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Todd Simpson
post Sep 10 2011, 03:48 AM
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I am comparing my beloved Guitar Rig 4 and my new Th2 Guitar Plugins so I took the "Auto Wah" lead patch from both and applied it to a bit of lead I recorded. Here are both. Let me know what you think?

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Attached File  plugin_shootout_wah_GR4.mp3 ( 3.32MB ) Number of downloads: 182


OVERLOUD TH2 Version

Attached File  plugin_shootout_wah_TH2.mp3 ( 3.32MB ) Number of downloads: 172


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post Sep 10 2011, 07:12 AM
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I would have to say Overloud TH2 licks butt! cool.gif Seems to have more balls for sure.
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post Sep 10 2011, 10:14 AM
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QUOTE (zoom @ Sep 10 2011, 02:12 AM) *
I would have to say Overloud TH2 licks butt! cool.gif Seems to have more balls for sure.


I'd have to agree smile.gif

QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Sep 9 2011, 10:48 PM) *
I am comparing my beloved Guitar Rig 4 and my new Th2 Guitar Plugins so I took the "Auto Wah" lead patch from both and applied it to a bit of lead I recorded. Here are both. Let me know what you think?

Guitar Rig Version

Attached File  plugin_shootout_wah_GR4.mp3 ( 3.32MB ) Number of downloads: 182


OVERLOUD TH2 Version

Attached File  plugin_shootout_wah_TH2.mp3 ( 3.32MB ) Number of downloads: 172


Just listened on another set of speakers and yup. The TH2 Just sounds better.


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post Sep 10 2011, 10:52 AM
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Hey... This would be a cool competition! If you post the recording of a clean recording of the guitar (maby one rhythm and one lead), and see who can make the best sound for it using any plugin available! Set a deadline and have a poll and let the madness begin:)

Should be interesting enough
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post Sep 10 2011, 11:35 AM
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QUOTE (Finny @ Sep 10 2011, 11:52 AM) *
Hey... This would be a cool competition! If you post the recording of a clean recording of the guitar (maby one rhythm and one lead), and see who can make the best sound for it using any plugin available! Set a deadline and have a poll and let the madness begin:)

Should be interesting enough

Great idea!! smile.gif
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post Sep 10 2011, 03:10 PM
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Good comparison, but I can notice that GR4 preset has less midrange, less presence, and mono reverb, while TH2 has stereo reverb with greater diffusion, which is more pronounced as well.


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post Sep 10 2011, 03:20 PM
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The overloud had abetter sounding wah, while the rig had a better tone( I thought ) which is probably just some E.Q. ing and different modeling
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post Sep 10 2011, 09:31 PM
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OVERLOUD TH2 Version wins! are you sure you didn't change the patch? it sounds quite different. Much better


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Damn, GR4 sounds too plastic !!


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post Sep 11 2011, 12:50 AM
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The GR4 I kinda of like better in some aspects, but the TH is more pronounced and had more stereo sound in my speakers. The TH had too much reverb for me, but I think it wins out.
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post Sep 11 2011, 02:01 AM
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QUOTE (Finny @ Sep 10 2011, 05:52 AM) *
Hey... This would be a cool competition! If you post the recording of a clean recording of the guitar (maby one rhythm and one lead), and see who can make the best sound for it using any plugin available! Set a deadline and have a poll and let the madness begin:)

Should be interesting enough


Great Idea! smile.gif Here is the clean track COMPETE! smile.gif Put any plugin you like on it. HUGE PROPS to anyone with the gumption to actually give it a shot. I'm rooting for someone to take the initiative and share some cool plugins.

Attached File  PLUGINSHOOTOUT_CLEAN.mp3 ( 3.21MB ) Number of downloads: 100




QUOTE (Ivan Milenkovic @ Sep 10 2011, 10:10 AM) *
Good comparison, but I can notice that GR4 preset has less midrange, less presence, and mono reverb, while TH2 has stereo reverb with greater diffusion, which is more pronounced as well.


That about covers it smile.gif All those things are sort of what makes the TH2 sound quite a bit better. But really I just wanted to throw out a couple of similar patches for overall "tone" judgement. That's what the post is about.


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post Sep 11 2011, 10:15 PM
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Here's a guitar rig 4 preset, and amplitube 3 I did for fun smile.gif
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Attached File  guitar_rig_4.mp3 ( 1.93MB ) Number of downloads: 72
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post Sep 12 2011, 12:32 AM
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QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Sep 10 2011, 12:48 PM) *
I am comparing my beloved Guitar Rig 4 and my new Th2 Guitar Plugins so I took the "Auto Wah" lead patch from both and applied it to a bit of lead I recorded. Here are both. Let me know what you think?


Going to have to be the sole voice of disagreement. The GR4 sounds more natural and organic. Yes, it has less "in-your-face" aspect than the TH2 but that can easily be fixed with a bit of EQ and a decent reverb.

The TH2 clip has horrible digital-sounding transients. I want to like it but I can't. It sounds like a cheap multi-FX.


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post Sep 12 2011, 01:20 AM
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I can't get into Overloud at all. For me It always sounds like there is transient clipping. The tones are naturally brighter but I find anything mixed with GR sits much better in a mix, and they lend themselves better to post editing. With the demo I had to adjust TH2 quite a bit from one patch the next, a bit inconsistent, and when I mastered it I always had to go back in the mix and lower the volume to an uncomfortable point because it was so pronounced in so many frequency ranges. I think I had a lowpass on TH2 starting at like 14K! as opposed to GR where it sits at about 18-20k usually.

Just my experiences though.
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QUOTE (The Uncreator @ Sep 11 2011, 08:20 PM) *
I can't get into Overloud at all. For me It always sounds like there is transient clipping. The tones are naturally brighter but I find anything mixed with GR sits much better in a mix, and they lend themselves better to post editing. With the demo I had to adjust TH2 quite a bit from one patch the next, a bit inconsistent, and when I mastered it I always had to go back in the mix and lower the volume to an uncomfortable point because it was so pronounced in so many frequency ranges. I think I had a lowpass on TH2 starting at like 14K! as opposed to GR where it sits at about 18-20k usually.

Just my experiences though.


Yup! You nailed it on the low end and presence with TH2 in a mix. The reason this usually happens is the

RESPIRE

button on the cabinet controls. If left on, the patch sounds huge by itself, but hogs up way to much audio spectrum and will not sit in a mix. Where as the GR4 patch, sits just fine in a mix. So the OVERLOUD stuff can be very handy for just a practice setup even with RESPIRE left on. If you plan on mixing with it, you can use the same patch, but you MUST turn off RESPIRE during mixdown or it just doesn't work well.
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I've been using OVERLOUD off and on for live video chat lessons and sharing presets with students. The rather extreme EQ settings on TH1 and TH2 make it bring out pick strikes quite nicely which is very handy when showing a picking workout. I've started using Guitar Rig 5 recently and it has some amazing tools. It's definately more flexible in terms of tone choice.



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