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JaxN4
post Aug 3 2011, 03:31 AM
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Hello all, I recieved a new guitar today. A custom built Warmoth Strat....upon unpacking it i noticed a crack/stress fracture in the body...photo's below... mad.gif


What I want to know is, what sort of complications will arise from this over time? I assume the crack will only grow and get worse.
I have contacted the supplier and I am currently awaiting their response.....

Any advice on this would be great...Thanks

I should add...it's not just the paint that is cracked, the crack seems to be about .02 - .03 cm deep

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post Aug 3 2011, 04:00 AM
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It doesn't affect the playability or sound in anyway....


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post Aug 3 2011, 05:34 AM
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That's so bad! It doesn't affect to the sound now but with some time that crack will grow... it could take years but finally it will grow so I think that you must contact the seller and ask for another one. At the same time.. if you ever decide to sell it the price will be lowered because of it so once again... ask for another one!


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post Aug 3 2011, 05:37 AM
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QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Aug 3 2011, 04:34 AM) *
That's so bad! It doesn't affect to the sound now but with some time that crack will grow... it could take years but finally it will grow so I think that you must contact the seller and ask for another one. At the same time.. if you ever decide to sell it the price will be lowered because of it so once again... ask for another one!



Thanks alot...On it now

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post Aug 3 2011, 05:54 AM
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I am assuming you bought it new as there are bits of protective film visible. I am not knowledgeable in how the neck is mounted to the body with the Warmoth. With a reg strat the neck is held on with four bolts though the back of body into the neck. That neck seems to be bolted through the bottom.. must be going through a dovetail in the body and a tenon in the neck? (dovetail joint).

If the crack is though the paint and into the wood I would raise hell. There is stress in the area where the neck is mounted to the guitar and the crack is in a strange spot . It's possible someone either over torqed the neck mount or the mating surface(s) where the crack is have a high spot(s) that came into contact when the neck was tightened. If that were the case and the wood is involved I would venture to guess the crack will get worse over time.

Sucks that you get a new guitar and have to deal with hassle... bummer!

On the bright side.. I dig that neck.. looks like my Malmsteen smile.gif

EDIT: Just looked at the pics again. The edge of the neck cutout on the body looks rough.. not a smooth edge. Hard to tell with the shadows but it looks as though someone stuck something in between the neck and the body in an attempt to adjust or pry the the neck into position. That could definitely cause a crack. I would send her back.
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post Aug 3 2011, 05:57 AM
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QUOTE (Gary @ Aug 3 2011, 04:54 AM) *
I am assuming you bought it new as there are bits of protective film visible. I am not knowedable in how the neck is mounted to the body with the Warmoth. With a reg strat the neck is held on with four bolts though the back of body into the neck. That neck seems to be bolted through the bottom.. must be going through a dovetail in the body and a tenon in the neck? (dovetail joint).

If the crack is though the paint and into the wood I would raise hell. There is stress in the area where the neck is mounted to the guitar and the crack is in a strange spot . It's possible someone either over torqed the neck mount or the mating surface(s) where the crack is have a high spot(s) that came into contact when the neck was tightened. If that were the case and the wood is involved I would venture to guess the crack could get worse over time.

Sucks that you get a new guitar and have to deal with hassle... bummer!

On the bright side.. I dig that neck.. looks like my Malmsteen.

Cheers!
Gary



Hey mate, thanks for the reply. It is sooo depressing, the scalloped neck on it is awesome...Feels amazing, and perfect for my sliced up and scarred fingertips.
It does seem like the neck was overtightened and perhaps during shipping it has come away from the body and cause a crack...it's definatly into the wood...not just the paint. A refund i shall seek


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post Aug 3 2011, 07:04 AM
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I thought this was about your own body from the topic title... but this is much worst, your poor axe! Get it replaced or repaired asap.


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post Aug 3 2011, 07:10 AM
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QUOTE (Azzaboi @ Aug 3 2011, 06:04 AM) *
I thought this was about your own body from the topic title... but this is much worst, your poor axe! Get it replaced or repaired asap.



