Todd ! Are you saying we are copying each other? How could we have known what everybody else would play? We live in 3 different countries! How could we have talked about what to play? Through some sort of video chat? Possibly saturday evening? Come on...that's just science fiction. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Check my band project with fellow GMCer VilleFIN Facebook Youtube Soundcloud Twitter Instagram

playaxeman View Member Profile	Jul 22 2011, 08:25 PM
Jul 22 2011, 08:25 PM	Learning Rock Star Posts: 1.456 Joined: 16-October 08 From: The Netherlands	Like too congrats everyone who joined with this great vid: great job guys You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Gear: Guitars Music Man Luke BFR , Music Man JP LTD 2008, Paul Reed Smith Santana III, Gibson Les Paul, Ovation Adamas, Ovation Ultra Amps Hughes & Kettner Switchblade 50 combo Effects Korg Pandora PX5D, Line 6 Pod XT Live Recording Guitar Rig 5, Logitech QuickCam Pro 9000, Magix MusicMaker2008 Visit My Website

Ben Higgins View Member Profile	Jul 22 2011, 08:30 PM
Jul 22 2011, 08:30 PM	Instructor Posts: 13.792 Joined: 11-March 10 From: England	QUOTE (Gitarrero @ Jul 22 2011, 08:24 PM) Are you saying we are copying each other? How could we have known what everybody else would play? We live in 3 different countries! How could we have talked about what to play? Through some sort of video chat? Possibly saturday evening? Come on...that's just science fiction. Hey I didn't even suspect that until now.. you've just dropped yourself in it. I now know about the conspiracy of open string licks ! You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My Lessons My Youtube Channel My Band

Gitarrero View Member Profile	Jul 22 2011, 08:47 PM
Jul 22 2011, 08:47 PM	Accomplished Rock Star Posts: 4.059 Joined: 24-June 08 From: Rottweil, Germany	Dammit! You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Check my band project with fellow GMCer VilleFIN Facebook Youtube Soundcloud Twitter Instagram

Todd Simpson View Member Profile	Jul 22 2011, 09:04 PM
Jul 22 2011, 09:04 PM	GMC:er Posts: 25.297 Joined: 23-December 09 From: Atlanta, Georgia, USA	QUOTE (Mudbone @ Jul 22 2011, 11:14 AM) Not to diminish everyone elses contributions, but I still can't get over how MONSTROUS Todd's solo was, it would've been nice if you left all of it intact Edit: doube post. That's very kind of you Mudbone It's honestly one of my fav solo's that I've ever written. I"m sure Ben cut it up make it fit with the overall vibe of the song so well done there! It really is a killer Collab! For any of those who may have missed my post of my full take (It's well over a minute long just by itself) Here it is again. Enjoy! P.S. We are going to do some more of these licks this weekend by request! Todd You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- EVERY QUICK LICK! http://bit.ly/quicklickswithtodd MY INSTRUCTOR FORUM MY SHRED JOURNEY (BOOTCAMP) LESSON NOTES/TABS MY INSTRUCTOR PROFILE @ GMC ME @ YOUTUBE.com ME @ Instagram.com ME @ TWITTER

Cosmin Lupu View Member Profile	Jul 22 2011, 09:59 PM
Jul 22 2011, 09:59 PM	Instructor Posts: 22.808 Joined: 14-June 10 From: Bucharest	Thanx guys! And also, congratz to everyone and Ben for pulling this grand collab together! For my take, I like Tyler's approach - I just heard the melodies instantly and tried to put a lot of nerve in them. I usually interpret what I hear in my head in respect to the state of mind given by the backing track so that's what came out You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My lessons We can work on YOUR GUITAR and MUSIC development TOGETHER. Write me a private message if you wish to! Please subscribe to my Youtube Channel Days Of Confusion Facebook Page Mozart Rocks My facebook page

JamesT View Member Profile	Jul 23 2011, 02:01 AM
Jul 23 2011, 02:01 AM	Accomplished Tone Master Posts: 757 Joined: 12-April 08 From: USA, NV	This turned out really cool. Great work guys! And Ben, the mix is awesome. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Check out my YouTube Channel

HungryForHeaven View Member Profile	Jul 25 2011, 12:40 PM
Jul 25 2011, 12:40 PM	Learning Tone Master Posts: 861 Joined: 31-December 10 From: Sweden	First of all, congratulations to Ben and to all of you people who contributed! The final result is incredible, and we can see some amazing composition and playing in this video. I've been on the road for a few days, and first tried to look at the video in my phone while waiting to drive on board a ferry in Puttgarden. The connection was kind of bad, though, and I could not load the entire video. Now I'm back home and able to watch the full-size version of all the awesomeness! For my own part(s), I first jammed up a melody for the "slow" section, then I figured I should try to come up with a cool legato lick as a bridge from the first section, so I used some three note per string pentatonic stuff from Ben's video chats. Then, mainly for completeness, I composed something for the beginning as well. This has been a lot of fun - my first, but certainly not my last, participation in a GMC Collaboration. H4H You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

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