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Mike RR24
post Jul 24 2011, 02:30 AM
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I'm wondering how many of you guy's are using a MAC for your music related programs.

I use my MacBook Pro for Garage Band and also a program called CAPO for slowing down solo's without losing pitch.

I'm just curious... anyone else out there use any kind of Mac software for recording etc?



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post Jul 24 2011, 03:03 AM
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QUOTE (Mike RR24 @ Jul 23 2011, 09:30 PM) *
I'm wondering how many of you guy's are using a MAC for your music related programs.

I use my MacBook Pro for Garage Band and also a program called CAPO for slowing down solo's without losing pitch.

I'm just curious... anyone else out there use any kind of Mac software for recording etc?


I am smile.gif I'm in the States and Mac computers are quite common in Studios of every type here. Also, musicians, video guys, web guys, here tend to have at least one Mac. Not sure why, just been my experience. PC's are used quite a bit here but every studio in town I"ve been in had Pro-Tools running on a Mac. Sometimes even an old Mac.

My FAV application on the Mac is LOGIC 9. Killer DAW. But Garage Band is also cool for quick and dirty recording. Like a modern four track just great for getting ideas down. Also, FINAL CUT PRO is the best video software I"ve ever touched. Well, I should say it was the best. I"m not sold on FCP X.

Since I started teaching here though I"ve been using REAPER which is cross platform so that other folks can open my project files and I"m more and more impressed with REAPER the more I use it. I"ve all but stopped using LOGIC and GARAGE BAND recently as I have been writing stuff with the plan of sharing it here during lessons. REAPER is free to download so go get it!

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post Jul 24 2011, 04:52 AM
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QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Jul 24 2011, 02:03 AM) *
I am smile.gif I'm in the States and Mac computers are quite common in Studios of every type here. Also, musicians, video guys, web guys, here tend to have at least one Mac. Not sure why, just been my experience. PC's are used quite a bit here but every studio in town I"ve been in had Pro-Tools running on a Mac. Sometimes even an old Mac.

My FAV application on the Mac is LOGIC 9. Killer DAW. But Garage Band is also cool for quick and dirty recording. Like a modern four track just great for getting ideas down. Also, FINAL CUT PRO is the best video software I"ve ever touched. Well, I should say it was the best. I"m not sold on FCP X.

Since I started teaching here though I"ve been using REAPER which is cross platform so that other folks can open my project files and I"m more and more impressed with REAPER the more I use it. I"ve all but stopped using LOGIC and GARAGE BAND recently as I have been writing stuff with the plan of sharing it here during lessons. REAPER is free to download so go get it!

Todd



Actually I just downloaded Reaper tonigh. Have not checked it out yet. Garage band just does not sound that great to me.
I worked on computers/networks for over 15+ years and I know for me, I always used PC's but when Mac changed their operating system to UNIX I jumped on the band wagon as I always worked on UNIX in the distant past. I'll let you know how reaper turned out. It looked quite complex from the screen shot. Thanks Todd. Have a great evening. I wish the weekends were longer.


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post Jul 24 2011, 05:01 PM
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I use Cubase software on my PC but there is a version for Mac too. It is a very good DAW.
A lot of people use Mac's for video/audio work. I guess it's just a bit more stable platform/hardware and that is very important when doing something professionally. I hope I'll be able to get my hands on some Apple hardware in the future smile.gif


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I use Cubase on my Mac as well.
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I use Pro Tools 9. Use quicktime 7 to play/slow things down to transcribe/practice slowly. smile.gif


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i use logic pro 9 on my macbook pro, and i LOVE it.


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QUOTE (Mike RR24 @ Jul 23 2011, 11:52 PM) *
Actually I just downloaded Reaper tonigh. Have not checked it out yet. Garage band just does not sound that great to me.
I worked on computers/networks for over 15+ years and I know for me, I always used PC's but when Mac changed their operating system to UNIX I jumped on the band wagon as I always worked on UNIX in the distant past. I'll let you know how reaper turned out. It looked quite complex from the screen shot. Thanks Todd. Have a great evening. I wish the weekends were longer.


A LOT depends on how you are listening to it. Avoid, at all costs, the "On Board" audio of pretty much any Mac, you are probably going to be dissapointed no matter what software you use. Also, don't make the mistake of trying to use Ear Buds for Tracking/Mixing. They just can't be trusted for anything but casual listening. They were never designed for real work.

To get a good idea of the sound quality of Garage Band, just pull up the "Magic Garage Band" inteface and build a quick song using the built in previews. It's a great way to build quick and dirty backing tracks btw. Nothing Metal, but loads of other stuff.
Give it a shot smile.gif Then play it back through your audio interface and a decent pair of studio monitors/headphones if possible.\

I"ve got a thread about this very topic. Sorting out your audio interface is crucial and so is finding good speakers.

https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_fo...showtopic=35615

With a good external sound interface (I"m using a Tascam M164UF) Garage Band sounds Great. As does Reaper. APPLE LOGIC sounds better than both IMHO as it's an honest to goodness Pro Level piece of kit. But it only runs on Macs so that's a real limiting factor for me. Still love it though smile.gif





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Pc based mainly as our daw -sadie - is pc. Daw is finiky enough that not onnly are we pc based but we run on 32 bit as our daw has to fully integrate into our Plextor CD writer and that isn't possible on 64 at the moment and that includes trying to run 32 wihin a 64 host.

One of the joys of mastering is that two of the full blown mastering daws - sadie and pyro - are 32 bit pc and will not run on 64 or on apple. There are a couple of mastering daws for apple (Soundlblade etc) but I've spent years learning ours and choice of computer platform isn't a deciding issue here - for us it's workflow and integration so we stay on a 32 bit pc smile.gif .

BTW Mike and Todd - there has been a lot of talk over the years about whether or not a specific daw sounds better than another. Some argue that all sound the same ultimately and any perceived difference is psychological. Against this however if you anaylse the audio from individual daws and look at things like quantisation noise, alias and interpolation then there are differences between the different daws' audio engines. Much of this is about pre and post ring, very high frequency foldback and so on and I doubt very much that these would be really an issue, or audible, for a home/project studio. Quite simply I'd argue that yes there are differences but to really hear them you would need an acoustically treated room and a professional quality monitoring chain.

It's kind of like sample rate - lots of manufacturers market their vst stuff because it can run at greater than 96kHz despite the fact that at the moment there is no advantage at all in doing so. Some of what the marketing departments claim is definately odd and they don't always seem to understand how sampling and sample rate actually work.

In fact running at 192kHz can actually cause issues - something that has been demonstrated by engineers like D Lavry, Dan Weiss and Paul Frindle. Lots of people nonetheless still argue that they can hear more top end clarity on 192 even though their monitoring chain just isn't capable of it wink.gif . To an extent there is little advantage of using 96 rather than 44.1 or 48 - yes you've upsampled and moved the Nyquist but at the cost of more complicated computation and having to pass far more dat through a channel that may alreayd be at it's limit at 48. Even using 96 and thus having the Nyquist at 48 all that you might actually have achieved is to have moved foldback to a point where it's dropped through the noise floor by the time any occurrs below 20kHz. Thing is most audio systems aren't good enough to detect foldback even at 44.1 and Nyquist of 22kHz as what there is has alreadyattenuated down below -93dB.

Again there are similar arguments put about concerning 32 bit float, 64 bit and 24 fixed engines.



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