Haha...I am old, but not that old I am falling apart haha. What sort of repairs could be dont to this? A small gap has opened up between the neck and the body which has caused a small crack....

Can this actually be fixed?

QUOTE (JaxN4 @ Aug 3 2011, 06:07 AM) *
Haha...I am old, but not that old I am falling apart haha. What sort of repairs could be dont to this? A small gap has opened up between the neck and the body which has caused a small crack....

Can this actually be fixed?


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post Aug 3 2011, 07:18 AM
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I guess you have learned your lesson the hard way... same thing happened to me years ago and ever since, i never buy guitars online. accessories are ok to get them online but for the axe, i wanna check my baby first, hold and try it then buy it.

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post Aug 3 2011, 08:36 AM
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I got your email about but it looks like you've already gotten some good feedback. Bottom line is you need to try to get your money back if at all possible. Don't trust for a second that the scratch is only skin deep until you take the neck off and have a look. My guess is the neck was "shimmed" at the vendor and then a bench tech over tightened it.

You'll have to take it entirely apart to actually see what the damage is. Has he stripped the screw? Cracked the neck joyce from the inside? etc. Best case scenario it's just the surface, but even then it's like a windshield crack. A bomb waiting to go off. This is just plain wrong and I expect more from Warmoth. I'd give them a serious piece of your mind and demand some sort of consideration for emotional distress! Those guitars are not cheap.


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post Aug 3 2011, 08:46 AM
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QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Aug 3 2011, 07:36 AM) *
I got your email about but it looks like you've already gotten some good feedback. Bottom line is you need to try to get your money back if at all possible. Don't trust for a second that the scratch is only skin deep until you take the neck off and have a look. My guess is the neck was "shimmed" at the vendor and then a bench tech over tightened it.

You'll have to take it entirely apart to actually see what the damage is. Has he stripped the screw? Cracked the neck joyce from the inside? etc. Best case scenario it's just the surface, but even then it's like a windshield crack. A bomb waiting to go off. This is just plain wrong and I expect more from Warmoth. I'd give them a serious piece of your mind and demand some sort of consideration for emotional distress! Those guitars are not cheap.



Thanks alot mate, good advice. I am currently givin em hell and getting ma money back. Thanks alot


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post Aug 3 2011, 11:20 AM
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Yes definitely get the money back, and give em hell. The crack lowers down value of the guitar, and can potentially get bigger under pressure/use.


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post Aug 3 2011, 03:01 PM
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QUOTE (JadGh @ Aug 3 2011, 07:18 AM) *
I guess you have learned your lesson the hard way... same thing happened to me years ago and ever since, i never buy guitars online. accessories are ok to get them online but for the axe, i wanna check my baby first, hold and try it then buy it.

Good luck!

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QUOTE (JaxN4 @ Aug 3 2011, 01:37 AM) *
Thanks alot...On it now

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post Aug 3 2011, 03:29 PM
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QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Aug 3 2011, 02:27 PM) *
no problem man! I wish you best of lucks with this! smile.gif



Cheers! There is no way it can be fixed...the problem will be there no matter what they do to try n fix it....
i'll get a refund and shop locally next time....Bummer though..

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post Aug 3 2011, 09:05 PM
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Yeah, I thought this was about your own body too. haha..but that's too bad about what happened. I got lucky with my getting my Jackson online and it not damaged. But I don't want to do that anymore. I'm sure a store can get whatever you want so long as they carry that company's products.


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ohhhh, that's bad, but the guitar looks astonishing, i would get another one to be honest.


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QUOTE (Adrian Figallo @ Aug 4 2011, 12:14 AM) *
ohhhh, that's bad, but the guitar looks astonishing, i would get another one to be honest.



Oh I know...so upset....the guitar is beautiful...besides the obvious. Can it be fixed you think?


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I'd ask for another one just like that in return wink.gif no refund, but another guitar, until you're satisfied with it biggrin.gif


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QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Aug 4 2011, 10:23 AM) *
I'd ask for another one just like that in return wink.gif no refund, but another guitar, until you're satisfied with it biggrin.gif



Yea mate that's exactly what I organised today...I got another one, exactly the same on the way... biggrin.gif


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