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post Aug 25 2011, 12:26 PM
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Wow, nice smile.gif

I just found great pictures of upgraded Canons for filming purposes, check it out. Looks intimidating smile.gif




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How did I miss this thread? Great explanations in here, I should take part of it into our wiki cool.gif



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Bravo Ivan , that's gonna be a next theme for this topic: DSLR gadgets !!!


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The good news for folks like IVAN and even ME is that DSLR video revolutionizing how the major vendors see their product lines. Already in production are the next generation of HD Camcorders that will incorporate many DSLR features (shallow depth of field, massive CMOS chip, great resolution/color/contrast etc.)

If you are interested in making Short Film/Documentaries, getting a DSLR is a great idea. It looks very "Filmic" and for the price, no HDcam can touch it's quality. There are issues of course, frame rates, codec limitations, having to run Dual system audio, lack of XLR jacks etc. But we are in a bit transitionary period just now. The end result will be better IMHO for everyone.



Sony has already Released their Firs Salvo in the HDcam meets DSLR trend smile.gif

Here is a link. This HDcam uses the same sensor as their high end DSLR cameras. It costs about 2k.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/201036/sony...slr_brains.html

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As for my current setup, I"ve been using a SONY HC-7 for quite a while for recording lessons/video chats. It outputs HDMI and Firewire so you can capture it directly with just a laptop via firewire or you can capture HDMI to a capture card. It's been very solid and stable but I'd suggest getting a newer model that does not write to tape as tape is a bit of a dead issue. I keep thinking this camera will just stop working but it's just unbreakable!
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Especially since you can get an updated SONY HD CAM for about $350 US!

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I'm really not that interested in amateur film making, just liking this discussion because it's technology related, and it just happens that I am introduced in the field, so we can create some sparks on the topic smile.gif

I can use Nikon D300s for trying to create a film look, it's not a bad cam, and can enable me very nice depth of field effect, good colors, wide geometry.. It's just that I don't need it for what I do. For purposes of home videos and home filming, HDC-SD60 does a very fine job at a fraction of a cost. So the means - justify the cost.

NEX-VG10 is one of the first steps towards combining both technologies. Sony is just feeling the market with this one, but more will come in the future. It seems that the two technologies are bonding after all, and the big manufacturer confirms it. They are experimenting on their own customers first. It's an Alpha DSLR technology in a HD cam package prototype, removing some limitations like video length limit, better grip, mic.. Initial tests show that cam doesn't have that great quality in low-light conditions - for a 2K body and 1 lens. Also, from the specs you can see that it only records 1080i @60/50fps (US/EU fps).

I still don't agree that DSLR cameras are better than HD camcorders in the same price range. Each has it's own qualities. But, the opposites of opinions is what we need on this topic in order to generate some cool information material, which is what I like biggrin.gif


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I am glad that this discussion just gets on the swing biggrin.gif !
Of course, it's not the purpose here to argue, but to look at the facts so that someone can get some valuable conclusions, and decide on possible purchase of any recording device...

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One more thing: I would like to limit the story in a entry level cams, price range let's say- to a maximum of 1k - 1,3k $, because it is a tolerable price IMO and everything more than that goes into semi-professional and Pro products! I mean, I love my new toy, but I'm not so enthusiast (crazy) to give 5k $ for a Canon EOS 1D Mark IV, for example !!!

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Some explaining of the shallow depth of field is needed on this topic as I see it.. I can possibly make a test video on my little Panasonic HD cam. It's capable of creating such effect, although it cannot match the lenses on DSLRs. But let's see what results I can achieve just with the entry level HD camcorder.


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QUOTE (Ivan Milenkovic @ Aug 26 2011, 03:17 PM) *
Some explaining of the shallow depth of field is needed on this topic as I see it.. I can possibly make a test video on my little Panasonic HD cam. It's capable of creating such effect, although it cannot match the lenses on DSLRs. But let's see what results I can achieve just with the entry level HD camcorder.


Please do this, if you have spare time Ivan ! Although I still don't have proper lens for the shalow DOF (1.8 or 1.4) ,will try to upload something with 18-55mm lens.


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I'll try. The built in lens is 3-75mm, but it will be OK I guess smile.gif


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Great post Sinisa again smile.gif

One other plus with a DLSR or SLR s for me is that you can add convertor mounts and filters that allow you to 'change' your lens. For instance you can use a tele convertor mount, whcih essentially increases the focal length of the lens you use - again you need a fast lens for it work though. You can also do the opposite and use a telecompressor mount which can be used to change the f value to a smaller one and in a similar way you can add wide angle mounts that can change a standard lens in to a quasi macro. The mounts aren't as good IME as a dedicated, specialised lens but can act as a stop gap and arguably are better than extender rings.

The most important filter for me though is a UV filter. I have one on my lenses all the time when they're in use not just to cut down UV but also to help protect the lens.

BTW with batteries - you can also get battery packs that will allow you to have a second battery in place on the camera so you don't have to swop out.



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QUOTE (tonymiro @ Sep 5 2011, 04:02 PM) *
BTW with batteries - you can also get battery packs that will allow you to have a second battery in place on the camera so you don't have to swop out.


Great input Tony,thanks wink.gif

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Great articles Sinisa! smile.gif


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I might use some stuff from the tripod article for my video production blog smile.gif Very detailed stuff smile.gif


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QUOTE (Ivan Milenkovic @ Sep 11 2011, 09:51 PM) *
I might use some stuff from the tripod article for my video production blog smile.gif Very detailed stuff smile.gif


Of course comrade biggrin.gif !


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Bingo! I've used that sound recorder and it's killer smile.gif Records to SD card and will do 4 Tracks of Audio! Two XLR inputs and two on board mics. Just a killer unit. And only $300! US. Put that on your DSLR and BOOM Instant HD Cinema Style cam for a lot less than a RED or other spiff cam with HUGE sensor!


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That's what I'm talking about, but no one believes me! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif


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Update:
Yesterday I got Canon 50mm 1.8 lens, very cheap! Amazed with its sharpness!! This is a short video and Depth Of Field test !



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Wow, sweet looking blur smile.gif


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QUOTE (Ivan Milenkovic @ Sep 26 2011, 11:00 PM) *
Wow, sweet looking blur smile.gif


Which reminded me: now it's your turn !!! biggrin.gif


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Will do man, as soon as the month is over, I'm over my head atm sad.gif


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