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Gabriel Leopardi
post Jul 26 2011, 07:06 AM
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Hey guys! Let me know if you agree but from my experience one of the best ways to understand a guitarists style is learning from their influences... when I was studying John Petrucci Style, I understood it better after hearing and learning some stuff from Steve Morse, Rush and David Gilmour (as well as some Joe Satriani, Steve Vai and Gilbert). The same happened when I was studying Yngwie Malmsteen style.. I learn some Nicolo Paganini stuff, as well as some Richie Blackmore solos. I think that if you want to incorporate some Kiko Loureiro style in your playing you must check some Gilbert, Petrucci, Satriani, Malmsteen, Kotzen and brazilian music.

I think that this formula could be also applied to bands.. what do you think?


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post Jul 26 2011, 07:40 AM
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Yes, I think this is a vary valid point, Gabriel.. in learning some of Marty Friedman's licks I was able to identify these trademarks in earlier players like Michael Schenker & Uli Jon Roth. By discovering and appreciating other players you open up more possibilities of learning.

I think it's also like a personal journey when you go back and trace the evolution of a subject, whether it is music, art, film etc.. each person gets something different out of it and when you have all the 'evidence' you can form your own picture based on what you've learnt smile.gif


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post Jul 26 2011, 07:45 AM
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QUOTE (Ben Higgins @ Jul 26 2011, 03:40 AM) *
Yes, I think this is a vary valid point, Gabriel.. in learning some of Marty Friedman's licks I was able to identify these trademarks in earlier players like Michael Schenker & Uli Jon Roth. By discovering and appreciating other players you open up more possibilities of learning.

I think it's also like a personal journey when you go back and trace the evolution of a subject, whether it is music, art, film etc.. each person gets something different out of it and when you have all the 'evidence' you can form your own picture based on what you've learnt smile.gif


Exactly! I know that I'm a bit obsessive sometimes laugh.gif but as you said it's a personal journey and I really enjoy the process. smile.gif


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post Jul 26 2011, 08:52 AM
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I admire and respect peoples talent and gifts (natural and learnt), I love and learn from guitarist like Slash, Paul Gilbert, Joe Satriani, Steve Vai, Kirk Hammett, Zakk Wylde, Yngwie Malmsteen, the instructor's and member's here at GMC, etc. I've been focusing on Paul Gilbert's picking technique lately.

However, I don't actually consider anyone an Idol.

I think it's best to learn from but become your own style of player and music, rather than a clone. I've still got a long way before I can do that, but it's my next step.

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post Jul 26 2011, 09:46 AM
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QUOTE (Azzaboi @ Jul 26 2011, 07:52 AM) *
I admire and respect peoples talent and gifts (natural and learnt), I love and learn from guitarist like Slash, Paul Gilbert, Joe Satriani, Steve Vai, Kirk Hammett, Zakk Wylde, Yngwie Malmsteen, the instructor's and member's here at GMC, etc. I've been focusing on Paul Gilbert's picking technique lately.

However, I don't actually consider anyone an Idol.

I think it's best to learn from but become your own style of player and music, rather than a clone. I've still got a long way before I can do that, but it's my next step.


hey Aaron smile.gif I can't agree more! You share my perspective over things smile.gif

I had a time when I realized that I was so much into Vai's stuff that I totally forgot about who I was ... well, right now I don't have any idol at all - I just try to get the best out of what I can do and sound as personal as possible.

As Ben said biggrin.gif the personal journey takes us through different stages and some realize, some don't, that our uniqueness is that thing that should be exploited to the maximum! We won't be able to get anywhere by trying to mimic what others already created out of sheer personal flow and inspiration, just because we are simply different.

For me, a good idol from a certain point of view, would be my dad, because he always inspired me to be able to see that ray of light even among the darkest clouds smile.gif corny/ not corny...that's the way I feel smile.gif


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post Jul 26 2011, 09:57 AM
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QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Jul 26 2011, 09:46 AM) *
our uniqueness is that thing that should be exploited to the maximum!


That's just it ! That's the phrase that underlines exactly what I try to describe when I say we should observe our strengths and build on them to find our sound - thank you ! biggrin.gif


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QUOTE (Ben Higgins @ Jul 26 2011, 08:57 AM) *
That's just it ! That's the phrase that underlines exactly what I try to describe when I say we should observe our strengths and build on them to find our sound - thank you ! biggrin.gif


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post Jul 26 2011, 03:41 PM
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Yeah guys, I agree with you about uniqueness! smile.gif However I think when we are beginners we need to incoporate other guitarist's licks or style of playing to allow us with time develope ours. And one thing that happens to me is that having an idol doesn't mean that I will copy him or compose similar music, unless I'm composing an "in the style of lesson..." laugh.gif


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post Jul 26 2011, 04:12 PM
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thats right, i was obsessed with stevie ray vaughan when i was a bit younger, then i realized i have to learn hendrix, bb king, albert king and some others first in order to fully understand stevie.

and it worked... well partially.. does anybody understand stevie biggrin.gif?


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post Jul 27 2011, 04:18 PM
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QUOTE (Adrian Figallo @ Jul 26 2011, 12:12 PM) *
thats right, i was obsessed with stevie ray vaughan when i was a bit younger, then i realized i have to learn hendrix, bb king, albert king and some others first in order to fully understand stevie.

and it worked... well partially.. does anybody understand stevie biggrin.gif?


yeah, in some cases it's a must to learn some stuff from their influences.. you can't understand SRV without knowing Hendrix! smile.gif


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